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MR. : Thank you, sir. This is an official DOJ investigation into the death of inmate Jeffrey Epstein and the surrounding circumstances. And you’re being asked to voluntarily provide answers to our questions. Will you agree to a voluntary interview with the DOJ OIG?¶
MR. Thank you, sir. This is the United States Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General Warnings and Assurances to Employee Requested to Provide Information on a Voluntary Basis form. It says, you are being asked to provide information as part of an investigation being conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978 as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure and security failure. This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do¶
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go right back upstairs. You leave tomorrow or the next day.” Page 45, you talked about in the interview the daily log. Do you recall? This is the daily log and on the back page you’ll see where it says Efrain Reyes and where he was pre-remove.¶
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MR. It says, “During an interview we searched the daily log that shows Reyes was pre-removed at 8:35 on August 9, 2019. You said that that means that Reyes left the building and most likely was not going to return. If he was going to court, it would just say “court” next to his name.” Is that Correct?¶
MR. All right. Page 47 and 48, then you said, Since the daily log said pre-remove, that means that the callout sheet court roster likely said WAB next to Reyes’ name. When he was removed from the SHU. And¶
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MR. : All right. You then said that Reyes should have been replaced as soon as it was confirmed that he left the building. So after talking with you, we talked to R&D, and we reviewed a bunch of documents. And we found these - emails that we found from August 8, 2019. You wouldn’t have received them. But or at least I don’t believe you did. So the first one was sent at 10:33 . and it says that the following prisoners are being transferred. It says Reyes, Efrain. Please schedule the transfer for Friday, 8/9/2019. Please include seven days of medication with medical summary. Thank you. Did you ever receive that?¶
MR. : I don’t know.¶
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to me, again, he was another inmate. And if Reyes went downstairs, there was a possibility he was going to come back because you know, again, it’s not the first time or last time somebody goes downstairs with WAB and has to go right back upstairs.¶
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WAB. You knew that WAB meant he wasn’t coming back. He was listed as pre-remove. R&D said he transferred to another institution. This all happening during your shift. You were the OIC. Why didn’t you take action and get him a new bunkie?¶
MR. This is a total - we’re moving off of Reyes now. So this is an email sent from Friday, August 9, 2019, at 6:07.¶
It’s from you to who was the ops lieutenant. And it has to do with inmate Fernandez. And it looks like it was some kind of incident that took place while you were on shift. And I think we talked about this as well. So I’m just trying to figure out - and you can look at this. Were you here at 6:00 p.m.?¶
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visiting room - I assume that means you were off the visiting room - to conduct a visual search. Inmate Fernandez complied and the visual search was conducted. Operations lieutenant was contacted and inmate Fernandez was removed from the unit.¶
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MR. : I don’t think so. I probably got - I just told them I’m outside, why? If I came in it’s probably, oh I just remember I got to send a shot because we’ve got 24 hours to do so. And that’s probably the only reason I came back into the building to do the shot and go right back outside. I wasn’t thinking about any inmate if I’m outside.¶
MR. : And I do apologize. You may have just answered this to him, I just was already ahead in my thoughts. When it says that operations lieutenant was contacted and inmate Fernandez was removed from the unit. Would you say that that didn’t mean that you removed him?¶
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MR. : Just, you know, if there’s four people in the SHU, or any - let’s say there’s one person in the unit. That one person is assigned to the unit, but that one person - it’s fine for somebody else to help him or her out. If they have a million things going on, then I’m not just going to sit there and wait. Okay, you know, it’s your responsibility to do it, so I’m not going to do anything. I mean, I don’t know how other people work, but if I’m busy, my coworkers help me. If they’re busy, I help them. Again, so it’s not - even if it’s per se my responsibility, his responsibility. Okay, somebody got caught trying to bring contraband into the building. I’ll grab him off your hands and I’ll take him downstairs to internal - to R&D for you. Or I don’t know if he has, I’ll take him to SHU for you. It doesn’t have to be that one specific person that say - like okay, I caught him doing something wrong. I’m not the one that goes through the whole time always. I could probably get him. Okay, the lieutenant comes. He takes over. Then I’m done. I got to write the shot. Or the¶
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CERTIFICATE¶
I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General in the matter of:¶
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