TERSON FILTHY RICH nat’s it. In order to make money, there. You’re gonna take your do, is the more you make.” She 100. So she obviously and evire. Plus, on our way home, she : massage… and she basically let him, like, ally. h his hands? d then he brought out the mas- e. rhen you were approached to see ateen? e last time you talked to him? n honestly say it’s probably been it a year. I actually stopped workjrl you brought over? over was [redacted]… two hundred bucks for taking her knew… nassage him, and the more she did- 58 DOBBS: The more she’d make. RECAREY: The more she got paid. DOBBS: Yeah. RECAREY: So, she had intercourse with him. DOBBS: Um, I don’t know about the intercourse. I heard different stories on that. I’ve never asked him “Oh, you know…” But when I was first introduced to him, my friend [redacted] who introduced me to him, told me that she knew a girl who slept with him and made $1,000. But from what his internor secretary-told me, is that he doesn’t do that. He just plays around with them. So I heard two different stories. RECAREY: So, when you went and you massaged him, nothing happened between you two. DOBBS: Nothing. I wouldn’t let him. RECAREY: Okay. Did he become forceful? Did he get upset? DOBBS: I wouldn’t say he became upset. I think he was a little disappointed. But I’m not-I didn’t care. I knew I was getting paid. I let him-I let him look, but I never let him touch. It was out of the question for him. And I think that’s pretty much why he just, kind of down-promoted me? He was just kind of like, “You can bring girls.” But as far as working, you know- RECAREY: Okay. How many girls have you brought to him, aside from [redacted]? DOBBS: Oh. Um. A lot. RECAREY: A lot? DOBBS: Um, let’s see, there’s [several redacted names]… RECAREY: And all these girls knew what they had to do? DOBBS: Every one of them. 59 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009208¶
JAMES PATTERSON RECAREY: How long have you been working for him? DOBBS: Um…I probably worked for him for a year. RECAREY: Okay. And out of all these girls… DOBBS: Those were all the girls I brought. But you have to remember, those girls brought other girls, too. RECAREY: Oh, okay. DOBBS: So it’s like—it’s like a train. It’s like, I introduced him to all my friends, and then…it goes on and on, like that. RECAREY: Okay… [Redacted] being fourteen or fifteen at the time-I think [redacted] was fourteen when this happened— who else was underage? Out of all these? DOBBS: Underage, what do you mean? RECAREY: Under eighteen. DOBBS: Under eighteen? All of ‘em. RECAREY: All of them? DOBBS: All of them… RECAREY: Okay. Did Jeff know anybody’s real true age? Or he didn’t care. DOBBS: I don’t think he cared. He told me the younger the better. RECAREY: The younger the better. All right. DOBBS: Pretty much. That’s how it worked. He didn’t-let me just put it this way: I tried to bring him a woman who was twenty-three, and he didn’t really like it. RECAREY: Didn’t go for it. DOBBS: It’s not that he didn’t go for it. He just didn’t care for it. And he likes the girls that [are] between the ages of, like, eighteen and twenty…But some of them, I think, lie about their age. I know that when I started off young, I think he knew better [than] to believe me. I think he knew that I was 60 younger-like, sev teen. Most of those RECAREY: Let’s talk ab DOBBS: Okay. RECAREY: [Mary] at th DOBBS: Mm-hmm. RECAREY: Okay. She she know you work DOBBS: I told her. RECAREY: You had tol DOBBS: Mm-hmm. RECAREY: Did you tell DOBBS: She knew ever RECAREY: Okay. So sh some kind of- DOBBS: Contact. Pretty what his expectatio girls that go up the I was like, “If you w you go in that room know he was going right now, he’s expe RECAREY: Basically, th DOBBS: Fondling- RECAREY: Fondling- DOBBS: Or whatever. A Just like, “Just rem make. But that’s-1 brought up, told her HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009209¶
TERSON FILTHY RICH en working for him? for him for a year. nese girls… s I brought. But you have to t other girls, too. tin. It’s like, I introduced him to goes on and on, like that. being fourteen or fifteen at the fourteen when this happenedof all these? mean? em. v anybody’s real true age? Or he le told me the younger the better. tter. All right. ow it worked. He didn’t-let me to bring him a woman who was really like it. go for it. He just didn’t care for it. it [are] between the ages of, like, it some of them, I think, lie about en I started off young, I think he eve me. I think he knew that I was 60 younger-like, seventeen-but I told him I was, like, eighteen. Most of those girls lie when they go in there. RECAREY: Let’s talk about [Mary] for a minute. DOBBS: Okay. RECAREY: [Mary] at the time was dating your cousin, right? DOBBS: Mm-hmm. RECAREY: Okay. She told you she needed to make money. Did she know you worked for Jeffrey? DOBBS: I told her. RECAREY: You had told her you worked for Jeffrey. DOBBS: Mm-hmm. RECAREY: Did you tell her what it entailed? So she knew that? DOBBS: She knew everything before she even agreed to it. RECAREY: Okay. So she knew that there was going to have to be some kind of- DOBBS: Contact. Pretty much. Yeah. I told her. I told her exactly what his expectations were. I told her what goes on with the girls that go up there. I told her-it was like, “It’s your call.” I was like, “If you want to do this, fine. If not, fine. But when you go in that room, I don’t want to hear you say, ‘Oh, I didn’t know he was going to do all that.’ Because I’m telling you right now, he’s expecting it.” RECAREY: Basically, this is touching- DOBBS: Fondling- RECAREY: Fondling- DOBBS: Or whatever. And I told her when she went on her own. Just like, “Just remember, the more you do, the more you make. But that’s-that’s up to you.” And she asked me, and I brought up, told her I wouldn’t do more. 61 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009210¶
JAMES PATTERSON RECAREY: Okay. You made that clear, you wouldn’t do more. DOBBS: No. Screw that! RECAREY: But as far as [Mary] is concerned. What did she tell you that happened in that room? DOBBS: Exact words? If I can recall, when she came downstairs from-when she came downstairs, me and her and [redacted], we all walked out. We got into the car. And I was like, “How much did you make?” She’s like, “Three hundred dollars.” And I looked at [Mary] and I just knew right then she did more. RECAREY: Than just a massage, right? DOBBS: Yeah. And I asked her. I was like, “Well, what’d you do?” She’s like, “Well, I started giving a massage, and then my clothes came off and, you know, he put his fingers inside me. And then he brought out the massager.” And that’s basically what she said. RECAREY: It’s all right. You can talk to me. It’s all right. DOBBS: It’s kind of incredible talking about it, now that I-I can’t believe I worked for him. RECAREY: But it’s okay. You know what, we all go through things in life, you know what I mean? It’s an experience. And you can put this experience behind you. Do girls that-people that you brought over-how did you approach them? That they were going to have to do this… Like, if they wanted to work, how did you approach them? Say, “Listen, I got this guy in Palm Beach?” DOBBS: Um… Two of them were my friends. The others were, like, my acquaintances. It was a little more easier talking to them about it, ‘cause, like, I knew them. 62 RECAREY: Take a de see you’re workin can see it, and I d DOBBS: I, um, pretty RECAREY: Straight u DOBBS: “If you’re loo down in Palm Be have to give him Then, if they were I’d go into detail they told me, “Ye I’d tell them, “Oka you have to do, th RECAREY: Did you te from bringing the DOBBS: Most part? I were open about 1 was making mone RECAREY: Okay. Gir Gimme two secon All right. I talked FRICK: Which is w DOBBS: Okay. FRICK: Obviously I w at this point you cl You’ve taken girls prostitution. Mor those girls was fou significant second¶