SWORN STATEMENT¶
OIG CASE #:¶
2019-010614¶
OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL¶
SEPTEMBER 23, 2021¶
RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES¶
Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Phone:¶
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conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978, as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure, and security failure.¶
This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do not have to answer questions. No disciplinary action will be taken against you if you choose not to answer questions. Any statement you furnish may be used as evidence in any future criminal proceedings, or agency disciplinary proceedings, or both.” The waiver states, “I understand the Warnings and Assurances stated above and I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. No promises or threats have been made to me, and no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me.” Please read the form, and if you understand—¶
MS. : Okay.¶
MR. : — can you please sign where it says employee name, signature?¶
MR. : Need a pen?¶
MS. : Thank you.¶
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I came to work, I spoke to the staff team, as well as his cellmate, to try to get both of their sides of the story.¶
MS. : I spoke to Epstein in the R&D area. He was a little hesitant, at first, about speaking to me. He kept asking me who was I? You know, what was I interviewing him for? And I explained to him my position as the SIS Lieutenant, to ensure his safety needs are met, and, you know, I questioned him about the alleged suicide attempt, and he said, I don’t remember what happened. I remember him telling me he went to get a drink of water, and all he remembered is he was on the floor. And the staff will come in and he wouldn’t provide much of anything else.¶
I did question him about Mr. Tartaglione. You know, did you guys have any words with each other? You know, we were just cellmates at the time. You know, when you went to get the drink of water, and he would -. Either he say he was laying on the floor, or sitting on the bed.¶
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You know? I asked him, you know, are you telling me the truth? Is there anything that you would like to volunteer? You know, did you intentionally try to harm yourself? And at times, like, I didn’t try to harm myself. I don’t know what happened. I just got a drink of water, and next thing you know, I was on the floor.¶
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MS. : I don’t know if it was, you know, looking back, I kind of felt, like, okay, was this, like, did he intentionally try to do something to get our attention? You know, then I leaned to, maybe he didn’t. You know? You have two inmates in the cell. And I’m, you know, I’m also looking at did, you know, did Tartaglione tell me the truth. You know, I really can’t say what happened because you have, you know, Mr. Epstein saying, you know, no, he didn’t try to do anything to me, and I asked about them interacting. Do they talk? And he’s, like, yes, we talk.¶
You know, we’re cellmates. We talk. We read books. He, you know? So, it wasn’t no reason for me to believe that Mr. Tartaglione, you know, tried to harm him because Epstein didn’t give me that impression.¶
MR. : And was he placed on¶
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MS. : I actually was reviewing the cameras from the SIS office, with one of the associate wardens. We were looking for an inmate, to see what time he was released, a cadre (Phonetic Sp. *00:50:30) inmate. We were looking to see what time he was released because I was trying to backtrack, because I was going to interview the inmate, with an OIG officer, about an incident. And I learned, he’s gone. And I said, gone where? Oh, his release date - which, he was scheduled to be released - so, that made me go back to look to see, well, let me see what time they released him. And we were trying to pinpoint when he got released, so we could get in touch with that halfway house. So, we - myself and the agent - was going to go to the halfway house, to interview him.¶
And upon me going back to the cameras, I said, wait a minute, we don’t have no cameras. I can’t go back. So, of course, I clicked on several cameras, just to see if I could play it¶
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office, which was right next door to mine, and notifying him that the cameras was down, that I’m trying to go back and look at the footage, and I can’t. Actually, I had one of the associate wardens with me, as well. Who happens to be his supervisor, so.¶
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MS. : Once I walked into the Special Housing area on the 10th, he was there. I don’t know if he was working that day. But he was there, and when the door opened, you know, my response was, well, what happened to the cameras? And he said, oh, that’s what I’m here for today. Which was two days later. I’m here today to fix it. But I guess they pulled him, and put him on the post, or something to that effect. And I said, but you told me you was going to fix them on the 8th. And he was, like, I couldn’t fix them on the 8th. I can’t remember why he said he couldn’t. But I think he responded to me before I could even ask the question, once he saw me because I was a little taken back that the cameras were down. Because¶
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CERTIFICATE¶
I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General in the matter of:¶
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