DIGITALLY RECORDED SWORN STATEMENT OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SEPTEMBER 1, 2021 RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES 28632 Roadside Drive, Suite 285 Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Phone: (818) 431-5800 EFTA00142190 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE APPEARANCES: OTHER APPEARANCES: NONE EFTA00142191 EFTA00142192 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 4 MR. : Thank you, sir. This is an official DOJ investigation into the death of inmate Jeffrey Epstein and the surrounding circumstances. And you’re being asked to voluntarily provide answers to our questions. Will you agree to a voluntary interview with the DOJ OIG? MR. Thank you, sir. This is the United States Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General Warnings and Assurances to Employee Requested to Provide Information on a Voluntary Basis form. It says, you are being asked to provide information as part of an investigation being conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978 as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure and security failure. This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do EFTA00142193 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 5 EFTA00142194 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142195 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 7 EFTA00142196 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 8 go right back upstairs. You leave tomorrow or the next day.” Page 45, you talked about in the interview the daily log. Do you recall? This is the daily log and on the back page you’ll see where it says Efrain Reyes and where he was pre-remove. MR. Yes. MR. It says, "During an interview we searched the daily log that shows Reyes was pre-removed at 8:35 on August 9, 2019. You said that that means that Reyes left the building and most likely was not going to return. If he was going to court, it would just say “court” next to his name.” Is that Correct? MR. All right. Page 47 and 48, then you said, Since the daily log said pre-remove, that means that the callout sheet court roster likely said WAB next to Reyes’ name. When he was removed from the SHU. And EFTA00142197 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE MR. : All right. You then said that Reyes should have been replaced as soon as it was confirmed that he left the building. So after talking with you, we talked to R&D, and we reviewed a bunch of documents. And we found these - emails that we found from August 8, 2019. You wouldn’t have received them. But or at least I don’t believe you did. So the first one was sent at 10:33 . and it says that the following prisoners are being transferred. It says Reyes, Efrain. Please schedule the transfer for Friday, 8/9/2019. Please include seven days of medication with medical summary. Thank you. Did you ever receive that? MR. : I don’t know. EFTA00142198 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142199 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142200 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 12 EFTA00142201 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 13 EFTA00142202 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 14 EFTA00142203 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142204 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 16 to me, again, he was another inmate. And if Reyes went downstairs, there was a possibility he was going to come back because you know, again, it’s not the first time or last time somebody goes downstairs with WAB and has to go right back upstairs. EFTA00142205 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142206 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142207 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142208 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 20 EFTA00142209 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 21 EFTA00142210 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142211 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 23 EFTA00142212 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 24 EFTA00142213 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 25 EFTA00142214 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 26 WAB. You knew that WAB meant he wasn’t coming back. He was listed as pre-remove. R&D said he transferred to another institution. This all happening during your shift. You were the OIC. Why didn’t you take action and get him a new bunkie? MR. This is a total - we’re moving off of Reyes now. So this is an email sent from Friday, August 9, 2019, at 6:07. It’s from you to who was the ops lieutenant. And it has to do with inmate Fernandez. And it looks like it was some kind of incident that took place while you were on shift. And I think we talked about this as well. So I’m just trying to figure out - and you can look at this. Were you here at 6:00 p.m.? EFTA00142215 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 27 EFTA00142216 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 28 EFTA00142217 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 29 visiting room - I assume that means you were off the visiting room - to conduct a visual search. Inmate Fernandez complied and the visual search was conducted. Operations lieutenant was contacted and inmate Fernandez was removed from the unit. EFTA00142218 EFTA00142219 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 31 EFTA00142220 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 32 EFTA00142221 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 33 EFTA00142222 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142223 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142224 EFTA00142225 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142226 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142227 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142228 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142229 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 41 EFTA00142230 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 42 EFTA00142231 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 43 EFTA00142232 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 4 4 EFTA00142233 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 45 MR. : I don’t think so. I probably got - I just told them I’m outside, why? If I came in it’s probably, oh I just remember I got to send a shot because we’ve got 24 hours to do so. And that’s probably the only reason I came back into the building to do the shot and go right back outside. I wasn’t thinking about any inmate if I’m outside. MR. : And I do apologize. You may have just answered this to him, I just was already ahead in my thoughts. When it says that operations lieutenant was contacted and inmate Fernandez was removed from the unit. Would you say that that didn’t mean that you removed him? EFTA00142234 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142235 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 47 MR. : Just, you know, if there’s four people in the SHU, or any - let’s say there’s one person in the unit. That one person is assigned to the unit, but that one person - it’s fine for somebody else to help him or her out. If they have a million things going on, then I’m not just going to sit there and wait. Okay, you know, it’s your responsibility to do it, so I’m not going to do anything. I mean, I don’t know how other people work, but if I’m busy, my coworkers help me. If they’re busy, I help them. Again, so it’s not - even if it’s per se my responsibility, his responsibility. Okay, somebody got caught trying to bring contraband into the building. I’ll grab him off your hands and I’ll take him downstairs to internal - to R&D for you. Or I don’t know if he has, I’ll take him to SHU for you. It doesn’t have to be that one specific person that say - like okay, I caught him doing something wrong. I’m not the one that goes through the whole time always. I could probably get him. Okay, the lieutenant comes. He takes over. Then I’m done. I got to write the shot. Or the EFTA00142236 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 48 EFTA00142237 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 49 EFTA00142238 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142239 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 51 EFTA00142240 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142241 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 53 EFTA00142242 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 54 EFTA00142243 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 55 EFTA00142244 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 56 EFTA00142245 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142246 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 58 EFTA00142247 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 59 EFTA00142248 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 60 ## CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General in the matter of: EFTA00142249