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Police record · Nov. 6, 2009

FBI interview of an associate on Epstein's seized black book, 2009

FBI 302 of former house manager an associate, who describes the black book, payments to girls, and conditions at Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach home.Machine-written summary

EFTA00129440

FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95)

  • 1 .

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Date of transcription 12/03/2009

ALFREDO RODRIGUEZ, 11349 Southwest 86 Lane, Miami, Florida 33173, telephone , date of birth, social security number . RODRIGUEZ was advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and Assistant United States Attorney . RODRIGUEZ was then provided with the FD-395, advice of rights form, and advised of his rights pursuant to the form by agents at approximately 2:30 PM. RODRIGUEZ signed the written waiver of rights at approximately 2:31 PM. He then provided the following information.

RODRIGUEZ advised that he had been told by GHISLAINE MAXWELL not to discuss what had occurred at the home of his former employer, JEFFERY EPSTEIN, approximately 3-4 months after he was fired from his position as house manager in March 2005. RODRIGUEZ further advised that MAXWELL also told him not to contact anyone else about what had occurred at the home. RODRIGUEZ explained that one of his last contacts with anyone in EPSTEIN’s organization was in 2005 when he contacted a secretary in New York, LESLIE LNU, regarding a letter of reference. In addition, RODRIGUEZ explained that after receiving a subpoena in the civil litigation, he contacted EPSTEIN’s secretary approximately ten (10) months ago, in early 2009. After receiving the subpoena and alerting EPSTEIN’s organization, RODRIGUEZ was then contacted by attorney JACK GOLDBERGER(phonetic) concerning legal representation. RODRIGUEZ advised that he declined representation by GOLDBERGER. He did not alert the attorney to the existence of the black bound book or handwritten notes that agents seized on November 3, 2009.

RODRIGUEZ was asked about the nature, circumstances, and content of the black bound book and handwritten notes agents seized. RODRIGUEZ explained that his first contact with law enforcement regarding the EPSTEIN investigation was with the Palm Beach Police Department and Detective . He explained that he had been subpoenaed by the State Attorney’s Office and that he turned papers over to several years ago. RODRIGUEZ explained that the black bound book that was seized by agents on November 3,2009 was not among the documents he turned over to the detective. RODRIGUEZ advised that he realized or remembered that he had possession of the black book approximately 5-6 months ago and had first came into possession of it during the time he was employed with EPSTEIN between 2004-2005.

Investigation on 11/06/2009 at West Palm Beach, Florida

File # 72-MM-11327

| Date dictated | 11/06/2009 |

| :--- | :--- |

This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency.

73-MM-113327-13

EFTA00129441

FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)

72-MM-11327

Continuation of FD-302 of

On \underline{11/06/2009}, Page

2

In describing the handwritten notes on legal pad paper that were also seized, RODRIGUEZ advised that the content or lists were compiled from other hand written notes that he once had but has since thrown away. RODRIGUEZ noted that some of the names or contacts on the lists were not contained within the black book. RODRIGUEZ explained that the names of girls on the handwritten lists came from his personal notes regarding payments he had made to girls during his employment with EPSTEIN. RODRIGUEZ explained that EPSTEIN would instruct him to go to the bank and withdraw a specified amount of funds. or GHISLAINE MAXWELL would then instruct RODRIGUEZ as to whom to make payment and in what amount.

RODRIGUEZ further indicated that during the period of his employment, girls would be transported to and from the house in private cars, taxis, and on occasion, he would transport the girls himself. He described the taxis as actual marked commercial vehicles with the cab company having an office or base of operation located near Belvedere Road and U.S. Highway 1 in Palm Beach county. He could not recall the actual name of the taxi company.

RODRIGUEZ explained that there were photographs of naked underage girls arranged in collages in the hallway or stair case of EPSTEIN’s home and in EPSTEIN’s closet. He reported seeing naked girls he believed to be underage at the pool area of the home. In addition, RODRIGUEZ described seeing pornographic images of girls on computers in the house. Regarding the computers in the house, RODRIGUEZ explained that after hurricanes in 2004 or 2005, a computer technician or specialist based in Ohio or having some connection to Ohio came to the home and performed repair or maintenance on the computers.

RODRIGUEZ explained that there appeared to be two distinct groups of girls that would frequent the house. One group would stay overnight in the house, and the second group of girls served as masseuses. RODRIGUEZ described what he observed after the massages and what actions he took. He and the housekeeper, (ph) LNU, would clean the area where the massages occurred. This included cleaning massage tables, sex toys, and handcuffs, and disposing of used condoms. RODRIGUEZ explained that the massages often times occurred twice per day. He also noted that (ph) would contact girls whose names were listed in the black bound book on behalf of EPSTEIN. RODRIGUEZ advised he

EFTA00129442

FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)

72-MM-11327

Continuation of FD-302 of ___ , On 11/06/2009 , Page ___

received the black bound book sometime in 2004 when the books were shipped from New York.

RODRIGUEZ explained that JEAN LUC BRUNEL(ph)would also bring girls to the house and would sometimes arrange for girls to be flown in via commercial and private planes. He also relayed that he had discussed the sexual activity with young girls that he observed with the house manager of the Paris, France property, VALSOUN(ph)LNU. RODRIGUEZ also believed JEROME PIERRE, the gardener at the Palm Beach county property was aware of the sexual activity that occurred at the house with young girls.

EFTA00129443

FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95)

  • 1 -

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Date of transcription \underline{12/03/2009}

ALFREDO RODRIGUEZ, Miami,

Florida 33173, telephone (___, date of birth, ___

social security number ___. RODRIGUEZ was advised of the

identity of the interviewing agents and Assistant United States

Attorney ___. RODRIGUEZ was then provided with the

FD-395, advice of rights form, and advised of his rights pursuant

to the form by agents at approximately 2:30 PM. RODRIGUEZ signed

the written waiver of rights at approximately 2:31 PM. He then

provided the following information.

$$ 1, 2, 3 $$

RODRIGUEZ advised that he had been told by GHISLAINE MAXWELL not to discuss what had occurred at the home of his former employer, JEFFERY EPSTEIN, approximately 3-4 months after he was fired from his position as house manager in March 2005. RODRIGUEZ further advised that MAXWELL also told him not to contact anyone else about what had occurred at the home. RODRIGUEZ explained that one of his last contacts with anyone in EPSTEIN’s organization was in 2005 when he contacted a secretary in New York, LESLIE LNU, regarding a letter of reference. In addition, RODRIGUEZ explained that after receiving a subpoena in the civil litigation, he contacted EPSTEIN’s secretary approximately ten (10) months ago, in early 2009. After receiving the subpoena and alerting EPSTEIN’s organization, RODRIGUEZ was then contacted by attorney JACK GOLDBERGER(phonetic) concerning legal representation. RODRIGUEZ advised that he declined representation by GOLDBERGER. He did not alert the attorney to the existence of the black bound book or handwritten notes that agents seized on November 3, 2009.

RODRIGUEZ was asked about the nature, circumstances, and content of the black bound book and handwritten notes agents seized. RODRIGUEZ explained that his first contact with law enforcement regarding the EPSTEIN investigation was with the Palm Beach Police Department and Detective . He explained that he had been subpoenaed by the State Attorney’s Office and that he turned papers over to several years ago. RODRIGUEZ explained that the black bound book that was seized by agents on November 3,2009 was not among the documents he turned over to the detective. RODRIGUEZ advised that he realized or remembered that he had possession of the black book approximately 5-6 months ago and had first came into possession of it during the time he was employed with EPSTEIN between 2004-2005.

Investigation on 11/06/2009 at West Palm Beach, Florida

File # 72-MM-11327

| Date dictated | 11/06/2009 |

| :--- | :--- |

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This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency.

73-MM-11327-13

EFTA00129444

FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)

72-MM-11327

Continuation of FD-302 of

On 11/06/2009 , Page

2

In describing the handwritten notes on legal pad paper that were also seized, RODRIGUEZ advised that the content or lists were compiled from other hand written notes that he once had but has since thrown away. RODRIGUEZ noted that some of the names or contacts on the lists were not contained within the black book. RODRIGUEZ explained that the names of girls on the handwritten lists came from his personal notes regarding payments he had made to girls during his employment with EPSTEIN. RODRIGUEZ explained that EPSTEIN would instruct him to go to the bank and withdraw a specified amount of funds. or GHISLAINE MAXWELL would then instruct RODRIGUEZ as to whom to make payment and in what amount.

RODRIGUEZ further indicated that during the period of his employment, girls would be transported to and from the house in private cars, taxis, and on occasion, he would transport the girls himself. He described the taxis as actual marked commercial vehicles with the cab company having an office or base of operation located near Belvedere Road and U.S. Highway 1 in Palm Beach county. He could not recall the actual name of the taxi company.

RODRIGUEZ explained that there were photographs of naked underage girls arranged in collages in the hallway or stair case of EPSTEIN’s home and in EPSTEIN’s closet. He reported seeing naked girls he believed to be underage at the pool area of the home. In addition, RODRIGUEZ described seeing pornographic images of girls on computers in the house. Regarding the computers in the house, RODRIGUEZ explained that after hurricanes in 2004 or 2005, a computer technician or specialist based in Ohio or having some connection to Ohio came to the home and performed repair or maintenance on the computers.

RODRIGUEZ explained that there appeared to be two distinct groups of girls that would frequent the house. One group would stay overnight in the house, and the second group of girls served as masseuses. RODRIGUEZ described what he observed after the massages and what actions he took. He and the housekeeper, (ph) LNU, would clean the area where the massages occurred. This included cleaning massage tables, sex toys, and handcuffs, and disposing of used condoms. RODRIGUEZ explained that the massages often times occurred twice per day. He also noted that (ph) (ph) would contact girls whose names were listed in the black bound book on behalf of EPSTEIN. RODRIGUEZ advised he

EFTA00129445

FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95)

72-MM-11327

Continuation of FD-302 of ___ , On 11/06/2009 , Page ___

received the black bound book sometime in 2004 when the books were shipped from New York.

RODRIGUEZ explained that JEAN LUC BRUNEL(ph)would also bring girls to the house and would sometimes arrange for girls to be flown in via commercial and private planes. He also relayed that he had discussed the sexual activity with young girls that he observed with the house manager of the Paris, France property, VALSOUN(ph)LNU. RODRIGUEZ also believed JEROME PIERRE, the gardener at the Palm Beach county property was aware of the sexual activity that occurred at the house with young girls.

EFTA00129446

12/2/09 Date Prepared 12/1/09 Date Loaded 12/2/05 Date Loader’s Initials

Accomplishment Involves: (check all that apply) Drugs A.Fugitive Bankruptcy Fraud Computer Firm Database Copulation of Public Official Money Laundering Sub Invest-Ast by PO(s)

Asst. FO(s) A. B. C. D.

Task Force

Assisting Agencies X •

A. Complaint / Information / Indictment X Federal Local International Complaint Date 10/11/09 Check If Civil Rico Complaint Information Date Indictment Date

B. Locate / Areat Federal Local International Subject Priority: A B C Locate Date Arrest Date Subject Resisted Astmt Subject Arrested was Armed

C. Summons Date Federal Local

D. Recovery / Restitution / PELP X Federal Local International Recovery Date Code Amount $ Restoration Date Court Ordered Prefal Diversion Code Amount $ PELP Date Code Amount $

E. Hostages(s) Released Date Released by Terrorist Other Number of Hostages

P. Subject Information - Required for all blocks excluding block D (Recovery(PELP), blocks I, L, and N)

Name Race* Sex Date of Birth Social Security No. (if available)

Alfredo Rodriguez W M

Investigative Assistance or Technique Used

  1. Used, but did not help
  2. Helped, minimally
  3. Absolutely essential
  4. Subt. Invest. Assist. by other FO(s) indicate A, B, C, D for corresponding PO

Pf. Analyst Field Site Fp. Register Plen. Cover Polygraph Search Wormtail Show Money Eng. Field Sp. SOG Asst. Best Team Tech.Agileto Phone Tail Rec UCO Group I UCO Group II Non FIS Lab Ex.

I. Conviction Federal Local International Conviction Code For SF, G, H include Agency Code Felony or Midmeanor Pries or Trial State Judicial District:

G. U.S. Code Violation Required for sections A, B, F and J (Federal Only) Title Section # Counts

H. Sentence Date Sentence Type: In Jail Years Months Suspended: Years Months Probation: Years Months fines: $

I. Disruption/Dismantlement: Disruption Date Dismantlement Date Completion of FD-515a Side 2 Mandatory

J. Civil Rice Matters Date Also complete “Section G” Other Civil Matters Date Judgment Judicial Outcome Amount $ Suspension Years Months

K. Administrative Sanction Date Subject Description Code Type: Length: Suspension Permanent Debenture Year Months

L. Asset Seizure Date Asset Forfeiture Date CATS # Mandatory Circle below one of the three asset forfeiture: Admin, Civil Judicial, or Criminal Do not indicate $ value in Section D

M. Aquacult / Diminisal / Petral Diversion (Circle one) Date

N. Drug Seizures Date Drug Code Weight Code FDIN Do not indicate $ in Section D

O. Child Victim Information Child located / Identified Date Living Decased

Squad supervisor approval (dease initil)

Accomplishment Report (Accomplishment must be reported and loaded into ISRAA within 30 days from date of accomplishment)

Date Prepared Date Loaded Date Loader’s Initials

  • Additional information may be added by attaching another form or a plain sheet of paper for additional entries.

  • See codes on reverse side.

√ R

72-MM-113327-14

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For Further Instructions See: MAOP, Part II, Sections 3-5 thru 3-5.3.

Revised 12-19-2006

PROPERTY CODES

01Cash
02Stocks, Bonds or Negot. Instruments
03General Retail Merchandise
04Vehicles
05Heavy Machinery & Equipment
06Altercraft
07Jewelry
08Vessels
09Art, Antiques or Rare Collections
11Real Property
20All Other

SENTENCE TYPES

CPCapital Punishment
JSJail Sentence
LPLife Penalty
LSLife Sentence
NSNo Sentence (Subject is a Fugitive, Isense, has died, is a Corporation or must pay fine only)
PBProbation
SJSuspension of Jail Sentence
YCYouth Correction Act

PELP CODES

22Counterfeit Stocks/Bonds/Currency/Negotiable Instruments
23Counterfeit/Virated Sound Recordings or Motion Pictures
24Bark Theft Scheme Aborted
25Ransom, Extortion or Brbe Demand Aborted
26Theft From or Fraud Against Government Scheme Aborted
27Commercial or Industrial Theft Scheme Aborted
30All Other

RACE CODES

AAsian/Pacific Islander
BBlack
IIndian/American
UUnknown
WWhite
XNonindividual

ORGANIZED CRIME

SUBJECTS

| | |

| :--- | :--- |

| 1F | Boss |

| 1G | Underboss |

| 1H | Censigliere |

| 1J | Acting Boss |

| 1K | Capodecina |

| 1L | Soldier |

KNOWN CRIMINALS

| | |

| :--- | :--- |

| 2A | Top Ten or L.O. Fugitive |

| 2B | Top Thief |

| 2C | Top Con Man |

FOREIGN NATIONALS

NumberName
3ALegal Alien
3BIllegal Alien
3CForeign Official W/out Diplomatic Immunity
3DU.N. Employee W/out Diplomatic Immunity
3EForeign Student
3FAll Others

TERRORISTS

4AKnown Member of a Terrorist Organization
4BPossible Terrorist Member or Sympathizer

AGENCY CODES

AFOSIAir Force Office of Special Investigations
ACISArmy Criminal Investigative Service
BATFBureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms
BIABureau of Indian Affairs
CBPCustoms and Boater Protection
DCAADefense Commut Audit Agency
DCISDefenso Criminal Investigative Service
DEADrug Enforcement Administration
DOCDepartment of Corrections
DOIDept. of Interior
DHSDept. of Homeland Security
EPAEnvironmental Protection Agency
FAAFederal Aviation Administration
FDAFood and Drug Administration
HHSDept. of Health & Human Services
HUDDept. of Housing & Urban Development
ICEImmigration and Customs Enforcement
IRSInternal Revenue Service
NASANaval Aironautics & Space Admin
NBISNaval NARC Border Interdiction
NCISNaval Criminal Investigative Service
RCMPRoyal Canadian Mounted Police
SBASmall Business Administration
USCGU.S. Coast Guard
USDSU.S. Department of State
USMSU.S. Marshale Service
USPSU.S. Postal Service
USSSU.S. Secret Service
USTRU.S. Treasury
LOCLocal
CITYCity
COUNCountry
STState
OTHROther

JUDGMENT CODES

| | |

| :--- | :--- |

| CJ | Consent Judgment |

| CO | Court Ordered Settlement |

| DF | Default Judgment |

| DI | Dismisital |

| JN | Judgment Nonwithstanding |

| MV | Mixed Verdict |

| SJ | Summary Judgment |

| VD | Verdict for Defendance |

| VP | Verdict for Plaintiff |

SUBJECT DESCRIPTION CODES

UNION MEMBERS

IDPosition
5DPresident
5EVice-President
5FTreasurer
5GSecretary/Treasurer
5HExecutive Board Member
5IBusiness Agent
5JRepresentative
5KOrganizer
5LBusiness Manager
5MFinancial Secretary
5NRecording Secretary
5POffice Manager
5QClerk
5RShop Steward
5SMember
5TTrustee
5UOther

GOVERNMENT SUBJECTS

| 6P, 6G, 6H-Include Agenty Code |

| :--- | :--- |

(6P, 6G, 6H-Include Agenty Code)

6APresidential Appointee
6BU.S. Senator/Staff
6CU.S. Representative/Staff
6DFederal Judge/Magistrate
6EFederal Prosecutor
6FFederal Law Enforcement Officer
6GFederal Employee - GS 13 & Above
6HFederal Employee - GS 12 & Below
6JGovernor
6KLt. Governor
6LState Legislator
6MState Judge/Magistrate

JUDICIAL OUTCOME

AGAgreement
BRBarred/Removed
CCCivil Concept
DCDisciplinary Charges
FIFine
PIPreliminary Injunction
PRTemporary Restraining Order
PSPre-filing Sentiment
RNRestitution
SPSuspension
VRVoluntary Resignation
OTOther

SUBJECT PRIORITY

A Subject warned for crimes of violence (i.e., murder, masslaughter, forcible raps) against another individual or convicted of such a crime in the past five years.

B Subject wanted for crimes involving loss or destruction of property valued in excess of $25,000 or convicted of such a crime in the past five years.

C All other subjects.

DRUG CODES

COCCocaine
HERHerola
HSHHashish
KATKhac
LSDLSD
MARMartijuana
MDMMethylenedioxymethamphetamine
METMethamphetamine
MORMorphine
OPMOpium
OTDOther drugs

DRUG WEIGHT CODES

Formula(s)
GMGram(s)
KGKilogram(s)
LLiter(s)
MLMilliliter(s)
PPlant(s)
DUDosage Unit(s)

Continuation of GOVERNMENT SUBJECTS

6NState Prosecutor
6PState Law Enforcement Officer
6QState - All Others
6RMayer
6SLegal Advisor
6TLocal Judge/Magistrate
6ULocal Prosecutor
6VLocal Law Enforcement Officer
6WLocal-All Others
6XCounty Commissioner
6YCity Councilman

BANK EMPLOYEES

7A Bank Officer

7B Bank Employee

OTHERS

8AAll Other Subjects
8BCompany or Corporation

CHILD PREDATORS

9AChild Care provider
9BClergy
9CAthletic Coach
9DTeacher/Aide
9ELaw Enforcement Personnel
9FCounselor
9GRelative
9HStranger
9IOther

FBI interview of an associate on Epstein's seized black book, 2009

Police and FBI records

FBI 302 of former house manager an associate, who describes the black book, payments to girls, and conditions at Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach home.

DOJ Epstein Files, Data Set 9 · Nov. 6, 2009

EFTA00129440 FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) - 1 . FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 12/03/2009 ALFREDO RODRIGUEZ, 11349 Southwest 86 Lane, Miami, Florida 33173, telephone , date of birth, social security number . RODRIGUEZ was advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and Assistant United States Attorney . RODRIGUEZ was then provided with the FD-395, advice of rights form, and advised of his rights pursuant to the form by agents at approximately 2:30 PM. RODRIGUEZ signed the written waiver of rights at approximately 2:31 PM. He then provided the following information. RODRI…