SWORN STATEMENT OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SEPTEMBER 23, 2021 RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Phone: EFTA00116694 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116695 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 3 EFTA00116696 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116697 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 5 conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978, as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure, and security failure. This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do not have to answer questions. No disciplinary action will be taken against you if you choose not to answer questions. Any statement you furnish may be used as evidence in any future criminal proceedings, or agency disciplinary proceedings, or both.” The waiver states, "I understand the Warnings and Assurances stated above and I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. No promises or threats have been made to me, and no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me.” Please read the form, and if you understand-- MS. : Okay. MR. : -- can you please sign where it says employee name, signature? MR. : Need a pen? MS. : Thank you. EFTA00116698 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116699 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116700 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116701 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116702 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116703 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116704 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 12 I came to work, I spoke to the staff team, as well as his cellmate, to try to get both of their sides of the story. MS. : I spoke to Epstein in the R&D area. He was a little hesitant, at first, about speaking to me. He kept asking me who was I? You know, what was I interviewing him for? And I explained to him my position as the SIS Lieutenant, to ensure his safety needs are met, and, you know, I questioned him about the alleged suicide attempt, and he said, I don’t remember what happened. I remember him telling me he went to get a drink of water, and all he remembered is he was on the floor. And the staff will come in and he wouldn’t provide much of anything else. I did question him about Mr. Tartaglione. You know, did you guys have any words with each other? You know, we were just cellmates at the time. You know, when you went to get the drink of water, and he would -. Either he say he was laying on the floor, or sitting on the bed. EFTA00116705 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 13 You know? I asked him, you know, are you telling me the truth? Is there anything that you would like to volunteer? You know, did you intentionally try to harm yourself? And at times, like, I didn't try to harm myself. I don't know what happened. I just got a drink of water, and next thing you know, I was on the floor. EFTA00116706 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 14 EFTA00116707 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 15 EFTA00116708 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 16 MS. : I don’t know if it was, you know, looking back, I kind of felt, like, okay, was this, like, did he intentionally try to do something to get our attention? You know, then I leaned to, maybe he didn't. You know? You have two inmates in the cell. And I'm, you know, I'm also looking at did, you know, did Tartaglione tell me the truth. You know, I really can't say what happened because you have, you know, Mr. Epstein saying, you know, no, he didn't try to do anything to me, and I asked about them interacting. Do they talk? And he’s, like, yes, we talk. You know, we’re cellmates. We talk. We read books. He, you know? So, it wasn’t no reason for me to believe that Mr. Tartaglione, you know, tried to harm him because Epstein didn't give me that impression. MR. : And was he placed on EFTA00116709 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116710 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116711 EFTA00116712 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116713 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 21 EFTA00116714 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116715 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 23 EFTA00116716 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116717 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116718 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116719 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 27 EFTA00116720 EFTA00116721 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116722 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116723 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116724 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 32 EFTA00116725 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 33 EFTA00116726 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116727 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 35 EFTA00116728 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 36 EFTA00116729 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 37 EFTA00116730 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 38 EFTA00116731 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116732 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 40 EFTA00116733 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 41 EFTA00116734 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116735 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116736 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 4 4 EFTA00116737 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 45 EFTA00116738 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 46 EFTA00116739 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 47 EFTA00116740 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 48 EFTA00116741 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 49 EFTA00116742 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 50 EFTA00116743 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 51 EFTA00116744 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 52 EFTA00116745 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116746 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 54 EFTA00116747 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 55 EFTA00116748 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116749 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 57 EFTA00116750 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 58 EFTA00116751 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 59 EFTA00116752 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116753 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116754 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 62 EFTA00116755 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 63 EFTA00116756 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 64 EFTA00116757 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 65 EFTA00116758 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116759 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 67 EFTA00116760 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 68 MS. : I actually was reviewing the cameras from the SIS office, with one of the associate wardens. We were looking for an inmate, to see what time he was released, a cadre (Phonetic Sp. *00:50:30) inmate. We were looking to see what time he was released because I was trying to backtrack, because I was going to interview the inmate, with an OIG officer, about an incident. And I learned, he’s gone. And I said, gone where? Oh, his release date - which, he was scheduled to be released - so, that made me go back to look to see, well, let me see what time they released him. And we were trying to pinpoint when he got released, so we could get in touch with that halfway house. So, we - myself and the agent - was going to go to the halfway house, to interview him. And upon me going back to the cameras, I said, wait a minute, we don't have no cameras. I can't go back. So, of course, I clicked on several cameras, just to see if I could play it EFTA00116761 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 69 EFTA00116762 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116763 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116764 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116765 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 73 EFTA00116766 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 74 EFTA00116767 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 75 EFTA00116768 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 76 EFTA00116769 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 77 EFTA00116770 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 78 office, which was right next door to mine, and notifying him that the cameras was down, that I'm trying to go back and look at the footage, and I can't. Actually, I had one of the associate wardens with me, as well. Who happens to be his supervisor, so. EFTA00116771 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 79 EFTA00116772 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116773 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116774 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 82 EFTA00116775 EFTA00116776 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116777 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 85 EFTA00116778 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116779 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116780 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116781 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116782 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116783 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00116784 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 92 EFTA00116785 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 93 EFTA00116786 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 94 MS. : Once I walked into the Special Housing area on the 10th, he was there. I don’t know if he was working that day. But he was there, and when the door opened, you know, my response was, well, what happened to the cameras? And he said, oh, that’s what I'm here for today. Which was two days later. I'm here today to fix it. But I guess they pulled him, and put him on the post, or something to that effect. And I said, but you told me you was going to fix them on the 8th. And he was, like, I couldn’t fix them on the 8th. I can't remember why he said he couldn't. But I think he responded to me before I could even ask the question, once he saw me because I was a little taken back that the cameras were down. 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