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Testimony · May 31, 2022

OIG sworn statement of the New York medical examiner on Epstein's autopsy, May 2022

Transcribed OIG sworn statement of the NYC medical examiner explaining autopsy findings supporting a suicide ruling in Jeffrey Epstein's death.Machine-written summary

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DIGITALLY RECORDED

SWORN STATEMENT

OF

OIG CASE #:

2019-010614

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL

MAY 31, 2022

RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES

28632 Roadside Dr., Suite 285

Agoura Hills, CA 91301

Phone: (818) 431-5800

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APPEARANCES:

OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL

OTHER APPEARANCES:

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1 MR. : This is Special Agent

2 . Today is May 31st, 2022. The time is 3:33 p.m., and the recording is now on.

3 My name is I am a Special Agent with the U.S. Department of Justice,

4 Office of the Inspector General, New York Field Office, and these are my credentials. You should be able to see. This interview with New York City Medical Examiner Dr.

5 Did I say that right?

6 MS. : Yes.

7 MR. : Is being conducted as part of an official U.S. Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General investigation.

8 Today’s date is May 31st, 2022. The time is 3:34 p.m. This interview is being conducted via Microsoft Teams Video Conferencing. Also present is DOJ/OIG Special Agent-in-Charge

9 , and Office of Chief Medical Examiner

10 General Counsel, For this interview be recorded by me, Special Agent

11 Could everyone please identify themselves for the record and spell your last name? To start, again, I am DOJ/OIG Special Agent , and that’s spelled -

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MS. □□: I swear.

MR. □□: Thank you. Please let me know if you don’t understand any questions that I ask. I’ll try to repeat it or try to rephrase it for you.

MS. □□: Okay.

MR. □□: We’re going to start with your background, and then get into the details of the autopsy itself. Can you provide us with a summary of your college level education, starting with your bachelor’s degree?

MS. □□: Sure. My bachelor’s degree is in Fine Art, and I completed that at Cooper Union School of Art. I then went back to school for pre-medical studies only, to Columbia University School of Graduate Studies, and completed the requisites, the pre-requisite courses for applying to medical school.

I then went to medical school at SUNY Downstate in Brooklyn, completed that, and I earned an MD. I did a year of residency training in obstetrics and gynecology. Found that that wasn’t the right field for me, so I switched.

I did three years of training in

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the plethora, and the petechiae aren’t quite distributed like his were. His were, like, just all the way from the neck up, he had petechiae. In strangulations, it’s usually just the eyes and mouth, not all of the skin. So, even though they can be seen in homicidal strangulations, they usually have a different pattern then I saw in Mr. Epstein.

MR. : Got it. Thank you. So, what made you come to the conclusion that Jeffrey Epstein’s death was a suicide? Can you walk us through that? I know you mentioned the plethora, the petechiae, and also the ligature itself. What else did you see that made you come to the conclusion as suicide? Sorry.

MS. : So, the autopsy didn’t show really any signs of a struggle. And every single strangulation case I’ve had, even people who were really impaired by intoxicants, they struggled. So, he didn’t have any marks on his hands. He had one abrasion on his arm, which probably was from convulsing when being hanging. But nothing that suggested a struggle. No broken fingernails. No other bruising anywhere.

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He was pretty much pristine, other than the neck and face findings. He also internally didn’t have strap muscle hemorrhages of the neck. That’s bleeding in the lung muscles, in the front of your neck. Nor did he have hemorrhaging in the muscles of the back of his neck. That you see when it’s been an incomplete compression, not a sustained compression like a hanging. So, when I don’t see those, I’m more likely to think hanging than manual strangulation, or even ligature strangulation.

And then, lastly, he did have fractures of his thyroid cartilage and one side of his hyoid bone. These are structures inside your neck. Then the pattern of these fractures was consistent with a hanging. You see a very different pattern of fracturing if there has been a manual compression of the neck versus a sustained pressure of a hanging. And the pattern of his fractures was that of a hanging.

So, even without an investigation, and although I wanted one, just because of the nature of the case, even without an investigation, this case, autopsy wise, looked

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like a very clear-cut hanging.

MR. : Okay. I’m going to break that down just a little bit. The hyoid —

MS. : Sure.

MR. : — the hyoid bone. What is that?

MS. : So - It’s a little warm in my office, sorry - it’s a U-shaped bone that sits between your tongue and your larynx. Sort of horseshoed like this, shaped like this, right here. And its function is to aid in swallowing and phonation, speaking.

Because it’s almost like a little wishbone, when somebody squeezes your neck, it snaps. And if somebody squeezes your neck in a homicidal fashion with un-sustained pressure, it’ll snap near the joints where it was centrally. If your hyoid bone is pressed against your spine by hanging, it fractures at the tips. Maybe one. Maybe both. His is fractured on the tip, on the left. So, that’s why I think his hyoid bone is fractured from hanging and not manual strangulation.

MR. : Okay. And what about the thyroid -? What is the thyroid?

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MS. : Yes. MR. : — pressure on the neck, it’s a different type of damage that happens to the hyoid bone, and also the thyroid cartilage itself, and that’s what you saw in Epstein - Jeffrey Epstein — MS. : Yes. MR. : — and that’s why you came to the determination of suicide? MS. : Yes. All of these things combined, lack of other trauma, beautiful ligature furrow that actually peaked. You know, if it’s a ligature strangulation, they usually don’t peak upward. They’re either straight across, or they peak downward. His peak is upward slightly. He’s got the plethora, the petechiae, the patterns of fracturing, and no other trauma. So, all of that together made this autopsy very, very consistent with a suicidal hanging. MR. : When you say peak, you mean the back of the actual ligature itself, on the back of the neck, going up? MS. : Yeah. I can -. Let me see. I’m going to use my phone cord to show you.

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when you hang yourself, it hangs, and it actually will sometimes make like a peak at the back, right? And sometimes it isn’t fully circumferential. That’s really classic for hanging. So, Mr. Epstein had a peak, it was sort of to the right and behind the ear, and it was not fully circumferential. Totally consistent with a hanging.

MR. : And if it was circumstantial, that means someone strangled him?

MS. : It can, or it can mean that if he has - if you are really good, if what they showed me was his ligature, he didn’t tie a good slip knot, i.e., he didn’t tie a good hangman’s knot. If you tie a good hangman’s knot, it will sometimes be circumferential just because it tightens with your weight. If you don’t, if you have a fixed knot, you slump into the ligature, and it doesn’t -. It isn’t circumferential. So, it depends on the ligature. I have a feeling he wasn’t well versed in the tying of hangman’s knots or good slip knots, and that’s why his isn’t circumferential.

MR. : So, what type of knot did you

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1 see on the noose?

MS. : So, they showed me a noose with what looked like a fixed sort of granny knot. And I’m not convinced that’s even a noose because they told me they thought this was the ligature, but there was a lot of confusion about what the ligature - which thing was actually the ligature. And there was a lot of stuff in that room. But the thing that they said, this is the ligature, it had a fixed knot. Not a slip knot.

MR. : Okay. I kind of jumped, but I’ll come back to the noose part. That’s later on in the interview. You said there was no defensive wounds. So, if someone was to - if there was possibly an attack - me just putting it out there - if it was an attack, there would have been defensive wounds. Where else? Where would you have seen the defensive wounds?

MS. : So, what I tend to see in victims of strangulation is they have lots of debris under their fingernails from fighting, and from trying to pull the strangling person off their own neck. So, you’ll see a bunch of linear abrasions usually on the neck itself,

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and chin, and you’ll see a lot of debris under the nails. He didn’t have either of those things. Those are usually women.

Being that he’s a man, I would have also expected more of sort of the pugilistic type of injuries, because I can’t imagine somebody strangling a man easily without him trying to punch them out. So, I would think there would be some, you know, punch-type things, too, or sort of contusions on the knuckles and stuff. But he didn’t have any of that. None of that stuff.

MR. : Is it possible, I mean, in cases of suicide, like, once someone tries to hang themselves, do they just sit there? I mean, is it possible that they -? Normally with a person trying, you know, last second, change their mind, and try to dig in, and try to stop themselves from dying?

MS. : Well, that really rarely happens. I’ve yet to see that happen. I’ve seen hangings where people simply tie a ligature and slump forward in a chair. It happens pretty quickly. You lose consciousness in, like, less than a minute. And then, at

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their opinion was that they were recent fractures. It was no superimposed trauma.

MR. : So, I’m guessing you were familiar with the July 23rd incident where Mr. Epstein tried to take his life initially?

MS. : Yes. I was.

MR. : And there was a noose found around his neck. We were just trying to get an idea if it’s possible that he sustained injuries during that attempt, that could have also assisted, or made things, you know, the broken hyoid and the thyroid cartilage could have also been because of the fact of the initial attempt? Could it have been broken because of the damage already caused by the July 23rd incident?

MS. : I think probably not, just based on how they appeared. They don’t describe any - the anthropologist - doesn’t describe any healing. So, there would have been, if there is a refracture from a prior fracture, there probably would have been some healing visible, and they didn’t see that.

Also, if he had sustained that kind of trauma the first time, he would have had

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symptoms. He would have, you know, had difficulty talking and swallowing, and they probably would have noted that clinically. So, that might be a question you direct the people who took care of him after the first attempt.

MR. : Okav.

MR. : And just a follow up, doctor. You said that people lose consciousness within a minute. Is that pretty standard, you know, when they attempt to hang themselves? Is that, in your practice, a pretty standard time frame?

MS. : So, where I’m getting that information from isn’t so much my practice as there is a woman in Canada who researched this extensively, and actually had a collection of films of people hanging themselves.

They were judicial hangings. They were in-custody hangings where there were actual cameras on prisoners who had managed to hang themselves. And there were people who actually filmed their own hangings.

And on those films, there is a really consistent pattern of they hang, in about a minute or less, they become limp, and then they start to seize violently. And it’s almost a

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the lip, inside, and I think that these are from resuscitative efforts. They’re pretty commonly seen when there is a mixture of different types of resuscitation, particularly if they’ve used a mask, or if it’s somebody who is - if there was any bystander resuscitation, as well. So, these, to me, appeared resuscitative.

Also, there is no, like, real bruising under these. If I had thought these were from some kind of impact to his face, there would be bruising, and if you look at the rest of the autopsy, I have the inside of his mouth photographed really well, and all you see are the petechiae. There is no big bruising. So, these aren’t impacts. These are consistent with him probably being already dead when they were trying to resuscitate him.

MR. : Okay. And this is, this picture is labeled, “Photos, I.D., Visual 001”. This is the picture that was taken by your office. Right?

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MR. : Yeah. So, it’s a little tough. So, just to give an explanation. Where the picture, the person’s point of view, whoever is standing there, that’s where the door is, the cell door is. Now, if you look in, there is a little window on the door. So, when we got a chance to interview the correctional officer who found Mr. Epstein, he was basically doing feeding, just to give you an understanding, he was coming there early morning, he was doing the feeding time, and he knocked on the cell, and you see the mattress on the floor?

MS. : Yes.

MR. : Mr. Epstein’s legs were sticking out. So, he was actually - and not,

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like, to (Indiscernible *00:26:53) - I mean,

the mattress sticking out. Mr. Epstein was to

the right itself. So, he couldn’t see anything

to the right. He called out to Mr. Epstein.

He didn’t answer. So, he walked in.

And when he walked in, he couldn’t explain

it for us, a mess like this, he explained there

was a lot of linens, a lot of different stuff,

but the mattress was there. And when he found

Mr. Epstein - and I’m going to show you another

picture - Mr. Epstein was to the right, the

part that we can’t see in the initial picture.

MS. ▼: Yup.

MR. ▼: And he was hanging from the

corner over here. So, you see then, he

mentioned that’s part of the noose. And he was

hanging low with his bottom, with his buttocks

off the ground. So, his feet was out, and his

buttocks was off the ground. So —

MS. ▼: Okay.

MR. ▼: — that’s how he found him.

So, basically, he didn’t use a cutter. He

actually pulled. So, I think he used all his

might, he panicked, so the C.O. kind of pulled

the noose, and the noose broke, and Mr. Epstein

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MS. : I believe -. So, I think that it was given to the investigators by the EMS crew who took over the -. Yeah, that’s the picture of how it came to us. It was in the bag. And this is what they brought me.

MR. : So, this is labeled, “Path evidence 006.” And the picture prior to this was, “INV scene 009.” So, this is what they provided to you. And you said this didn’t seem -. This was like a -. You didn’t think this was the piece that cost - that was the noose around his neck?

MS. : Well, I’m asking because in the photo you showed me a piece of stuff hanging, and you tell me that the correction officer pulled and ripped. This thing that they gave me isn’t ripped at all like it would be ripped off of something. It’s ripped to create the strip, but it’s not ripped off. So

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MR. : And if you compare it to the other picture that we saw, if he pulled, if this was around Mr. Epstein’s neck, to me, it seems like there should have been more -.

Like, it should have been tight, tightened up a lot more. Like, he should have been more wrinkled up because it was wrapped around his neck. Right? As a noose. But it doesn’t seem like there was much. It looks like -. Can you explain the difference? By looking at it, what do you think?

MS. : Well, what it looks like to me is that it’s too tidy. And if you tell me that somebody tore him off of the corner -. Like, when you look at that thing that they showed me, it was never clear to me how that suspended him from anything. All right? I could see him putting the looped part around his neck, but I can’t see how this suspended him from anything.

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There is no knot hanging anywhere or anything like this.

And then, that other thing you showed me that’s by the desk apparatus, that is torn, it makes more sense to me because that’s got the tearing that the correction officer remembers. Either one of these, in terms of its shape, could have caused the markings on Mr. Epstein, but this one, this second one that you’re showing me that was never brought to me, looks like a more likely candidate.

MR. □□: Okay. Do you recall -? Do you know if the initial noose that was brought to you, was there any DNA testing, or any kind of testing done on that noose?

MS. □□: I didn’t swab it or anything. We’re instructed not to do that just to submit it. So, I am not sure what happened to it after I bagged it up and gave it to evidence.

MR. □□: When you say submit it, what does that mean?

MS. □□: It means that I bag it up again, and submit it as evidence, and then whoever is investigating, the cops, you guys, whoever it is, they decide whether or not to do

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for INV scene 015. Okay. Anything else, SAC

MR. : Nothing further. Thank you.

MR. : All right. So, a witness,

basically an inmate, told the guard man that he saw the C.O. who entered Epstein’s cell fall to the ground with Epstein when he attempted to move him, or when he pulled him, whatever, he couldn’t describe -. He didn’t give us an exact explanation. But he said that he actually saw the C.O. and Epstein fall to the ground. In your examination, did you see any bruising or anything consistent with any falls that Mr. Epstein might have taken?

MS. : Nope.

MR. : Okay.

MS. : But if he landed on top of the guy, I wouldn’t have seen much.

MR. : Okay. And if he didn’t, if he landed on the floor, would there have been bruising being the fact that he was already - if he was already dead at this point. Would there have been bruising on his body?

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been sort of dried, not hemorrhagic abrasions. Particularly if the guy pulling him was a big guy and landed on top of him. That could -. Even a dead body, if you scrape it across a concrete floor like that, you’re going to get some scraping on the skin. I wouldn’t see bruising, but I would see scraping most likely.

MR. : And he mentioned that he didn’t use a cutter. Normal practices, if you see somebody hanging, they use a cutter to cut

MR. : He didn’t use a cutter. He just yanked on it. Is it possible why him yanking on the rope, trying to yank the rope off, he could have caused - the C.O. - could have caused any of the damage on Mr. Epstein’s neck?

MS. : He certainly could have augmented it. I see it in hangings without that, but if he was pulling Epstein against the ligature, and it snapped, that could have augmented any damage that was already there, or even created some of it. Particularly, if he did a short, sharp pull. It could have.

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1would have been on?But there was nothing in his system at all?
2MS.: Nothing in his system at all.
3MR.: All right.
4MS.: -- out there. Those are often targeted testing that I need to request. I saw what was in the cell. There were vitamins.
5There was Tylenol that was not opened.Those things, the Tylenol will show up on our regular testing. As well as, like, the other stuff he was taking. I think he was taking, like, a steroid, as well. None of that showed up.
6MR.: And in those substances, is it safe to say that it would not have contributed to his death?
7MS.: Correct.
8MR.: Yeah.
9MR.: I just have a few more questions. And before I go. All right. Do you recall that Mark Epstein -? Did you ever deal with a Mark Epstein? Jeffrey Epstein's brother.
10MS.: I did.

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MR. : Okay. Do you recall that he hired his own medical examiner to be also present for the autopsy?

MS. : Oh, yeah. Yup.

MR. : Do you remember the name of that medical examiner?

MS. : Yeah. So, that was Dr. Michael Baden.

MR. : Okay. And they mentioned, they told the OIG that, when they spoke with you, that you needed information from the correctional officer who found Jeffrey Epstein, before you could make the determination on cause of death, and instead of waiting on that information, you actually moved forward and made a determination anyway as suicide.

MS. : So, what I did was, we attempted to get the information from the correctional officer, and I also, I wanted to go and see the cell. They wouldn’t allow that. I wanted to see some film footage. I was allowed to do that.

So, there were a couple of different things I wanted to do before I could ascertain whether or not -. You know, and mostly, in

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MR. : Perfect. Okay. Okay.

MS. : Excuse me.

MR. : Is there anything -? Is it something that C.O.s could have said to you, if you ever got a chance to interview them, that could possibly affect your conclusion on cause of death?

MS. : I would have been a little bit more circumspect if there had been another inmate in there with him who had made threats. But even knowing that, that would have been more thoroughness, because this doesn’t look anything like a strangulation. So, it would have been more for completeness rather than a big factor in making the determination.

MR. : Okay. Based on all the —

MR. : So, the —

MR. : — go ahead. Sorry.

MR. : — sorry. Just to follow up o that. So, in the instance, you know, hypothetical, that there was another inmate in that cell, is what you saw possibly consistent, or would be consistent with, like, this other inmate helping or assisting this person hanging themselves? Would that be a possibility?

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MS. Absolutely. That’s one thing that we definitely do as medical examiners. It’s a very important part of my job, is conveying the findings to families. The only times that I do not do that is when it’s a homicide, for sure, and there is an ongoing investigation, or a case that’s suspicious for homicide, then I don’t talk to family members because sometimes they’re the perpetrators. But when it’s as clear cut as this, I always talk to the families. As much as they need to talk to me.

MR. □: Sure. That’s all I had, □.

MR. : That’s all that I have, too. Is there anything else? Any information you think that might help us in our investigation, or you think wasn’t shared in the report, that might be useful to us? You want to share with us?

MS. : No. I think I put everything relevant in the report, to make it as clear as possible.

MR. : Is there any questions that you think I should have asked that I didn’t ask

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MS. : Let me just say, it’s going to be very hard to determine that. I mean, all I can tell you, I mean, it’s sort of more a presumption of regularity. If we issued a certified copy of the medical examiner case file, that means it’s been really carefully vetted and that it has been certified to be a true and exact copy of that file. I am not going to be able to give you any information, on this call, that would be any different from that.

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it. It came to you from our Records Department, but I specifically remember approving the release by the Records Department, and it is clear that, you know, that we okayed it, and that it came from the Office of Chief Medical Examiner. And as you know, there is that little red sort of self-protective note that I okayed the release by whoever put the note there. So, it seems to me that this looks exactly like what we would have issued to you. There is no way for me to verify that, looking at it, and I couldn’t even do that on, you know, a giant plasma screen, either.

MR. □: Understood. That’s all.

That’s all. As long as you can say that this is the record. SAC □, do you have anything else on that?

MR. □: No. I appreciate that. I

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CERTIFICATE

I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General in the matter of:

Interview of

Brianna Rose Burton, Transcriber

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Approved - 51:7

Approving - 52:9

Area - 32:3, 34:11

Aren’t - 8:7, 16:1,

28:16

Arm - 16:21

Arms - 32:2, 47:12

Arrive - 11:16

Art - 5:13, 5:14

Ascertain - 43:24

Assigned - 11:18,

11:19, 11:21, 11:24,

45:2, 45:15

Assisted - 25:11

Assist - 12:10,

47:11

Assisting - 12:13,

46:24, 47:7

Associated - 15:13

Attack - 22:16,

22:17

Attempt - 25:10,

25:14, 26:5, 26:10,

48:2

Attempted- 39:7,
43:18

Attorney - 50:14,

53:18

Augmented - 40:20,

40:23

August - 10:25

Autopsies - 8:21,

9:3, 9:13, 9:16, 10:1

Autopsy - 5:9, 8:18, 8:21, 10:23, 10:24,

11:18, 11:25, 12:11,

12:14, 13:14, 16:16,

17:25, 20:19, 24:21,

43:3, 44:5

27:7, 28:13, 37:14,

Aware - 11:12,

11:14

Awful - 9:6

Bachelor’s - 5:11,

5:12

Back - 5:14, 7:21,

7:24, 9:21, 14:23,

17:6, 20:22, 20:23,

21:3, 22:13, 32:4,

Background - 5:8,

8:10

34:16, 53:8, 53:19,

53:24

Baden - 43:8

Bag - 33:5, 36:22

Bagged - 36:19

Bar - 19:19

Bear - 11:3, 27:13,

50:10

Basis - 6:23

38:9, 46:16, 47:20

Based - 13:13,

40:2, 46:15

Behind - 21:6

Beautiful - 20:11

13:15, 25:18, 27:1,

Benignly - 47:2

Big - 8:5, 28:15,

11:12, 26:24

Become - 7:7,

Bit - 18:3, 35:2,

Blood - 15:1

Blanking - 12:21

46:8, 50:20

Bleeding - 17:4

Bleeds - 15:4

Blotchy - 29:16

Blonchyness - 29:10

Body - 39:23, 40:4,

41:3

Board - 6:24

18:8, 18:18, 18:22,

Bone - 17:15, 18:5.

19:10, 20:4, 24:13

Bones - 24:14,

24:20

Both - 18:20, 19:15,

51:10

Bottom - 31:17

Box - 19:5

Break - 7:22, 18:2,

19:14, 24:18

Broke - 31:25

Broad - 45:20

Bribe - 48:3

Broken - 16:24,

24:12, 25:12, 25:14

Brother - 42:24

Brooklyn - 5:20, 6:4, 6:11

Brought - 32:14,

33:5, 36:10, 36:13

Bruising - 16:25, 27:9 28:9 28:12

27:9, 28:9, 28:12,

28:15, 39:13, 39:21,

39:23, 39:25, 40:7,

41:2

Bunch - 22:24

Burst - 15:2

Business - 48:24

Butterfly - 19:7,
19:9

Buttocks - 31:17,

Bystander - 28:6

Call - 47:5, 50:21,

51:24

31:19

Called - 31:4, 32:14,

44:4, 44:6

Calls - 48:11, 48:18

C

Cameras - 26:19

Canada - 26:14

31:12, 35:25, 45:9,

Can’t - 23:6, 24:6,

Candidate - 36:11

47:10, 47:13

Capillaries - 15:2

Care - 26:5

Carefully - 51:20

Cartilage - 17:14,

19:1, 19:15, 20:4,

25:12

Case - 11:7, 11:10, 16:18, 17:24, 17:25,

24:7, 41:19, 44:1,

48:25, 49:7, 51:19

Cases - 10:7, 10:10,
23:14

Catch - 53:20

Cause - 9:17, 27:22,

43:14, 46:6, 47:22,

47:24

Caused - 25:15, 36:8, 37:9, 37:13

38:8, 38:12, 40:16,

18:17

40:17

Cell - 30:6, 30:8,

30:14, 30:21, 39:6,

42:9, 43:20, 46:22

Center - 8:14, 9:25

Centrally - 18:18,

19:21

Certain - 7:1

Certainly - 9:9,

40:19, 52:4, 52:6,

53:7

Certified - 6:24, 51:19, 51:21

Chance - 30:5,

Chair - 23:23

30:16, 46:5

Change - 23:18

Charge - 3:18, 4:3

Check - 11:1, 41:18

Chief - 3:19, 4:8,

4:12, 6:6, 6:8, 6:14,

6:19, 7:4, 52:12

Chin - 23:1

Chosen - 11:25,

12:3

Circulation - 14:24

Circumferential - 2

1:4, 21:7, 21:16,

21:20, 21:24

Circumspect - 46:9

Circumstantial - 21

:9

City - 3:9, 4:7, 4:11,

8:6, 10:14

Clarify - 10:13

Classic - 21:4

Clawing - 24:7

Clinically - 26:3

Close - 34:24

Cloth - 37:9

Coarse - 48:2

Collection - 26:15

College - 5:10

Columbia - 5:16

Combined - 20:11

Come - 6:13, 9:21,
11:23, 16:10, 16:15,
22:13, 53:8, 53:24

Coming - 7:4, 30:19

Command - 7:21

Compare - 35:7

Commonly - 28:3

Complete - 7:11,

24:8

Completed - 5:13,
5:17, 5:20

Completeness - 46:

14

Completing - 6:16

Compression - 17:

8, 17:9, 17:19

Conclusion - 9:3,

16:10, 16:15, 46:6

Concrete - 40:5

Conduct - 8:18

Conducted - 3:12, 3:16, 8:22, 9:13, 10:1, 10:23, 24:20

Conducting - 8:13,

8:17, 8:20

Conferencing - 3:1

7

Confirm - 50:10

Consistent - 13:24,
15:8, 15:10, 17:17,

19:24, 19:25, 20:20,

Confusion - 22:7

Conjunctiva - 14:3

Consciousness - 2
3:24, 26:8

21:8, 26:23, 28:16,

37:13, 39:13, 46:22,

46:23, 47:2

Contraband - 41:24

Contributed - 42:16

Contusions - 23:10

Conveying - 49:4

Convinced - 22:4,
44:18
Convulsing - 16:22
Cooper - 5:13

Cops - 36:24

Copy - 51:19, 51:22

Cord - 20:25, 45:16,

45:17, 45:20

Corner - 31:15,

32:13, 35:20

Correction - 10:15,

32:15, 33:15, 36:6

Correctional - 8:14,

30:17, 43:12, 43:19

Cost - 33:11

Couldn’t - 31:3,

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31:6, 39:9, 52:18

Counsel - 3:20, 4:7

County - 6:4, 6:11,

8:3, 9:8, 10:11

Course - 48:23

12:19, 13:11, 29:24,

43:23

Couple - 8:25, 9:19,

Courses - 5:18

Cover - 42:4, 51:1

CPR - 32:8, 32:16

CPAP - 45:1, 45:14

Create - 33:19

Created - 40:24

Credentials - 3:7

Credits - 7:1

Crew - 33:3

Custody - 10:10,
26:18

Cut - 15:1, 18:1,

27:16, 40:10, 44:10,

47:17, 49:10

Cuts - 27:9, 27:25,

41:2

Cutter - 31:22, 40:9,

40:10, 40:13

D

Damage - 20:3,

24:19, 25:15, 40:17,

40:23

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Dane - 8:3, 9:8,

10:11

Date - 3:15

Day - 11:7, 11:8,

11:10, 11:15, 11:16,

44:4

Dead - 28:17, 39:22,

40:4

Deal - 9:12, 42:23

| Death - 4:15, 8:16, 9:17, 11:13, 11:15, |

16:11, 42:17, 43:14,

46:7, 47:22, 47:23,

47:24, 47:25, 48:3,

48:13

Death/ - 38:13

Deaths- 9:12, 9:24,
10:2, 10:18

Debris - 22:22, 23:1

Deceased - 29:5

Decide - 36:25

Deep - 14:18

Defensive - 22:15, 22:18, 22:19, 41:4

Definitely - 13:17, 45:22, 49:2

Degree - 5:11, 5:12

Department - 3:5,

3:13, 10:14, 52:8,

52:10

Describe - 25:19,

25:20, 39:9

Depiction - 29:8

Described - 29:9

Detected - 41:22

Desk - 36:4

Detention - 9:24

Determination9:1
7, 20:9, 43:13,

43:16, 46:15, 48:20

Determine - 24:23,

51:16

Difference - 35:16

Different-8:8,16:7,
17:18,20:3,28:4,

31:8, 37:24, 43:23,

51:24

Difficulty - 26:2

Dig - 23:18

Disadvantage - 50:

20

Discoloration - 14:

23

Distributed - 16:2

Doctor - 7:7, 9:23, 24:12, 26:7, 29:7

Document - 52:2

Documents - 51:13

Doesn’t - 21:19.

25:19, 32:18, 35:14,

37:17, 42:4, 46:12,

47:9

DOJ/OIG - 3:18,

3:24, 4:14, 4:19

Door - 30:14, 30:15

Double - 41:18

Downstate - 5:20

Downward - 20:15

2:0 4:0 4:22

10:21, 12:6, 43:7,

51:11, 53:13

Dragged - 32:2, 32:4, 32:7

Dumb - 14:9

Ear - 21:6

Ducking - 48:15

Dried - 40:1

Dying - 23:19

Earned - 5:21

Earn - 7:7

Earlier - 29:9, 37:8

E

Education - 5:10

Efforts - 28:2

Easily - 23:7, 38:7

Early - 30:19

Ending - 54:11

English - 14:11

Elsewhere - 7:20

Entrance - 34:10

EMS - 33:2

Envelope - 24:4

Entire - 7:3

Entered - 39:6

11:18, 16:11, 30:24,

Epstein’s - 8:21,

35:9, 38:12, 39:6,

Estimate- 8:23,
9:2,9:16

40:17, 42:23, 47:22,

48:3

Events - 4:15

Everyone - 3:22,

4:13

Everything- 14:8,
32:22,49:21, 50:7,

52:3, 54:8

| Evidence | 27:2 |

| :--- | :--- |

Examination - 13:1

6, 27:7, 39:12

38:24

33:7, 36:19, 36:23,

Examiner - 3:9,

3:19, 4:8, 4:11, 4:12,

6:6, 6:9, 6:15, 6:20,

7:5, 43:2, 43:6,

51:19, 52:12

Examiners - 49:2

Examiner's - 7:17,
8:3

Exhibits - 50:7

Expected - 23:5

Expecting - 11:15

Explain - 31:6,

35:16

Explains - 47:19

Explained - 31:7

Explanation - 30:5,

Extensively - 26:15

Fabric - 45:23

30:11, 39:10

Eyes - 15:5, 16:5

Face - 17:2, 28:11,

29:5, 29:11

Facility - 9:25

Facial - 14:2

F

Fall - 39:6, 39:11

Families - 49:4,

49:11

Falls - 39:13

Family - 28:25,

48:11, 48:19, 48:24,

49:8

Far - 41:1

Fashion - 18:16,

Federal - 10:18

Favor - 14:5

Feeding - 30:18,

30:20

19:22

Feel - 53:18

Feeling - 21:21

Feet - 31:18

Fell - 32:1

Fellowship - 6:2,
6:4, 6:17, 7:15

Field - 3:6, 4:4, 5:23

Fight - 24:5

Fighting - 22:22

File - 51:20, 51:22

Film - 43:21

Filmed - 26:21

Films - 26:16, 26:22

Final - 6:1

Find - 54:3

Findings - 17:2,

49:4

Fine - 5:13, 52:5, 54:2
Fingernails - 16:24,
22:22

Fixed - 21:18, 22:3,

First - 25:25, 26:5

Florence - 3:20, 4:6

Fluride - 14:1

Follow - 26:7, 37:7,

46:19, 48:10, 53:22

Footage - 43:21

Forensic - 6:2

Formally - 29:1

Forward - 23:23, 43:15

30:17, 31:9, 31:21,

41:16, 43:12

Fracture - 25:22

19:22, 19:15, 19:18,

24:13, 24:24

Fractures - 17:13, 17:16, 17:21, 18:19.

19:20, 24:25, 25:2

Fracturing - 17:18,

20:18

Frame - 26:11

Free - 53:18

Frequently - 14:4

14:1, 14:14, 20:12,

Front - 11:1, 17:5,

41:19

Furrow - 13:24,

Fully - 21:3, 21:7,

44:20

Function - 18:11

45:19, 45:22

Furrows - 45:21

Further - 39:3,

53:12

G

Gap - 53:6

Gathered - 27:3

Gave - 33:17, 34:1, 36:19, 44:16

15:2, 15:21, 15:25,

General - 3:6, 3:14,

3:20, 4:7

Get - 5:8, 11:17,

Give - 8:22, 9:16,

30:4, 30:11, 30:18,

Gets - 19:12

25:8, 40:5, 43:18

Giant - 52:19

34:23, 39:9, 51:23

Given - 33:2, 45:2, 45:14

41:22, 42:21, 43:20,

46:18

46:18

Good - 21:12,

Got - 16:9, 20:16,

21:14, 21:15, 21:22,

21:14, 21:15, 21:22,

29:8, 44:24, 54:8

Graduate- 5:16
Graduated- 7:8

Granny - 22:3, 38:4,

38:18

Green - 51:8

Ground - 31:18,

31:19, 32:1, 39:7,

Guard - 39:5

Guess - 24:18,

41:15

Guessing - 25:3

Guys - 36:24, 50:11,

51:10

Gynecology - 5:22

Hand - 4:24, 12:16

Hands - 16:21

Hang - 19:13, 21:1,

23:15, 26:10, 26:19,

26:23, 41:19, 47:11

Hangings - 14:4,
23:22, 26:17, 26:18,
26:21, 40:20

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Hangman’s - 21:15,

Hangs - 21:1

21:22, 37:23, 38:20

Happy - 48:19

Hard - 51:16

Head - 14:7

Healing - 25:20,
25:23

Helping - 46:24

Help - 49:17

2, 14:25, 15:3, 17:3,

Hemorrhages - 14:

Hemorrhagic - 40:1

29:18

Hemorrhaging - 17:

6

He’s - 20:16, 23:4

Hey - 53:16, 53:24

High - 44:2

Hired - 43:2

Homicidal - 16:6,
18:16
Homicide - 49:6,
49:8

Horns - 19:8

Honestly - 10:3

Horseshoed - 18:10

Hospital - 6:4

Hundred - 9:9, 9:10,

27:1, 32:22

| - 3:20, 4:5, |

50:14, 50:17, 50:19,

4:6, 10:13, 10:17,

50:25, 51:4, 51:7,

53:5, 53:18, 54:1,

51:15, 52:4, 52:6,

18:5, 18:18, 18:22,

54:3, 54:8

19:10, 20:4, 24:13,

| Hyoid | 17:14, 18:3 |

| :--- | :--- |

25:12

Hypothetical - 46:2

1

l’d - 10:4

Ideally - 44:14

I’ll - 5:4, 9:21, 22:13

Images - 50:21

Imagine - 23:6

Impact - 28:11

Impacts - 28:16

Impaired - 16:19

Important - 49:3

Incomplete - 17:8

Indication - 24:14

Indiscernible - 10:1

4, 29:2, 31:1, 34:5,

41:9, 47:8, 50:18,

53:1, 53:2

Initially - 11:22,

12:3, 25:5

31:12, 34:9, 36:13,

38:25

Initial - 25:14,

Injuries - 23:6,

25:10

Inmate - 4:15, 8:14,

8:15, 39:5, 46:10,

46:21, 46:24, 47:2

Inside - 17:15, 19:7, 28:1, 28:13, 45:16

Inspector - 3:6,

3:14

Instructed - 36:17

Intentional - 24:1

Internally - 17:2

Interview - 3:8,

3:16, 3:21, 4:18,

4:22, 4:25, 22:14,

30:16, 46:5, 53:20,

53:25

Intoxicants - 16:19

INV - 30:1, 33:8,

34:7, 34:14, 34:24,

39:1, 44:25

Investigating - 36:24

Investigation - 3:14

, 4:14, 17:22, 17:25,

49:7, 49:17

Investigators - 33:2

Irrelevant - 37:3

Island - 9:7

Isn’t - 21:3, 21:19,

21:23, 26:13, 33:17

Issued - 51:18, 52:17

It’ll - 18:17

I’ve - 7:2, 9:8, 16:18,

45:20

23:21, 24:7, 27:3,

Jeffrey - 4:15, 8:15,

Judicial - 26:17

Joints - 18:17

48:3, 48:22

Julie - 12:18

Job - 7:20, 49:3

20:6, 32:15, 42:23,

Jumped - 22:12

Jump - 8:5

July - 25:4, 25:16

Justice - 3:5, 3:13

King’s - 6:3, 6:11

Kareen - 12:6

Knocked - 30:21

Kill - 44:3

Kidding - 8:7

21:16, 21:18, 21:25,

22:4, 22:11, 36:1,

38:16, 38:18, 38:19,

37:22, 38:2, 38:9,

Knot - 21:14, 21:15,

38:20, 38:21, 38:25

38:5, 38:22

21:23, 38:3, 38:4,

Knots - 21:22,

Knowing - 46:11

  • 3:9, 4:10

Labeled - 28:20,

Knuckles - 23:10

30:1, 33:6, 34:7

L

Lack - 20:11

Landed - 39:17,

Larynx - 18:9, 19:5

39:20, 40:3

Lastly - 17:13

Later - 22:13

Leave - 7:19

Laying - 34:21, 35:1

Lee - 12:18

Left - 18:21, 34:17

Legs - 30:24, 47:12

Let’s - 11:4

Letter - 51:2

Level - 5:10

Licenses - 6:23

Ligature - 13:24,14:14,16:13,17:11,20:12,20:13,20:22,21:13,21:19,21:21,22:6,22:7,22:8,22:10,23:23,32:14,34:1,40:22,44:17
Liked-44:15

Ligature - 13:24,

Linear - 22:25

Limp - 26:24

Long - 52:1, 52:22

Linens - 31:8

Look - 10:4, 24:23,

Local - 10:5

Looked - 17:25,

22:3

44:6, 46:12, 47:9

28:12, 30:14, 35:21,

Lip - 27:17, 28:1

38:3, 38:4, 38:5,

Looking - 35:16,

52:18

Looped - 35:24

Lot - 9:7, 22:6, 22:8,

Lose - 23:24, 26:8

23:1, 31:8, 35:12,

41:7, 48:5, 48:14

Low - 31:17

Lots - 22:21

Luck - 54:8

Lung - 17:4

  • 3:1, 3:4,

3:22, 3:25, 41:11,

45:9, 47:17, 49:14.

50:5, 54:10

M

Machine - 45:1, 45:14

Maintain - 6:22

Madison - 8:2, 8:6

Make - 21:2, 43:13.

49:22, 50:11, 51:11

Making - 33:25,

41:8, 46:15

Man - 23:4, 23:7,

39:5

17:19, 18:23, 19:19

Many - 8:21, 9:2, 9:15

Mark - 42:22, 42:23

Marked - 13:23

Markings - 36:8,

38:8

Marks - 16:20, 37:10, 37:13

Mask - 28:5

Material - 37:9,

37:12

Mattress - 30:21, 31:2, 31:9

MCC - 8:13, 9:25

MD - 5:21

MDC - 9:24

Means - 14:16,

21:10, 36:22, 51:20

Measles - 29:17

Mechanism - 15:1

Media - 48:11, 48:15

48:15

Medication - 42:5

Medications - 41:25

Members - 48:11,

48:24, 49:8

Mess - 31:7

Michael - 43:8

Metropolitan - 8:14, 9:24

Microsoft - 3:17

Missing - 51:13

Mixture - 28:3

Mm - 13:12, 24:16,

37:25, 40:12

Morgue - 12:12,
12:19, 13:4

Morning - 11:7,

30:20

Mortuary - 28:24

Mouse - 32:5

Move - 39:8, 41:12

Moved - 43:15

Mouth - 14:3, 15:5, 16:5. 28:13

Much - 17:1, 26:13,

35:15, 39:18, 49:11,

53:14

17:6

Muscle - 17:3

N

Muscles - 17:4,

Mute - 4:1

Nails - 23:2

Names - 12:15

Near - 18:17

Needed - 43:11

Naturally - 47:7

Neglecting - 47:3

New - 3:6, 3:8, 4:4, 4:7, 4:12, 8:5, 8:15, 10:6, 10:7

Noose - 22:1, 22:2, 22:5, 22:13, 25:7, 31:16, 31:25, 32:25, 33:11, 34:20, 34:25, 35:14, 36:13, 36:15, 37:10, 37:18, 37:23, 45:18

Non - 24:8

Nooses - 37:24

Nor - 17:5

Normal - 40:9,

48:23

Normally - 23:16

Note - 11:5, 52:14,

52:15

Noted - 26:3

Notes - 10:25

Notice - 34:10,

34:17, 45:1

OB - 7:13

Observed - 27:7

Obstetrics - 5:22
Occur - 14:25

Office - 3:6, 3:7,

4:11, 6:5, 6:8, 6:14,

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6:19, 7:4, 18:8,

28:22, 30:2, 37:17,

51:8, 52:12

Officer7:178:4
30:1732:1533:16

36:6, 43:12, 43:19

Official- 3:13, 4:14
Often- 42:7, 48:24

Okayed - 52:11,

52:14

OIG - 43:10

Old - 24:24

One - 7:19, 12:19,

13:2, 13:5, 16:21,

17:14, 17:23, 18:20,

32:23, 36:7, 36:9,

38:6, 38:11, 38:12,

38:16, 38:24, 44:23,

49:1, 50:16

Ongoing - 49:6

Opened - 42:10

Opinion - 25:1,
47:21

Opposed - 27:3

Otherwise - 47:12

Order - 6:24, 37:1

Outer - 32:3

Overhand - 38:19

Own - 22:24, 26:21,

27:4, 43:2

P

Packed - 38:24

Panicked - 31:24

Particularly - 28:4,

40:2, 40:24

Pathology - 6:1,

Path - 33:6

Patient - 53:23

Pathology - 6:1, 6:2, 6:8, 6:13, 7:11, 7:14

Pattern - 16:8,

17:16, 17:18, 17:21,

26:23

Patterns - 20:17

Peak - 20:14, 20:15,

20:16, 20:21, 21:2,

21:5

Peaked - 20:12

23:22, 24:5, 26:4,

26:8, 26:16, 26:20,

27:2, 44:3, 48:18

Percent - 27:1, 32:22

Perfect - 46:1,

53:10

Perform - 32:8

Perpetrators - 49:9

Person - 11:23,

22:23, 23:17, 44:2,

46:24

11:24, 13:2, 15:22,

Person’s - 30:12

Petechiae - 14:21,

16:4, 16:13, 20:17,

14:24, 15:15, 16:1,

28:15, 29:5, 29:9,

29:12

Petechial - 14:2,
15:2

Phonation - 18:12

Phone - 20:25,

50:21

Photo - 33:14

Photographed - 28:

14

Photographer - 12:

17

Photographers - 12

:13

Photographs - 30:9

Photos - 27:24,

28:20

Picture - 27:12,

28:20, 28:21, 29:4,

29:25, 30:12, 31:11,

31:12, 32:4, 33:4,

33:7, 34:3, 34:9,

34:14, 34:17, 35:8,

38:24, 44:23

Pictures - 29:24, 34:4, 37:6, 37:11

Piece - 32:12,

33:11, 33:14, 37:20

Pincher - 19:20

Pinpoint - 14:24,

15:3, 29:17

Place - 4:22, 27:9

Plasma - 52:19

Plenty - 9:9, 45:20

Plethora - 14:22,

15:16, 15:18, 15:19

16:1, 16:13, 20:17

Practice - 26:11,
26:13

Prescribed - 41:25

Possibility - 46:25

Pressed - 18:18,

19:13

Practices - 40:9

Prescription - 42:5

19:25, 20:2, 29:21

Pre - 5:15, 5:17

Present - 3:18,

43:3, 50:10

Pressure - 15:20, 15:25, 17:20, 18:16,

Presumption - 51:1

Prior - 8:12, 8:17,

Pristine - 17:1

8:20, 9:13, 11:15,

11:16, 25:21, 33:7

8

Prisoner - 9:12

Prisoners - 26:19

12:8, 12:23, 13:9,

Problem - 8:12,

24:10, 52:1

Professional - 47:2

1

Profile - 44:2

Protective - 52:14

Provide - 4:17, 5:9

Pugilistic - 23:5

Provided - 30:1,

32:24, 33:9

Pull - 22:23, 40:25

Pulled - 31:23,

Pulling - 40:2, 40:21

31:24, 32:15, 33:16,

35:8, 39:8

Punch - 23:8, 23:9

Purple - 14:22

35:24

Putting - 22:16,

Quick - 50:5, 53:20,

53:25

24:3, 32:10

Quickly - 23:24,

Raise - 4:23

R

Rash - 29:17

Rarely - 15:22,
23:20, 24:6

Rather - 46:14

23:20, 24:6

Realized - 44:22

Recent - 24:25,

25:1

Reasons - 38:6

Received - 37:19,

48:13

Reach - 53:19

Recognize - 29:25,

30:2

Recertify - 6:25

Recently - 7:23

Recording - 3:3,

54:12

Recorded - 3:21

Records - 51:12, 52:7, 52:9

Recount - 13:21

Red - 29:10, 52:13

Refracture - 25:21

Regular - 42:11

Refusing - 48:17

Regularity - 51:18

Release - 52:9,

Rely - 30:8

Remain - 32:16

Remembers - 36:6

Report - 49:18,

49:22, 50:6, 51:6,

53:2

Reporting - 14:8

Reproducible - 27:

1

Request - 42:8,

47:3

Requisites - 5:17

Requisite - 5:17

Researched - 26:14

, 27:4

Residency - 5:21, 6:3

Resulted - 9:3, 9:17

Resuscitate - 28:18

Resuscitation - 27:

23, 28:4, 28:6

Resuscitative - 28:

2, 28:8

Ripped - 33:16,

33:17, 33:18, 33:19

Room - 22:9, 45:16

Rope - 40:11, 40:15,

45:25

Rotated - 13:4

Rotation - 11:19

Rough - 8:22

Ruling - 48:3

Rumors- 48:6
- 3:18, 4:2

S

SAC - 4:1, 8:9, 9:22,

24:10, 27:5, 28:10

| SAC - 4:1, 8:9, 9:22 |

| :--- |

24:10, 37:5, 38:10,

39:1, 41:9, 48:7,

50:4, 52:23, 53:10

Safe - 42:16

Safe - 42:16

Saw - 16:8, 20:5,

42:8, 46:22

Scene - 30:1, 33:8,

34:7, 34:24, 35:1,

39:1, 44:25

School - 5:14, 5:15, 5:16, 5:18, 5:19, 7:9

Scrape - 40:4

Screen - 52:19

Seeing - 45:4

23:17, 36:9, 37:18

Scraping - 40:6,

40:7

Scroll - 51:10

Second - 7:20,

Seen - 16:6, 22:19,

23:22, 24:7, 28:3.

39:18, 39:25, 45:20

Seize - 24:2, 26:25

Self - 52:13

Sent - 6:21, 51:2,

Set - 34:4

51:5, 52:2

Service - 7:22

Series - 38:21

Shaking - 47:5

Several - 9:10,

37:11

Shape - 36:7

Shaped - 18:8,

18:10, 19:6

Share - 27:12,

Shared - 49:18

Sharp - 40:25

49:19, 53:17

She’s - 50:15

29:23, 31:10, 34:3,

Showed - 21:13, 22:2, 33:14, 35:21,

34:9, 42:11, 44:23,

45:3, 50:9

36:3, 42:14

Showing - 28:24,

36:10, 37:20

Signed - 50:16

Signs - 16:17

Side - 17:14, 27:25

Similar - 14:25

Simply - 23:22

Single - 16:18, 42:4

Sits - 18:8

Skin - 14:3, 14:21, 14:23, 15:4, 15:5.

16:5, 40:6

16:5, 40:6

Slide - 38:6

Slip - 21:14, 21:23,

22:11, 38:20, 38:21

Sliding - 38:20

Slightly - 20:16

22:11, 38:20, 38:21

Slowly - 51:10
Slump - 21:18,
23:23
Small - 15:2, 24:4,
29:17

Snap - 18:17

Snapped - 40:22

Snaps - 18:15

Sounds - 53:3

Sp - 12:7, 12:18,

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14:1, 29:10

Special - 3:1, 3:4,

3:18, 3:21, 3:24, 4:3,

54:10

Specialized - 6:20

Spell - 3:23

Spelled - 3:25

| Spine - 18:19, 19:13 |

18:15

Squeezes - 18:14,

18:15

Standard - 26:9.

Stamp - 51:8

26:11

Standing - 30:13

Stands - 51:13

Start - 3:24, 5:7,

6:14, 24:2, 26:25,

80:16

Started - 6:19, 11:7

Starting - 4:21, 5:11

Staten - 9:7

Steadily - 11:8

Steady - 15:20

Steroid - 42:14

Sticking - 30:25,

31:2

Stood - 13:15, 41:3

Stool - 34:11, 34:15,

24:18

34:18

Strangled - 21:10

Stop - 23:19

Straight - 20:15

Strangling - 22:23,

23:7

Strangulation - 15:

14, 15:22, 16:18,

17:11, 17:12, 18:23,

Strangulations - 16

19:19, 20:13, 22:21,

46:13, 47:10

:4, 16:7

Strip - 33:19

Structure - 19:12

Strap - 17:3

Structures - 17:15

Struggle - 15:24,

16:17, 16:24

Struggled - 16:20

Struggling - 15:24

Stuck - 47:5

Studies - 5:15, 5:16

Substances - 41:24

. 42:15

Suggested - 16:23

Suicidal - 20:20

| Suicide | 9:4, 9:18, |

| :--- | :--- |

15:10, 16:11, 16:15,

20:9, 23:14, 43:16,

44:7, 47:22, 47:25,

48:4, 48:20

Suicides - 9:7, 15:9

Superimposed - 24

:24, 25:2

SUNY - 5:19

Summary - 5:10

Supplementary - 7:

3

Surrounding - 4:15

Suspect - 24:9

Suspended - 35:22, 35:25

Suspension - 24:9

Suspicious - 27:8,
41:5, 40:7

Sustained - 15:20,

41:5, 49:7

17:8, 17:20, 18:16,

25:9, 25:24, 29:21

Swab - 36:16

Swear - 4:24, 5:1

Swallowing - 18:11,

26:2

Switched - 5:24

Symptoms - 26:1

System - 41:17,

42:2, 42:3

Table - 34:11

Taking - 42:13,

53:14

Teams - 3:17

Targeted - 42:8

Tear - 35:5

Tearing - 36:6

Tech - 13:4

Technicians - 12:12

. 28:24

Techs - 12:19

Ten - 6:25

Terminology - 14:6

Terms - 36:7

Test - 41:15

Testing - 36:14,

There’s - 13:1, 24:1,

Thanks - 8:11,
10:12

36:15, 37:1, 42:4,

42:8, 42:12

These - 3:7, 9:23,

10:12

They’ve - 28:5

20:10, 24:14, 28:1,

34:10, 44:23

10:1, 17:15, 17:16,

20:14, 28:2, 49:9

28:7, 28:10, 28:16,

36:7, 44:6

They’re - 15:3,

Thorough - 44:1,

Thoroughness - 44

50:3

Thyroid - 17:14,

Threats - 46:10

:5, 46:12

Three - 5:25, 6:7,

18:25, 19:1, 19:15,

Throat - 19:7

Thousand - 8:25

20:4, 24:13, 25:12

6:13, 7:10, 9:20

Tidy - 35:19

Tie - 21:13, 21:14,

Tighten - 38:6

Tight - 35:11

21:15, 23:22

Tightens - 21:17

Tightened - 35:11

Time - 3:2, 3:15,

11:3, 24:5, 25:25,

Times - 49:5

Tiny - 50:22

53:14, 54:10

26:11, 30:20, 32:23,

Tip - 18:21

Today’s - 3:15

Tips - 18:20, 19:14,

Today - 3:2

19:16

Toilet - 34:15

Tongue - 18:9

Took - 7:20, 26:5,

32:19, 32:21, 33:3

Tops - 19:9

Top - 19:8, 39:17,

40:3

Tore - 35:20

Torn - 36:4

Tough - 30:11

Track - 13:7

Training - 5:22,

41:14

Toxicology - 41:12,

5:25, 6:2, 6:3, 6:5,

Trauma - 20:11,

6:20, 6:23, 7:2, 7:3,

7:14, 7:15

Truth - 4:24, 4:25

20:18, 24:24, 25:2,

Tries - 23:14

Tying - 21:22

25:25

Tylenol - 42:10,

Two - 9:20, 19:8

Types - 28:4

42:11

29:11

Typically - 13:25,

Un - 18:16

Undergoing - 7:2

Understood - 44:8,

Unevenly - 19:21

Unfortunately - 50:

19

University - 5:16

Union - 5:14

Unless - 47:11

Unpleasant - 48:18

Unwanted - 48:12

Upward - 20:14,

20:16

Used - 28:5, 31:23,

37:10, 45:18

V

Verify - 52:18

Versus - 17:19, 47:7

Versed - 21:22

Vetted - 51:21

Via - 3:17

Victims - 22:21

Video - 3:17

View - 30:12

Violently - 26:25

Visible - 25:23

Visual - 28:20

Vitamins - 42:9

Voice - 19:5

Voluntarily - 4:17

Voluntary - 4:18

W

Walk - 16:11, 34:10

Waiting - 43:14

Walked - 31:5, 31:6

Wanting - 44:3

Warm - 18:7

  • 13:10,

13:12

Wasn’t - 5:23,

11:23, 11:24, 21:21,

49:18

Weekly - 6:23

Weight - 21:17

Welcome - 54:6

We’ll - 53:19

We’re - 5:7, 34:16,

Weren’t - 44:3,

48:19

What’s - 12:20

Whole - 50:6, 53:2

Width - 45:7

11:1, 21:2, 21:16,

Will - 4:18, 9:6,

27:25, 38:5, 42:11

Window - 30:15

Wishbone - 18:14

Wings - 19:9

Wisconsin - 8:2

Witness - 39:4

Woman - 26:14

Women - 23:3

Work - 8:3

Worked - 9:8, 11:8

Working - 11:24

Wounds - 22:15,

Wouldn’t - 30:7,

39:18, 40:6, 43:20

Wrapped - 32:1,

25:13

22:18, 22:19

Wrinkled - 35:13

Wow - 9:11

Yanking - 40:15

Yank - 40:15

Yanked - 40:14

6:17, 6:25, 7:6, 7:19,

7:22

Year - 5:21, 6:1,

Years - 5:25, 6:7,

7:18

6:13, 6:25, 7:10,

York - 3:6, 3:9, 4:4,

4:7, 4:12, 8:6, 8:15,

10:6, 10:7

You’d - 11:3

You’re - 4:1, 10:17,

You’ll - 22:24, 23:1,

34:17

19:24, 36:9, 37:12,

37:20, 40:5, 54:5

You’ve - 7:1, 7:16

Yup - 12:9, 31:13,

32:6, 41:22, 43:4,

50:25, 54:6

Zoom - 50:23

‘03 - 7:14, 7:16

‘04 - 7:14, 7:16

‘99 - 7:12

00:07:30 - 10:14

00:09:00 - 12:7

00:09:17 - 12:18

00:10:16 - 14:2

00:25:21 - 29:3

00:25:29 - 29:10

00:26:53 - 31:1

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00:36:30 - 41:9
00:42:31 - 47:8
00:45:29 - 50:18
00:47:31 - 53:1
00:47:37 - 53:3
001 - 28:20
004 - 30:1
005 - 34:14
006 - 33:7, 38:24
007 - 44:25
009 - 33:8
015 - 34:24, 39:1
055 - 34:8
1
10th - 11:16, 11:23
11th - 10:24, 11:25,
12:1
1999 - 7:8
2
20 - 7:18
2001 - 7:12, 7:13
2003 - 7:13
2013 - 7:25
2014 - 7:25
2019 - 10:25
2022 - 3:2, 3:15,
54:11
23rd - 25:4, 25:16
3
3:33 - 3:3
3:34 - 3:16
31st - 3:2, 3:15,
54:11
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OIG sworn statement of the New York medical examiner on Epstein's autopsy, May 2022

Depositions and interviews

Transcribed OIG sworn statement of the NYC medical examiner explaining autopsy findings supporting a suicide ruling in Jeffrey Epstein's death.

DOJ Epstein Files, Data Set 9 · May 31, 2022

LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 1 DIGITALLY RECORDED SWORN STATEMENT OF OIG CASE : 2019-010614 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL MAY 31, 2022 RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES 28632 Roadside Dr., Suite 285 Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Phone: (818) 431-5800 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00113220 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 2 APPEARANCES: OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OTHER APPEARANCES: LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00113221 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 3 1 MR. : This is Special Agent 2 . Today is May 31st, 2022. The time is 3:33 p.m., and the recording is now on. 3 My name is I am a Special Agent with the U.S. Depar…