ERSON stated to [Dobbs] that he ible, but he would pay her if old her the younger the bettied to bring a 23-year-old it the female was too old. only remembers six girls that ch time she was paid $200. ought these girls to Epstein’s 16 [years] of age. What she says about Mary’s Mary’s already told the police. pstein syncs up, too. But Wen- After all, she’s been playing on room. What he wants to know is, implicated herself in Epstein’s dy’s forehead, and now the police gives them phone numbers to go ned. She provides addresses. But On the way home, in a police car, e tells the escorting officers. 54 CHAPTER 14 Wendy Dobbs, interview with Detective Recarey and Sergeant Frick, October 3, 2005, transcribed from video (excerpts) RECAREY: Okay. Your Pepsi’s coming, my Pepsi’s coming. First of all, I know you’re freaking out. Don’t freak out, just relax. Okay? I want to thank you for coming. All right? Though the door’s closed, you’re free to go at any time. You’re not here— you know, it’s only closed for our privacy. DOBBS: That’s fine. RECAREY: I understand that you may have information on a case that we’re looking into, okay? That’s the reason why I brought you here today. All right? And again, you’re here voluntarily. You agreed to come back with us and talk to us. But I do want to talk you about Jeff Epstein, and the whole… thing. DOBBS: And I don’t need a lawyer, right? 55 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009204¶
JAMES PATTERSON RECAREY: It’s up to you. If you wanted one, you can have one. I can’t tell you yes or no on that. That’s totally [up] to you, I’m only- DOBBS: I’m not gonna get in trouble for anything I say, right? RECAREY: Right now, you’re just a witness. I’m talking to you as a witness… That’s totally up to you. You wanna talk to me? DOBBS: I have no problem telling you everything I know. I’m a very cooperative person. RECAREY: Okay. How did you first meet, um- DOBBS: I first met Jeffrey-I was at a beach resort on Singer Island, and I was approached by this girl I went to school with. Her name was [redacted]. And she was asking me, you know, “Oh, you need extra money, I know this guy…” I thought about it and I finally gave her a call, and her and her friend [redacted] met up with me. I actually picked them up and we drove down to Jeffrey’s house. She introduced me, whatever. RECAREY: Okay. Now, what [do] you mean by making money, how do you make money with Jeffrey? DOBBS: Um, there’s two ways. There’s two ways you can make money. He’ll, all right- RECAREY: That’s all right. Talk to me. Talk to me like, like nothin’. DOBBS: How do I say-this is going to sound really sleazy, but- RECAREY: No. Go ahead. Talk to me. DOBBS: Every girl that meets Jeffrey starts off with giving him a massage. The more you do with him, the more you make. Basically, if you take off your clothes, you’re gonna make more. If you let him do things to you, you’re gonna make more. RECAREY: Like “do things” you mean, touch you? 56 DOBBS: Yeah. Touch you. RECAREY: Okay. Does I DOBBS: He uses his hand I guess it’s like a ma that refused to do th but I wouldn’t let him that he’s like, “You I you $200 for every E don’t want you to ma girls to me…” So tha For every girl that yo that I brought to Jeffr there. RECAREY: Just to bring DOBBS: Yeah. Just to brin RECAREY: Okay. And t would have to massag DOBBS: She knew every one of Jeffrey’s rules. the house that didn’t would tell me, you kn expect, make sure the I get in that room I d need to know.” And, everything she was get RECAREY: Okay. What di DOBBS: I told her the sam Jeffrey-she came to r I basically told her at “What do you have to¶
TERSON wanted one, you can have one. it. That’s totally [up] to you, I’m ble for anything I say, right? a witness. I’m talking to you as to you. You wanna talk to me? g you everything I know. I’m a irrst meet, umvas at a beach resort on Singer ed by this girl I went to school ed]. And she was asking me, you money, I know this guy…” I y gave her a call, and her and her th me. I actually picked them up rey’s house. She introduced me, dol you mean by making money, ith Jeffrey? . There’s two ways you can make alk to me. Talk to me like, like going to sound really sleazy, but- k to me. Jeffrey starts off with giving him a lo with him, the more you make. ur clothes, you’re gonna make more. you, you’re gonna make more. you mean, touch you? 56 FILTHY RICH DOBBS: Yeah. Touch you in inappropriate places. RECAREY: Okay. Does he use his hands? Does he- DOBBS: He uses his hands and, I really wouldn’t call it a vibrator- I guess it’s like a massager? But um-I was one of the girls that refused to do that. I did it basically my-I did it naked, but I wouldn’t let him touch me or anything like that. So after that he’s like, “You know what?” He’s like, “Listen, I’ll pay you $200 for every girl that you bring to me.” He’s like, “I don’t want you to massage me anymore, you know, just bring girls to me…” So that’s the other way you can make money. For every girl that you bring to the table-so, for every girl that I brought to Jeffrey-I would make $200. Flat. Just right there. RECAREY: Just to bring a girl. DOBBS: Yeah. Just to bring a girl. RECAREY: Okay. And the girl that was going knew that she would have to massage him. DOBBS: She knew everything. She knew everything. That was one of Jeffrey’s rules. He had a problem with girls coming to the house that didn’t know what they were getting into. He would tell me, you know, “Make sure these girls know what I expect, make sure they know what they want, because when I get in that room I don’t want them to-you know-they need to know.” And, as far as [redacted]‘s case, she knew everything she was getting herself into. It was all volunteer. RECAREY: Okay. What did you tell her that she was gonna do? DOBBS: I told her the same thing. I told her, you know, this guy Jeffrey-she came to me saying she needed money, da da da. I basically told her about it. She was like, um, you know, “What do you have to do?” I told her. I was like, “The more 57 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009206¶
JAMES PATTERSON you do, the more you make. That’s it. In order to make money, you’re gonna have to go up there. You’re gonna take your clothes off. But the more you do, is the more you make.” She walked out of there with $300. So she obviously and evidently let him do a little more. Plus, on our way home, she kinda told me what she did. RECAREY: Which was? Give the massage… DOBBS: She gave the massage, and she basically let him, like, touch her, down there. Basically. RECAREY: Did he touch her with his hands? DOBBS: All with his hands. And then he brought out the massager. From what she told me. RECAREY: How old were you when you were approached to see Jeffrey? DOBBS: Um, I think I was seventeen? RECAREY: Seventeen. DOBBS: Sixteen or seventeen. RECAREY: Okay. When was the last time you talked to him? DOBBS: It’s been a while. I can honestly say it’s probably been about close to a year. About a year. I actually stopped working for him. RECAREY: Who was the last girl you brought over? DOBBS: The last girl I brought over was [redacted]… RECAREY: Okay. You got paid two hundred bucks for taking her over? DOBBS: Yes. RECAREY: Okay. [Redacted] knew… DOBBS: She knew everything. RECAREY: That she’d have to massage him, and the more she did- 58 DOBBS: The more she’d RECAREY: The more sh DOBBS: Yeah. RECAREY: So, she had i DOBBS: Um, I don’t kn ent stories on that. I But when I was first who introduced me slept with him and r or secretary-told plays around with th RECAREY: So, when yo happened between y DOBBS: Nothing. I woul RECAREY: Okay. Did h DOBBS: I wouldn’t say he pointed. But I’m notlet him-I let him lo the question for him. kind of down-promot bring girls.” But as far RECAREY: Okay. How aside from [redacted DOBBS: Oh. Um. A lot. RECAREY: A lot? DOBBS: Um, let’s see, th RECAREY: And all thes DOBBS: Every one of the …¶