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MS. Lieutenant? Uh, Lieutenant when he came in and my first, you know, any time you have a suicide attempt, you want to make sure your staff are all right and how they’re doing. So, I went to, you know, to check on him to kind of get a debrief on what was going on. He kind of debriefed me on the situation. Um —¶
What did Lieutenant tell you? So, I asked him, so I basically told him what happened, and he said, he talked to Officer Noel and she said we didn’t do the 3 o’clock count or the 5 o’clock count.¶
And then he said he talked to Noel, Officer Noel, and she said, no he talked to Officer Thomas and that Officer Thomas said, “I messed up. We messed up.” Something about it’s not her fault. But he said he was just talking way off the line.¶
Let me back-track a little. I did make one more call, because I couldn’t get in contact with Lieutenant. I called up to the Special Housing Unit.¶
said, try to find him if he’s outside. So, they went outside and they said, you know, he was gone.¶
I didn’t see Ms. Noel, but I told them to get a memorandum from her at what happened. They told me she wasn’t feeling well and she had to talk to her Union rep.¶
So, and I said, “You know what, let them go. We got back with them or somebody will get back with them.” And they left. And we just started the process of collecting and preserving.¶
MS. Have Noel or Thomas been in to work since then?¶
No. Noel, I sent some support staff on Sunday to go talk to them. Today, the mother of Thomas’ child, she works at the institution but they’re not together, said, “Hey, he was with her all weekend but she can’t get in contact with him.” I sent her and a Lieutenant to go over to his house to find out if he’s okay. He called me a little irate saying, “You know, you’re sending people to my house. You know, I was sleeping.”¶
I said, “I’m checking on your well-being”,¶
Okay.¶
And I believe Ms. Noel picked up the phone, and I asked her, you know, what was going. And she told me what was going on. But she really couldn’t talk. So, then I came, when I got to the institution, I saw her and I said, “Hey, are you all right? Is everything fine.” And she was like okay.¶
So, I had somebody from our crisis support team that was there talk to her to make sure that she was all right, and then I went to try to find Thomas. She said Thomas had left.¶
So, I said, okay, “Left where? Where did he go?”¶
They said, you know, “He went home. He was distraught.”¶
So, then I get another call saying Thomas was outside, and that he told me, “I’m not answering any questions from you. I want my union,” I said Thomas, “I’m not concerned about what happened. I’m concerned about your well-being. Make sure you’re all right. You’ve been through a traumatic experience”, and he just kept talking.¶
So, there was a staff member out there.¶
you know. And then I didn’t know, and I asked him, I said, “Did you call in for work today?” And he said, “Yes, I did.” And he said, “He was sleeping and he was tired.” And I said, “Well I’m just checking on your well-being and just seeing how you are”, and I left it at that.¶
MS. That was this morning?¶
That was this morning.¶
MS. He basically called in sick today!¶
She’s on days off Monday and Tuesday.¶
MS. Okay.¶
I’m going to assign both of them with no inmate contact, so they’re going to be away from inmates and assigned on the outside (Indiscernible *01:23:09).¶
MS. And then Lieutenant.¶
And then that’s basically what Lieutenant told me, and I told him, “Write a memorandum on what was said,” and he wrote the memorandum and he submitted it.¶
MS. Has he been in to work since Saturday?¶
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