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Testimony · Aug. 14, 2019

Testimony, 2019-08-14

Garbled interview record with a Bureau of Prisons officer about count procedures, understaffing, and a high-profile inmate at MCC New YorkMachine-written summary

8/14/2019

SANY © 2025

  • 914 gave listening @ 2024

” I have No Eastern to Ler ”

  • asked if any questions - NO

Employee

BOP 12/11/1994

OP LT 2010? Early 2001/2002

to LT. 1-5 years 2010 Bank O GS9

→ GS11

direct & pv.

1 supv staff

staff that would under move around on roster - super daily duties resp for their safety and innites safety.

Currently on Morning worth they put you where they want shift 12 x 8 usually Release 10x4

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Believe At 10 Ans dutres shant At 10 - when you Relieve You start.

Daily LT. lrg Daily Activity lrg LT. lrg → Most important things of daily daily Act lrg - BRRT Synopsis of importance

VT. Irg - computer Entries Street Rurray Month - fallen Entire information As it occurs As much As possible - All others may do different

in cuts of duties at same time ot, coverage, medical etc.

You do the log as you can when free some do at end ” I try and do it as it happens but times at late date → call control and they will have correct times

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Examplar of calling an Ambulance

Supervision of Count

We are resp for 1 count / shift

Compare to EI sheet total #

Assign need to Each Unit

Where - who are / who

compare to your predecessor

Control centre off took all others

How Count happens: Intrenal cell or any Mobile will collect those slips

different from calling control call 15T

PLACE SLIPS AFTER IF NO COUNT SLIPS AT MOBILE OFFICE CALLS TO CONTROL TO GET SLIPS CALL CONTROL VIA PHONE FOR COUNT

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Clear vs Good Verbal

Verbal all calls match

Clear all matches slips and calls

Count RWK became friend ?

Good verbal

  • count ships are concern

Count Cleance!

Offer Ensuring do count Expect offer knows importance on own only I preson - ” You hope ” for the most part we do.

Shifting issues @ MCC things happen - it’s a prison

Shoff to Magnet ?

short of shoff necessary for rates

Peter to pay Paul

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constantly having to shift to fill out required duties resp now of additional new obligated duties

short staff → Lots can happen can’t do better the way you should - overwhelming → constant.

” Work to live ” - Problems but Nothing done can ‘t always give 110%

My life does not revolve around mec Not required to give you our lives. Our Body’s can’t give that much. Better things to do than work 16 hrs on 16+ hours.

INMOTES AREN’T Angels - drugs, phones shonks - Ass to stress

we work in no guarantee wrolk out

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Do things happen because tired you make mistakes - they get bigger - things ” just happen ” .

Ever caught anyone NOT doing a count → No

Never heard anyone discussing

Training on Count ?

BOP 101 1 important on taking Count - Rely on living Be nothing people

If environment is great you are creating opportunities for things to happen

No one world told me no counts.

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When they call it in we know I see them walking around

Not all done @ same time I see them walking around

  • Usually I take midnight count 30 min rounds → when I get there I make them

Lots to do And check - No specific time I thing to next

Green Way Book ?

Gone for years

They made one like a tablet And yes you are resp. to sign -NO time entry. You need to match what , am doing to see it thats my own.

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Normal Round

talk w/ offers - Days Activity talk about instit. - Range sheets Admin work

Offer reversals in situ

2 offers @ same time

Not sure depends on shift

Not sure how or they usually do.

2 sets of keys NOT Both @ some time Allowed

More than 1 down range

Morning shift.

Count 1 at grill 1 enters

and then switch

DOES INTERNAL HELP - NO REASON

NOT REQUIRED

You don’t call in good control

without call

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shown log LT log five 8/10 M/W - morning watch this concern invokes on psych sensitive to the

Beginning count gen pop 105 12 am g American assumes

Evening watch log if I come in Farely 12 is my official time End log w/ to Relieve

12 Am count progress 1230 watch calls cont

ensure safe calls officers make to ensure SAFR

Any body in institution to call for 8AFR

Remember 8/9 - 8/10

1 was in control @ 12

1235 - 1 Shu - Dry CR11

Count wrong

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inmate day cell R/O inmate on SHTU count Realize NOT on R/O count But SHTU count was Adjusted he was NOT in SHTU he was in R/O w/ staff

Count slip 12 Am 2/4 #73 Should have said #72 Ran NEW EI WE CHANGED his info from SHE to RA

I don’t know I wasn’t there in make was NOT IN SHEY

inmate in Eldo NOT psyche then make changes

Grant was actively 72 signatures - can’t recog + Norl

Rearall

12 @ SHT 8/10

Thomas + Norl

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Conversation About R/S inmate U/S SHU I think it was Thomas I spoke to

1234 good vessel count accurate 1249 good inst count - ships

3 am Recall of Control 5 am

TO25 you RARLIER i WAC NOT 1 on Rounds

3 AM is the white witching the Always midnight curtains you can see them out And About

Remember STY Cameras count STY camera is placed you know different I am NOT Fixed on it

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SHT AMPEA BLUEY COUNT 8RR OFFER

UNT count section PPR 1 tells what count should be Your sig - yes Sign init Good verbal + Clear Count 3AM is Control Room Offer

our count psych Unit

Friday Aug 9 2019 document looks like the way she inmate housing - NOT sure if I have access STU offer initiates that

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2 phones in STU desk + wall

Night of 8/10 in the Morning shift Next + thomas

Noseel Mansotso Thomas Always on oturamos os 5 otros 5 days 5 otr

Any to die Mandatro - NO -

Admin it could Answer

Never saw it listro

Select post if NOT Mandatro

I was in Building Pharmacy

STH in shift at least 1 &

Nothing happened All quiet

we talked Nose + Thomas

Explain new shoff from

them - sign of

get there later

They were drunk, yes they

they were drawn to this very were treated

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All working An Additional 8 hrs unusually tired?

they all . they are all exhausted - I document - not fervely night - friends in, mentally exhausted No breaks days off to rest

Any other discussions w/ Thomas + Norel I don’t remember - too much

How many hours of work before dearness too many - nobody gives until this date dies.

there’s no one to blame only good as your training I can’t empty out all the directives - I am resp to ensure they do what supposed to - I work people up.

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OFFICERS didn’t Ask for that to sit there they didn’t Ask for this advice to give - when your Bury tells you you two travel to get up what do you do - there’s tons of posts Empty - Always filling in Medical Example - R/D task R/D shuts down @ 10pm - Asst Antraf Centre - pull out to pick up stack

that night we didn’t even have a sanitation offer . Couldn’t even go to bathroom

” Somebody was going to have to die ” and here you are we all said that we just hoped it wasn’t us.

This is why Nobody exonerates its infallible here we are

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I can do job Ann Hancock it.

Those officers could have enclosed on him inmates don’t serve being watched

Don’t think Dodger Rounds would have saved Repstrain

Maybe yes it could have help all if doing 30 min rounds

Purpose is to see But could still be dead

Cells are dark

You so you tell me

Something out of ordinary positioning actions

Look any # of things

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Attempt on July 23 York Memos

Top on floor fetile swoning just any theatre - start out of cell

open ryes to see us - smoking nothing wrong

closes ryes when makes entail off course he was faking

pro mark around neck took him to psych suicide smok

acting can’t stay on bed only when look @ him told him to stop theater cores thomas three thumbs up

Theaglime attack - I have no idea

THE MAGLIE ATTACK - I have NO IDEA

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MAYBE trying to go to keep. Mark on Neck is worse More pics better behaviour Take my Neek looks bad Right Lightcore wasn’t on Neck @ some pt i got it

Shovls Rounds + Count have Been Done - sure

If they weren’t done it wasn’t because lazy

Thomas always works w/ me

Novel is new And training and making Raven

I don’t think it was Blahant

I have a sense of who my officers are - there 2 would not say right it - I have not spoken to them, Thomas gone - nor / not ok - spoke to her about her feelings

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I’VE BEEN @ institutions w/ suicide have to address feelings

INTERACTION w/ Epstein other than 1st Attempt Asks me for something You supposed to Be sleeping

HEAR ANY OFFICE COMPL -NO NOT MORE THAN OTHERS BY PASS RULES + FELT PROVILIGES

His Attorney encountered it → Epstein

You want days to go smooth you don’t want drama other inmates would want want Austrian hard

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Awareness of Epst. Back to Stay After Psych

  • No, I wasn’t specifically I know where he is NOT

I would have seen - @ some point he was removed - he probably should have been seen when else

Epst like any other innate A → B Never thought about Epstein that Night

Eastern Nervous cell motic -No

APR - NO

typically upon release

that doesn’t occur

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Suicide → Psych ops → No Risk

9/10

psych typo will call mate yes

Does that mean 24/7 Does he always need to be there

No psych has not made it known - cell mate keeper

I know Eps no longer on surprise I assume stu I never really thought about it

Theeas Alot of Rpstem

Awane rec cellmate for post-”they” - psych info just swirling around 1st incident on why high profile

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Somebody requested outside institution

No longer psych watch high profile 1 of most high profile Never said I didn’t worry why tarot him Any different

DID YOU KNOW SHY

“I DAN’T Know Where

he Was”

El Chapo And ??? — NOT DATA

IF HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE CELL MOTE AIRWEL CHECK → Should Be Suicide

Awareness no callmate - no I probably will haunt Ask offers why

No officers are required to report no CRU - NO NOT REG NO OFFER STATUS

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Admin does that they pick cell mates - like inmates of same charge / background

Unaware No CRL mate—No

I DO NOT TOUR THE TIRE NOT REQUIRED TO

NEVER WALKED BY QEll

BOP EMAIL Refuse

Possible None Uncuffed

END: 22005 Hrs

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Testimony, 2019-08-14

Depositions and interviews

Garbled interview record with a Bureau of Prisons officer about count procedures, understaffing, and a high-profile inmate at MCC New York

DOJ Epstein Files, Data Set 9 · Aug. 14, 2019

8/14/2019 SANY © 2025 - 914 gave listening @ 2024 " I have No Eastern to Ler " - asked if any questions - NO Employee BOP 12/11/1994 OP LT 2010? Early 2001/2002 to LT. 1-5 years 2010 Bank O GS9 → GS11 direct & pv. 1 supv staff staff that would under move around on roster - super daily duties resp for their safety and innites safety. Currently on Morning worth they put you where they want shift 12 x 8 usually Release 10x4 EFTA 00000684 EFTA00135086 → Believe At 10 Ans dutres shant At 10 - when you Relieve You start. Daily LT. lrg Daily Activity lrg LT. lrg → Most important things of daily daily…