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shouldn’t have all this information, but -¶
: It helps us a lot. We appreciate it.¶
: Okay. Maybe, yeah. I don’t pass it out to you, know other companies, but stuff like this, I do find it useful, if it -. Hmm. Okay. I’ve got -. Hey. There is a camera outage. Oh. I’ve got a camera outage report.¶
: What is that?¶
: But I don’t -. That shows from 8/16. These are all looking at August 16th. Which could have been the time that I actually was on site.¶
: Okay.¶
: Yeah, we would be looking specifically 8/10, and prior.¶
: Okay. Let me see what I’ve got. Do I have screenshots? 8/16. 8/11.¶
Okay. Let me go back and see. Let me look at this report and see if it gives me, like, a date of when this was exported to, because that could be something, if you guys need it.¶
: Okay.¶
I don’t know if you guys have all that or not.¶
: We don’t have the . This is between SIGnet employees. Right?¶
This is an Excel document, but again, but I’ve got to see what date it shows on here. Because they kind of hide it in the columns. I’m trying to see if it has a date. This basically just a camera outage report. So, I don’t know if you guys need that. And if that, again, I don’t know if that was ran from him, and we got that.¶
But you said this was on the 16th?¶
That one shows that it was edited on the 17th, but it - like I said - in the outage report, I thought that they give you a date when it was actually exported from the system.¶
Okay.¶
So, I would have to look at the order. But yeah, let me go back to your original. You’re looking for the email traffic and everything. So, let me see if I can find that. Oh. Hmm. Oh, what’s that? Sorry. I’m looking through gigs and gigs of —¶
No problem.¶
— information here.¶
No. We appreciate it.¶
Thank you.¶
Oh, no problem. Hopefully, I can find something that helps a little more.¶
Okay. So, I’ve got -. All right. Let me see if I can look (Indiscernible *00:25:28) Outlook and see, if it will load. All right. So, files. Open. And export. Let’s do an import. Oh, import from another program or file. Oh, that is a ODF. Yup, right there. Let’s see. Allow duplicates to be created, replace to (Indiscernible *00:26:04) items. Imported. I have no idea. But I’ll screw my work email up. Crap.¶
No problem. Can I - while you’re doing it, while you take a look - can I ask you a question?¶
Yeah.¶
This is, in here, it states, “During the rebuild process of the drives, the drives were required to be taken out of raid, on DVR-2. Once the drives are removed without proper shutdown of the recorder, the video database becomes corrupted.” Is that your understanding of what happened, from your conversation with me?¶
I’m - so, yeah - I’m trying to figure out when that was happening, because I do know that, at some point, the FBI came there on site, I think prior to its showing up. And I want to say that the recorder was rebuilding, and they said that they had to take the equipment out. And that’s what I’m - That’s what I’m trying to piece together, if it was then that they took it out. Or if it was -. Yeah. Because I don’t, I don’t really make any sense of him putting them in and then pulling them out.¶
Okay.¶
Yeah, because I would think, once he puts them in, I mean, he would leave them to rebuild. And I think I would have probably made that comment, because he said something the FBI coming in, they need to confiscate the equipment. And then, and I’m pretty sure I told him, I said, well, you don’t want to, you don’t want to unplug those while it’s rebuilding because if it, you know,¶
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And my understanding is, when they left the MCC, they took the whole system with them.¶
Okay. Then that, I think that was when I actually showed up on site the following.¶
And then, you guys set up a new system for them, right?¶
Yes. Yeah. Because I know¶
Okay.¶
— I know that FBI met me there. Yeah. They showed up when I was kind of getting the new system set up. And then, they kind of jumped in and they were doing stuff, and asking me questions about a, you know, check to see where those video gaps and stuff like that. Okay. So, I’m starting to remember a little bit.¶
On the drives that you’re talking about, so I want to say that we actually suggested to him to pull all of the drives out, and try to rebuild, because I think that was our normal protocol. If, let’s say you had a bad drive, sometimes on those older Pro units, you can replace the drives, and they started to rebuild. During the rebuild process of the drives, the drives were required to be taken out of the raid on DVR-2. Once the drives are removed without proper shut down of the recorder, the video database becomes corrupted. Typically, any time the raid on a raid five configuration loses two drives, the raid needs to be rebuilt, and all data wiped from the raid. Does this - based on your comment - does it mean that - your understanding is - that he went in, tried to replace it, and he pulled the drive without the proper shut down of the recorder?¶
Wait, so, you don’t have to shut down the drive if - or, you don’t have to shut down the recorder if you’re pulling a drive out. Like, one drive. And it’s called a hot swappable (Phonetic Sp. *00:42:11) drive.¶
Yeah.¶
So, what that means basically, you can pull it out, re-inert it, and let it rebuild. But there is a limit how many you can do. Because you can’t just say, okay, I’ve got two bad drives. Lightbulb pull one out. As long as you don’t have, like, two failed drives, like I was saying on our range five.¶
Okay.¶
Because if you have two failed drives, you’re not going to do anything to fix it. But if you had one, you can pull one out, and refeed it, and it will give you a status on the front of that recorder, saying it’s attempting to rebuild. So, I’m starting to recall that we may have told him to pull one out.¶
Okay.¶
And let it rebuild.¶
That would be the same - That would be based on the instructions came over from a?¶
Yes. And so, I think what I’m recalling is, I think we had him pull one out, try to rebuild. That failed, I think. And then, I think he told the other - He may have pulled the second drive out, that was showing bad, and tried to rebuild that.¶
And then, your comment, your comments exactly on this is, “He attempted to go out. And try to re-insert them, let those build. Because once you do that, if there is a possibility of the one of the two being good, and it’s writing somewhat, you pull both out, you’re going to crash your system.¶
So, so, and those drives, when you rebuild them, it takes - I want to say it takes at least eight hours. So, I do remember him replacing one, and I want to say it was an overnight process. He pulled it out. Put it in. It looked like it started building. And I think he came in the next day, and it failed. I don’t know if he tried it again. Or he may have tried that second drive, then, at that point. Tried to pull that and let it rebuild. And that may have been the point where the FBI, maybe, come on site. And said, he, we’ve got to, you, know, confiscate it or whatever. I don’t know, at that point.¶
Yeah.¶
I don’t know.¶
And that’s what my question was. Is this all talking about his actions, or is it talking about both his actions, as well as the FBI actions of¶
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