TERSON FILTHY RICH y you went? that was a year before they were supposed to come out. So if I -he used to tell me I was his got it, I obviously didn’t get a 2006, ‘cause that’s this year. I ie bought megot a 2005 Neon in 2004. Seven miles on it when I got it. The car was awesome [giggles]. e Neon. I got a plane-I got a ot spending money whenever I deep. I was-he asked my parould live with him. Or he didn’t to ask my parents, I’m sorry. He ave with him. I gave it back before I graduated. It got too-it got too sticky for me. He wanted more than I was willing to give. I didn’t wanna-I didn’t want to, um, suck his dick. I didn’t want to have sex with him. I never did that, and I wanted to be able to walk away from this saying that I-saying that I never did that. And I’m glad that I did. nt to call it. Yeah. Um, but it ased my pay, as long as he could put anything inside of me. And e day he just put his hand, like, om the very first time you went? ot track, like, of, of what happened hich order things progressed. But I lied to him when I gave it back. I didn’t want to burn my bridges, because he was a spectacular connection to have. Spectacular. Even if I didn’t-even when I didn’t work for him. Until this day, he is so aw-he is so-I haven’t talked to him in, like, a couple months, but if I called him today he would give me as much money as I asked him for. He doesn’t know that I hate him the way I do. I kept that connection. I figured he used me, I’d be able to use him. Um, I hate to say that, but I figured if I wanted to use him I could. D: Okay. Let me bring you back a little bit. V: Sure. D: When did things start to escalate as far as things happening when the massages were given? V: They escalated whenever he wanted. I don’t clearly understand the question. D: Okay. The first time you went, you were naked- V: Are you asking for a date? D: Oh, no, no, nords the middle and end of my : that for the last, like, six or eight n’t have a ‘cause I gave it back ked me to have sex with him and, f [giggles], and I was just like, no. ‘I’ll let you touch me, but I’m not Neon 2005. He got it for me before member I got it-it was an edition 42 43 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009192¶
JAMES PATTERSON V: …and the little steps that things progressed? D: Right. V: Well, I went and I wouldn’t take off my panties at first. And then he got me to get naked. Then he got me to let him rub me. Then he got me to let him stick his fingers in me. Then he got me to let him go down on me. Then, um-that was pretty much the gist of it, except this one time, where he bent me over the table and put himself in me. Without my permission. And I flipped out. I’m sorry, I didn’t ask you, but I don’t count that as me having sex with him… ‘Cause I just told you that I never had sex with him. I never did. Even though, I don’t know what you’d consider that. But he then-I go, “What are you doing?” He goes, “Oh, I just wanted [redacted] to see this.” D: Okay. Let me back you up. When you were completely naked, the same things happened? You went in, you massaged him? V: Sometimes I didn’t even do that. Sometimes he just asked me to take off my clothes and-he’d have to do work, he’d be sitting at his desk or something, and I’d just be naked there, watching television or reading a book, but I’d be naked. Or, um, sometimes he wanted to just watch TV or read, and he’d lay in his bed and ask me to take my clothes off and lay with him. And that’s it. Not touch him or anything… Sometimes he’d just invite me over for breakfast, for dinner, or just to use the swimming pool, and I’d get paid for that, too. I’d get paid just to hang out with him. That’s it. And if the money wasn’t there, I wouldn’t have ever been in that house. D: Okay. When he started to touch you- V: I have a question. Before I say anything else. Um, is there a possibility that I’m gonna have to go to court or anything? Like, that’s a possibility, right? 44 D: Well, here’s the thin going to sit down, w he did to you is a cri V: Would you consider be rape, what he did? D: If he put himself insi V: I didn’t say that, or a is about, like, my hip D: That, that is a crime. V: I don’t want my fan doesn’t know any of t for two years, or how thinks I made phone ing my [unintelligibl know anything. D: Well, you’re an adul done with this interv decide the best course V: ‘Cause Jeffrey’s gonna He’s gonna find-he’s I’m not safe now. You D: He is not this person t V: Well- D: Why do you say you’re before? V: Well, I’ve heard him m yeah. Of course. D: You’re gonna die? You’l V: All the above! But that D: Who’s he talking to?¶
ERSON gs progressed? ke off my panties at first. And en he got me to let him rub me. k his fingers in me. Then he got ie. Then, um-that was pretty one time, where he bent me over . Without my permission. And I ask you, but I don’t count that as ‘Cause I just told you that I never Even though, I don’t know what n-I go, “What are you doing?” edacted] to see this.” hen you were completely naked, ou went in, you massaged him? hat. Sometimes he just asked me -he’d have to do work, he’d be ing, and I’d just be naked there, ing a book, but I’d be naked. Or, o just watch TV or read, and he’d take my clothes off and lay with h him or anything…Sometimes : breakfast, for dinner, or just to d I’d get paid for that, too. I’d get him. That’s it. And if the money re ever been in that house. ouch yousay anything else. Um, is there a have to go to court or anything? ght? 44 FILTHY RICH D: Well, here’s the thing: When this is all said and done, we’re going to sit down, we’re going to discuss this. I mean, what he did to you is a crime. I’m not gonna lie to you. V: Would you consider it rape? Like, would you consider that to be rape, what he did? D: If he put himself inside you, without permission- V: I didn’t say that, or anything. I was standing up and the table is about, like, my hip length-he just put me down- D: That, that is a crime. That is a crime. V: I don’t want my family to find out about this. My family doesn’t know any of this. My mom thinks I was his secretary, for two years, or however long-a year and a half. My mom thinks I made phone calls for him and that’s how I was making my [unintelligible] money. That’s it. I don’t want her to know anything. D: Well, you’re an adult. You’re an adult now…When we’re done with this interview, we’ll discuss this further and we’ll decide the best course. V: ‘Cause Jeffrey’s gonna get me. You guys realize that, right? He’s gonna find-he’s gonna figure this out. And he’s gonna- I’m not safe now. You understand that, right? I’m not safe. D: He is not this person that he is portraying himself to be- V: Well- D: Why do you say you’re not safe? Has he said he’s hurt people before? V: Well, I’ve heard him make threats to people on the telephone, yeah. Of course. D: You’re gonna die? You’re gonna break your legs? Or- V: All the above! But that’s not the point. D: Who’s he talking to? 45 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009194¶
JAMES PATTERSON V: I don’t know. I don’t know, I heard those conversations, I mean, I’ve been in the room when he was on the phone and [unintelligible] threatened. Like, I witnessed lots of things. I just don’t know what, specifically, you all [want to know]. D: Everything. V: I used to go there every day, like I w—I don’t, I don’t know how many other girls he was saying, “You’re my favorite, and I want you to live with me” to, but I was in about as deep as you can get. D: He had quite a few girls he would say that to. D: Do you have any formal massage training? V: [Giggles.] Hell, no. D: All right, I was just asking. V: He would kiss me and stuff, too. I remember that. And when he kissed me, if he was jerking off he would, like, rub himself on my breasts. And I…I was extremely uncomfortable. I would maneuver myself away from that activity. I’d get up and I’d move somewhere else, or I’d—I don’t even remember. I would stop whatever was going on without saying, “Can you get the fuck off me?” I would stop it without saying stuff like that. D: Okay. V: I wouldn’t let him put anything in me until one day he did just out of nowhere. And I said, “Wait a second: my boyfriend, you know, we had this thing, you can’t do that. You know, I’m—I’m allowed to work here as long as you don’t do that.” And he said “okay.” Well, a couple months later I guess he 46 assumed me and my it one day; he just did I said, “What are yo cool,” and he goes, “C I said, “No, we did no uh, and then he just ( why don’t I just give y out?” And I was like no to. I don’t know if: Oh, yeah. Well, if yo tries to control the sit out of your mouth, i going to say. Like, tl money is knowing wh ple are gonna do. D: What did he tell you h V: Well, there’s a coupl myself, things I looke cally told me when I a brain scientist.” And I tist?” I was like, “Tha But anyway…his expl people’s brains work. means. Whatever. You ble…])” You know wh held on so long is, he p That I would get into waited, and I waited, a get 4.0-like, I did gre HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009195¶
TERSON heard those conversations, I when he was on the phone and ke, I witnessed lots of things. I ally, you all [want to know]. like I w-I don’t, I don’t know saying, “You’re my favorite, and o, but I was in about as deep as ould say that to. sage training? too. I remember that. And when ting off he would, like, rub him- I was extremely uncomfortable. I vay from that activity. I’d get up se, or I’d-I don’t even remember. s going on without saying, “Can would stop it without saying stuff¶
thing in me until one day he did said, “Wait a second: my boyfriend, ting, you can’t do that. You know, here as long as you don’t do that.”, a couple months later I guess he 46 FILTHY RICH assumed me and my boyfriend had broken up, and he just did it one day; he just did it without asking or anything. And then I said, “What are you doing?” I said, “You know that’s not cool,” and he goes, “Oh, I thought we did that last time.” And I said, “No, we did not do that last time.” And then he goesuh, and then he just offered me more money. He’s like, “Well, why don’t I just give you something extra, and we can try this out?” And I was like [sigh, “All right.” Very hard guy to say no to. I don’t know if any of you guys ever talked to him… Oh, yeah. Well, if you talk to him, I mean, he straight up tries to control the situation. Every-every word that comes out of your mouth, it seems like, he knows what you are going to say. Like, that’s his job; that’s how he made his money is knowing what people are gonna say and what people are gonna do. D: What did he tell you he does for a living? V: Well, there’s a couple of things. Things that I found for myself, things I looked up on the Internet. What he specifically told me when I asked him the first time was, “Oh, I’m a brain scientist.” And I said, “What the fuck is a brain scientist?” I was like, “That’s not a real job-tell me the truth.” But anyway… his explanation was, “It’s my job to know how people’s brains work.” And I said, “Whatever the fuck that means. Whatever. You’re like some old guy who [unintelligible…]” You know what he promised me? Here’s the reason I held on so long is, he promised me that I would get into NYU. That I would get into NYU and he would pay for it. And I waited, and I waited, and I scored great on my SATs, I would get 4.0-like, I did great in school. I filled out my application 47¶
JAMES PATTERSON and he told me that it wasn’t good enough. So I filled it out again, and it was like three times. So I’m pretty sure he wasn’t checking into it, he was just telling me that he was. But I think that had a lot to do with the reason I stayed there so long, ‘cause my dream was right in front of me, you know? And it’s so far… D: Aside from having been with [redacted], was there anybody else that you brought to the house? V: I brought a few people… Because it got out that I did this. Like, everyone at school knew. You know, everyone talks D: It was a circle, and- V: It was a little circle, yeah…Not that I would want anybody to get involved…I brought girls I didn’t like and, frankly, did not give a shit about. Girls that I knew were skanks. That would do anything. Girls that would just, like, suck dick in the bathroom at school. Like, not even people I was friends with. I’d just hear a rumor about a girl and be like, “Hey, I know a way you can make two hundred dollars. How about…” I would tell them flat out, like, “This is what you’ve got to do. Are you cool with this? ‘Cause I’m not gonna take you if you’re not.” So I told them. They all know that I got paid to bring them. It was actually [redacted]. She took off her shirt. She was a little overweight, so he didn’t want anything to do [with her]. She was my best friend. But, you know, she was another story. I did care about her. But, um, she lost her house and stuff and really needed money. She had-she was homeless, she had nowhere to go. So she did it out of desperation. D: Did he ever hurt you? 48 V: Sometimes he got vic D: Violent as in what? A V: He pulled my hair pulled. Like, he-o you’re all, like, notmean, like, if you’re like, my ponytailswould pull it to wher my hair, and then so throw me whichever just like use a toy or penis, though, ever. I little, so he could pi throw, obviously it’s I mean, there’s been able to walk, um, fr really-nothing spec I can’t really recall. Nothing that I went t getting tore up a few D: This is getting real pe V: What, like, had I had D: Okay. V: Um. But honest, I me three steady boyfrien ever done anything w a year. So it’s not like HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009197¶
ERSON FILTHY RICH good enough. So I filled it out es. So I’m pretty sure he wasn’t telling me that he was. But I h the reason I stayed there so ght in front of me, you know? [redacted], was there anybody ouse? cause it got out that I did this. . You know, everyone talks- Not that I would want anybody girls I didn’t like and, frankly, s that I knew were skanks. That at would just, like, suck dick in e, not even people I was friends about a girl and be like, “Hey, I ke two hundred dollars. How lat out, like, “This is what you’ve this? ‘Cause I’m not gonna take them. They all know that I got actually [redacted]. She took off verweight, so he didn’t want any- e was my best friend. But, you ry. I did care about her. But, um, ff and really needed money. She e had nowhere to go. So she did it V: Sometimes he got violent, yeah. D: Violent as in what? As in- V: He pulled my hair a lot harder than it should have been pulled. Like, he-okay, I can understand having sex, and you’re all, like, not-not that we were having sex, but I mean, like, if you’re all into it and you pull hair a little bit, like, my ponytails-just like a little bit, whatever. But he would pull it to where it would rip my hair out. It would rip my hair, and then sometimes he would pick me up and, like, throw me whichever way he wanted me, and then he would just like use a toy or, like, his hand or whatever. Never his penis, though, ever. I never had sex with him. But um-I’m little, so he could pick me up. Like, if you pick me up and throw, obviously it’s gonna hurt… I mean, there’s been nights that I walked out of there barely able to walk, um, from him being so rough. But nothing really-nothing specific that he really got violent with. Like, I can’t really recall. Nothing that I went to the doctor for, no. I mean, I remember getting tore up a few times, but it was nothing that- D: This is getting real personal, but were you active before him? V: What, like, had I had sex? Yeah [laughs]. D: Okay. V: Um. But honest, I mean, I’m not-I’m not a ho. I’ve had only three steady boyfriends, and those are the only three that I’ve ever done anything with. And they were all with me for over a year. So it’s not like I just go and hook up at parties. 48 49 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009198¶
JAMES PATTERSON Like, I’ve gotten thousands of dollars’ worth of shit. Man, the underwear I’m wearing right now he gave me. Like, I’d—I’d go over there and there’d be a bag of Victoria’s Secret underwear, like, waiting for me, like, talking, like, fifteen hundred dollars’ worth of stuff. I got a plane ticket from him once. I got a car, I got Christmas bonuses, I got movie tickets. Like, he’d buy me movie tickets—like, he’d say, “Hey, have you gone to the movies lately?” I’d be like, “I dunno, oh—not really,” [and] he goes, “Do you want to go?” He’d give me, like, eight movie tickets. I got show tickets; I went and saw, like, David Copperfield. I had, like, VIP tickets or something like that. I need to show you, like, what I’m talking about, like, the positioning that we were—it was like, okay, here’s the thing: there’s the, like, little flower thing, then here’s the massage table. I was right here, he was right here, [and] she was here. Um. And I was standing up, and he just pushed me over the table, and he did his thing with me. D: Okay. Were you facing the table? Were you? V: I was. I was facedown on the table. Like, facedown, hands, like, on my head, holding—I don’t, I don’t mean—I wasn’t fighting, really. So I don’t know if he was holding me down to kinda stop me from fighting or what he was doing. He’s just a really weird—he’s into really weird stuff. Like, I was just bent over, and my face was on the table. I was facedown on the table. And then he did his thing. So. But anyway, [redacted] was right here, and I’m pretty sure she was naked, and the couch is, like, right behind, but, um, that’s how it happened…He was only in me for, like could say that lon whatever the fuck y you doing?” [gigg “Oh, I just wanted 50 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009199¶
IRSON FILTHY RICH ollars’ worth of shit. Man, the ow he gave me. Like, I’d—I’d bag of Victoria’s Secret under- , talking, like, fifteen hundred plane ticket from him once. I uses, I got movie tickets. Like, like, he’d say, “Hey, have you ‘d be like, “I dunno, oh-not ou want to go?” He’d give me, got show tickets; I went and I had, like, VIP tickets or some- : I’m talking about, like, the posilike, okay, here’s the thing: there’s en here’s the massage table. I was and] she was here. Um. And I was hed me over the table, and he did able? Were you? the table. Like, facedown, hands, -I don’t, I don’t mean-I wasn’t ow if he was holding me down to 3 or what he was doing. He’s just a ly weird stuff. Like, I was just bent the table. I was facedown on the ing. So. But anyway, [redacted] was sure she was naked, and the couch m, that’s how it happened… He was 50 only in me for, like, a minute or two. I don’t even know if you could say that long. He put it in, did a couple of pumps, or whatever the fuck you wanna call it, and I was like, “What are you doing?” [giggles] I go, “What are you doing?” He’s like, “Oh, I just wanted [redacted] to see this.” Then that was that. 51 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009200¶