Order granting reconsideration on release of Epstein grand jury materials, 2024

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA¶

Case No. 50-2019-CA-014681-AG¶

CA FLORIDA HOLDINGS, LLC, Publisher of THE PALM BEACH POST,¶

Plaintiff,¶

VS.¶

ABRUZZO, as Clerk and Comptroller of Palm Beach County, Florida,¶

Defendants.¶

ORDER GRANTING PLAINTIF ASI° 41 9C RECONSIDERATION 2 RDER XN ai OF THE TRIAL COU FEBRUARY NOF 2R 4 ORDER AND CA G V 8. 2024 HEARING r cn,¶

CO SA¶

THIS CAUSE, having c e a)F the Court on The Palm Beach Post’s Motion for Reconsideration of The Trial C ’ ebruary 29, 2024 Order, filed on June 12, 2024, and the Court, having considered otion, being advised of the arguments of the parties, and being otherwise advi o e premises, the Court Grants the Motion for Reconsideration and adjudicates the follow’¶

Procedural Ilistory¶

In 2019, The Palm Beach Post commenced this action seeking a declaration authorizing the release of testimony and related evidence presented to the Palm Beach County grand jury in 2006 during the first Jeffrey Epstein (“Epstein”) sex abuse investigation.¶

On December 21, 2021, the trial court entered a Final Judgment dismissing The Palm Beach Post’s First Amended Complaint on the grounds that the Court lacked the statutory authority, under Florida Statute 905.27, to order the release of the Epstein grand jury materials.¶

On May 10, 2023, the Fourth District Court of Appeal remanded the case to the Circuit Court to conduct an in camera inspection of the Epstein grand jury materials to dete ne whether public disclosure would be “furthering justice” as defined by Florida Statute¶

The Court ultimately determined the request did not further j existed at the time. The Court stated that it must follow the law and making is a process that belongs exclusively to the people their legislature and the executive branches. This c4c co N v Courts interpret law - THE COURTS DO NOT tic s r the law as it create new law. Law when they speak through imentary and basic civics. The¶

It is also important to note, th wit t an amendment to the statute, Grand Jury proceedings are generally always I and are closed to the public. This is generally to protect jurors, witnesses, tho and the integrity of the case. Secrecy allows people to serve as jurors and witn oczto or testify without fear of outside influence or retaliation. In some cases, it also ens likely that a apply nt p ction of an innocent suspect’s reputation. Secrecy also makes it less ill abscond after learning they are being investigated. While those do not the law at the time did not carve out an exception.¶

During this time, among others, the Clerk of Court, Mr. Abruzzo, a former state legislator with vast experience in the legislative process, advocated to state legislators to amend the law. Their efforts were successful. Florida’s Legislature unanimously passed Bill KB 117.¶

Once the bill passed both of the legislative houses, the Governor of Florida Ron DeSantis very quickly signed CS/HBI17 amending Florida Statute 905.27 effective July 1, 2024. This amendment significantly modified the definition of “furthering justice” to expressly include furthering a public interest when the disclosure is requested pursuant to paragraph 905.27(2)(c). It cannot be understated that the amendment to the law very clearly allows what previously was A not legally permissible.¶

The Court’s Order denying the release of the records also gave leav oSCfor The Palm Beach Post to file a motion for reconsideration after July I, 2024 - er thg new statute.¶

On June 12, 2024, The Palm Beach Post moved fo eration of the Trial Court’s order based on the Florida Statute 905.27, as amended. 2024.¶

It cannot be disputed that the 2024 ame Florida Statute 905.27 were intended to remove the prior statutory hurdles to di su the Epstein grand jury materials. In fact, the Court notes the bill was often calle tein Grand Jury Bill” recognizing the prior statutory construction did not allow release of th e records.¶

In the official pres e, Gov. DeSantis explained his reasons for signing of CS/HB 117 into law. Gov. tis stated, “The public deserves to know who participated in the Jeffery Epstein se ng. Nobody should be protected from facing justice due to their wealth, or status, e who harm children should be exposed and punished to the fullest extent of the law.”¶

Conclusions of Fact and Law¶

Florida Statute 905.27(2)(c) now reads as follows:¶

When a court orders the disclosure of such testimony pursuant to subsection (I) in response to a request by the media or an interested person, regardless of whether that purpose is for use in a criminal or civil case, it may be disclosed so long as the subject of the grand jury inquiry is deceased, the grand jury inquiry related to criminal or sexual activity between the subject of the grand jury investigation and a person who was a minor at the time of the alleged criminal or sexual activit the testimony was previously disclosed by a court order, and the state at is provided notice of the request. This paragraph does not limit the cou ility o limit the disclosure of testimony, including, but not limited to, reds¶

With that new legal mechanism in place, the Court makes the calls findings.¶

The Court finds that the request involves a matter 4 14 ub lc interest. The criminal prosecutions of the most infamous pedophile in America t o i ) gan in Palm Beach County with much controversy. For almost 20 years, the s< ct, Jeffrey Epstein victimized some of Palm Beach County’s most vulnerable has Sn e ubject of much anger and has at times diminished the public’s perception of min justice system.¶

Adding to the public in tein is indeed notorious and infamous and is widely reported to have flaunted his we hile cavorting with politicians, billionaires, and even British Royalty. It is understands e at given those reports the public has a great curiosity about what was widely re ews agency as “special treatment” regarding his prosecution. This matter is clearly Afe of public interest.¶

Th ourt finds that this request is made by the news media, specifically The Palm Beach Post. The Palm Beach Post is a daily newspaper that was founded in 1916 as a local publication in West Palm Beach. For decades, the Palm Beach Post was printed and published daily in Palm Beach County. The Court finds that despite its many changes, The Palm Beach Post has a long and rich history documenting our local community. Many local residents still rely on The Palm Beach¶

Post to obtain information on national, state, and local events. The Palm Beach Post remains a newspaper of record in our county.¶

The Court finds Epstein is also widely reported to have been deceased since August 10, 2019, under controversial and “newsworthy” circumstances, while under “supervision” at Metropolitan Correctional Center in the state of New York. This adds to the public As i rest.¶

Having reviewed the testimony, the Court also finds the testimony rela sexu 1 activity between Epstein and child victims of sex trafficking. Again, it is wide that Epstein is a notorious and serial pedophile. The testimony taken by the Grand J co cerns activity ranging from grossly unacceptable to rape — all of the conduct at issp ally deviant, disgusting, and criminal.¶

The details in the record will be outra ent people. It is also important to note that some of the testimony in the records ps ‘s pedophilia involved other people, but there is nothing in this record that was u i he knowledge of law enforcement or Prosecutors — there is no new informationC¶

Tragically, the rec veals that Epstein used children to find more victims. The record also shows that s r of the children knew the type of people they could be exposed to and the infamous .uch “notable” people.¶

ourt also notes the testimony was previously disclosed to law enforcement agencies. Furthermore, the State Attorney was properly noticed and long ago withdrew any objections to release the records and early on even did his best to disclose the information in his office’s possession without delay via an internet portal. As a result, he was eventually dropped as a named party in this action after much inconvenience and expense.¶

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED AND ADJUDED,¶

IT IS ORDERED AND ADJUDGED,¶

The Motion for Reconsideration is GRANTED.¶

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED AND ADJUDED,¶

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The hearing scheduled for July 8, 2024 is moot and is canceled.¶

The Palm Beach Post’s petition to release the Grand Ju prongs regarding Jeffery Epstein under Florida Statute 905.27 as amended July I, 2t ick) CR ‘NE TD¶

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With only a few redactions made by the The Court hereby authorizes the Clerk of Cou s of the testimony in their entirety (attac t S E e bit “A”). The Court is not aware of anything more to review and disclose. S li ofect the identity of the minors the redacted Clerks Notes and transcripts¶

DONE and ORDERE est Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, Florida.¶

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502019CA014681XXXXMB 07/012024 Luis Delgado Circuit Judge¶

Exhibit A Composite:¶

STATE V. _____¶

CASE NO. _____¶

CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN INVESTIGATION ASA: LANNA BELOHLAVER¶

DATE	ST or DFS	WITNESS	DIRECT	CROSS	REDIRECT	RE-CROSS	REDIRECT CONTINUED	RE-CROSS CONTINUED	END	TTL
7/19/06	TT	DET. JOE (EDDY) (PKPD)	9:14:18		10:00:28		11:38:08		9:20:47	10:58:28 11:34:14
7/19/06	TT	GREG FARKINGTON	11:11:15						11:31:32	11:38:08
7/19/06	TT	[REDACTED]	” ;						” ;
7/19/06	TT	[REDACTED]	9:21:04						10:00:00
7/19/06	TT	[REDACTED]	X:34:29						11:54:42
7/19/06	TT	JENSEN BAC (IND) (TONY) ROSS	11:56:24						12:14:56
CONTINUING INVESTIGATION (TONY) REVIEW OF GRANT TONY DIRECTIVES DATED 4/25/06 — ASA: MARY ANN DUGGAN
7/19/06	TT	JENSEN ROSS	1:17:22						1:39:51

B: Bench Conference¶

Defense Attorney[s]:¶

*: Motion to Strike¶

ASST. State Atty[s]: LANNA BELOHLAVER MARY ANN DUGGAN¶

Page 1¶

7/19/06¶

Grand Jury¶

Crimes against children Investigation¶

p: Jenna Belknap¶

9:14:12¶

on record¶

9:14:18¶

p direct (did she know)¶

15:05¶

where became involved in case¶

15:29¶

how case came to P.B. P.D.¶

16:04¶

what [redacted] thought was going on¶

16:43¶

[redacted] had say for money w/ man from Alm Benk¶

17:16¶

fight w/ [redacted]¶

17:37¶

where [redacted] was interviewed¶

18:09¶

what [redacted] said initially¶

18:56¶

what [redacted] told [redacted] about going to the house¶

19:45¶

man identified as [redacted] (patrin), Jeffrey¶

20:25¶

[redacted] said she was over 18¶

9:21:04¶

p direct [redacted]¶

22:20¶

age, & birthdate¶

22:29¶

was 14 on Jul 05¶

23:30¶

how knows [redacted]¶

24:02¶

[redacted]¶

24:12¶

how mut¶

25:20¶

[redacted] said we would meet Jeffrey¶

26:42¶

[redacted] told ask lady writ was 18¶

29:15¶

Jeffrey’s full name¶

29:23¶

where was Jeffrey’s house¶

30:02¶

went to backdoor¶

30:18¶

Jeffrey & ask lady came to backdoor¶

31:13¶

ask lady walked writ up the room¶

II direct (cont…)¶

• 9:32:19 lady told wit to keep bra’s parties or
• 33:10 Feffrey layed down or his belly
• 33:15 Feffrey’s description
• 34:05 wit was kind of hostigent
• 35:09 told Feffrey she was 18
• 35:38 gave Feffrey a message
• 36:08 Feffrey
• 36:20 ask. lady asked wit to undersee
• 37:36 wit’s were buttery tunking Feffrey’s butter
• 38:11 * Feffrey asked to use vibrator or wit’s vagina
• 38:37 * vibrator description
• 34:10 Feffrey on his back
• 40:13 * where did Feffrey use vibrator
• 40:36 * Feffrey mistreated
• 42:00 Fe
• 42:12 Feffrey gave HR $300.
• 43:19 was seen about telling det. about vibrator
• 43:58 who was downstairs
• 44:19 [REDACTED] get money too mank $300
• 44:57 [REDACTED] what happened
• 46:17 did [REDACTED] & wit discussed about doing it again
• 47:08 [REDACTED] wit did not go back
• 47:22 * made controlled mill to [REDACTED]
• 48:22 * told [REDACTED] & [REDACTED]
• 49:15 get rate fight w/ [REDACTED]

Page 3 7/19/06¶

Indict (cont…)¶

9:50:13 why lied to ast. principal 50:53 ast principal called with stepmother 52:00 told mom she was dealing drugs 52:38 smoked pot 52:58 has myspace site act. 53:55 document skewn to wit 54:40 survey addressed 55:11 dad took her to get bellybutton (purchased) 55:47 did skepleting 56:02 put income as $250,000 or joke “57:03 Gury Q: 57:55 Gury Q: 58:24 TTD. as wit appears it was a crime 58:45 Gury Q: 59:02 Gury Q: 59:17 Gury Q: 0:00:00 at record 0:00:24 on record 0:00:28 Indict (del. Gury Qe Beckey) cont… 01:30 what found in Jeffrey’s house carbide 02:43 controlled phone calls, made by [REDACTED] 03:17 [REDACTED] 2 girls identified 03:42 head old girls were 04:05 9/21/05 trash pulled from Jeffrey’s house 05:03 * what found in trash pulled 05:20 name of girls 05:43 10/3/05 trash pulled from Jeffrey’s house¶

Page 4 7/19/06¶

in direct (dot. Records) cont…¶

0:07:50 when talked to [REDACTED] 08:48 * what [REDACTED] said 09:23 Joffrey’s asst’s name Sara 10:27 how [REDACTED] met people that led her to Joffrey 11:50 11:56 who [REDACTED] took to Joffrey’s house 13:10 [REDACTED] said she was like Heidi Alice 14:05 [REDACTED] was paid $200 every time she brought a girl 14:37 got statement from [REDACTED] 15:30 what additional things did [REDACTED] said happened 16:28 how many times [REDACTED] went to [REDACTED] Joffrey’s house 17:13 how much Joffrey said [REDACTED] 18:05 when 1.D. [REDACTED] (girl), 18:30 [REDACTED] said she went to Joffrey’s house : hundreds of times 19:20 how [REDACTED] described first time she went to Joffrey’s house 21:03 [REDACTED] said 6 pattern materiated 23:30 * Joffrey introduced his other asst. 24:04 [REDACTED] described disciplinary of sex acts 26:00 * [REDACTED] plead [REDACTED] head on message table : & inverted his penis in her vagina 27:43 asked [REDACTED] what she did w/all that money 28:10 * who is [REDACTED] 28:54 [REDACTED] said she was taken to Joffrey’s house 29:24 [REDACTED] was 17 at the time¶

Page 5 7/19/06¶

idinct (and…)¶

10:30:47 [REDACTED] said sex acts became more involved¶

31:05* did [REDACTED] tell Jeffrey she was 17¶

31:55* did any girls tell Jeffrey they were under 18¶

32:43 New muck was [REDACTED] bornes¶

33:00¶

33:34 information given by Alfredo¶

34:22 Alfredo Real notes (like a journal)¶

35:50 when flowers taken to [REDACTED]¶

36:22 no formal training by girls for messages¶

37:28 [REDACTED] relationship to Jeffrey¶

38:26 did messages by [REDACTED] go beyond¶

41:15 New girls New unck other¶

41:42* attained several warrant for Jeffrey’s home¶

42:19* who was present w/ wrt when served warrant¶

42:58 item found New in a town topside¶

43:20 where was item found¶

43:59 any second devices found fit down given by girls¶

44:24 Gury Q:¶

45:03 Gury Q:¶

45:35 Gury Q:¶

45:56 Gury Q:¶

47:02 TT Q: [REDACTED] present occupation¶

47:18 Gury Q: did girl say no when Jeffrey penetrated her¶

48:12 Gury Q:¶

49:10 Gury Q: who was penetrated by Jeffrey¶

Indirect (cont…)¶

• 10:50:00 Jury Q:
• 50:44 Jury Q:
• 51:04 Jury Q:
• 51:50 Jury Q:
• 52:12 IT Q: who made direct appointments
• 52:29 Jury Q:
• 53:48 Jury Q:
• 53:20 Jury Q:
• 53:52 Jury Q:
• 54:52 Jury Q:
• 55:12 Jury Q: Epitein’s age
• 55:47 Jury Q:
• 56:40 IT Q:
• 57:32 Jury Q:
• 58:13 Jury Q:
• 1:58:28 of record
• 1:11:10 on record
• 1:11:15 IT direct (Dragon Parkinson) PBPD
• 16:02 cohors mend on O.d. - address
• 16:41 * New house was entered
• 18:46 det. Recovery read search worker and aloud to accompanies outside of house
• 19:38 residence description
• 20:43 wit steps down from stored
• 20:46 wit describes diagram

CERTIFIED COPY¶

Indirect (cont…)¶

• 11:23:22 found message table.
• 23:31 ” ” oils
• 24:10 any message oils found where message table was
• 25:46 wit hotakes returned
• 25:58 did any offer find a purple oil ratter
• 27:20 Qury Q:
• 28:42 II Q:
• 29:00 Qury Q:
• 29:45 Qury Q:
• 29:53 Qury Q:
• 30:40 Qury Q:
• 13:32 of record
• 1:32:07 on record
• 1:32:08 II direct (pl Bearney) cont…
• 32:10 who was in home where warrant served
• 33:08 where was time - torpedo found
• 34:03 Qury Q:
• 1:32:06 on record
• 1:34:29 (direct ( [REDACTED] ))
• 35:48 Now knows [REDACTED]
• 36:36 [REDACTED] introduced wit to Jeffrey
• 37:45 where went to Jeffrey’s home not time
• 38:08 was 16 yrs old juvile year
• 38:39 wit describes first time went to Jeffrey’s house
• 39:20 Jeffrey gave her #200.

COPY¶

Tr direct (cond…)¶

1:40:15 how many times went to Jeffrey’s [REDACTED]¶

40:48 * how message progressed¶

41:20 * last time engaged in intercourse - how old was wit¶

42:47 told Jeffrey she was 17¶

43:10 Jeffrey pentrated her vagina a/his penis¶

43:40 how much was wit paid¶

44:27 Jeffrey gave her digital comma¶

44:56 * Radia was in room a/them one time¶

45:46 Jeffrey asked wit to tank Radia’s breast¶

47:07 * does wit went Jeffrey to be charged¶

47:30 * does father know about situation¶

47:58 how much money did wit get during all that time¶

48:59 Jury Q: how old was wit where pentration occurred¶

50:34 Jury Q: why didn’t ask Jeffrey to stop¶

52:07 Jury Q:¶

52:18 Jury Q:¶

52:32 Jury Q: A¶

52:55 Jury Q:¶

53:29 Jury Q:¶

1:54:42 Jef record¶

1:55:32 on record¶

1:56:34 Tr direct (Jensen) Reco (Jones) Record and state all investigators)¶

57:40 police report on [REDACTED] skinking¶

59:08 [REDACTED] was reported messing on …¶

2:01:05 wit has looked at [REDACTED] (upspace.com) site¶

02:03 what is [REDACTED] web name¶

Indirect (cond…)¶

• 2:02:49 photos of [REDACTED] shown to wit
• 03:36 [REDACTED] has been abroad
• 04:39 * wit heads from exhibit C - about
• 07:26 does [REDACTED] make references to wanting to be famous
• 08:29 July Q:
• 08:57 IT Q:
• 09:05 July Q: what was date that she said she
• : wanted to be famous
• 7:10:10 July Q:
• 10:29 July Q:
• 11:02 July Q:
• 12:30 July Q:
• 13:20 July Q:
• 13:54 July Q:
• 14:15 July Q:
• 14:34 July Q:
• 2:14:56 aff record
• : on record
• : Other (Green Pear said inv.) and s…
• 2:51:45 [REDACTED] (Green Pear ) cond…
• 51:46 IT Q: what is July
• 2:52:34 aff record
• : Continuing investigation (examination of Ground July Directors)
• : dated 4/25/06 - ASA: Mary Ban Buggan
• :17:17 on record
• :17:22 IT direct (Green Pear ) and state off investigator

CERTIFIED COPY¶

Indirect (cond…)¶

• 1:18:00 terms of chief Water & Wardell Wardell
• 18:20 ” ” ”
• 19:24 is part time chief …
• 21:16 Water
• 27:32 6/1/04 Wardell started as chief
• 22:00 Wardell started career on …
• 23:00 do records reflect Wardell’s suspension date
• 24:10 NOW without does his hirings
• 27:52 5/26/06 Chalk out on road
• 29:02 did computer check on off. Chalk’s start date
• 29:55* Non computer check from 11/6/05-5/27/06
• 31:09 total of 25 cases during period - 17 open 8 closed
• 33:38 at
• 34:04 Wardell Wardell employed 3/20/06 legal from 5/24
• 33 34:47 8 cases during period handled by Wardell
• 35:38 14 of 65 may have similar problems
• 36:17 Gury Q: was chief Wardell familiar w/rules
• 36:47 Gury Q: is chief Wardell responsible for …
• 37:38 To Q:
• 38:00 Gury Q: who signed certificate for Chalk & Wardell
• 38:49 Gury Q:
• 1:39:51 of record

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA¶

GRAND JURY PROCEEDINGS (IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN)¶

464,{sup}r¶

ON BEHAL BARRY KR State 401 W STATE: ESQUIRE ey ixie Highway Beach, Florida 33401 NNA BELOHLAVEK, ESQUIRE and MARY ANN DUGGAN, ESQUIRE Assistant State Attorneys¶

CO S¶

23 Wednesday, July 19, 2006 Grand Jury Room 24 Palm Beach County Courthouse 9:14 a.m. to 12:52 p.m.¶

	PAGE
4	WITNESS:
7	JOE RECAREY (Recalled)
8	GREGORY PARKINSON
9	JOE RECAREY(Recalled)
11	JENSEN IIII
	JOE RECAREY 3

INDEX¶

BE IT REMEMBERED that the following proceedings were had at the Palm Beach County Courthouse, located in the City of West Palm Beach, State of Florida on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 beginning at 9:14 a.m. with appearances as hereinbefore noted, to wit:¶

THEREUPON:¶

MS. DUGGAN: Everybody dy?¶

(WITNESS JOE RECAR¶

the testimony will be the Would raise your right hand. Do yo r or affirm that about to give today the whole truth, and Kt,’” he truth, so help you God?¶

TNESS: I do.¶

“t. DUGGAN: Please have a seat.¶

{sup}V THE WITNESS: Thank you.¶

t ar’ EXAMINATION¶

Y . BELOHLAVEK:¶

Q. Good morning.¶

A. Good morning.¶

Q. Detective Recarey, could you introduce yourself, please?¶

A. My name is Detective Joe Recarey with Palm Beach Police Department.¶

Q. Okay. What is your position there?¶

A. I am adetective in the special investigations unit.¶

Q. What do you investigate in special investigations?¶

A. Long term investigations, financial crimes, ilIllicollar crimes, just about any — kind of crimes. AcIt¶

Q. Okay. Ones that are goi or {sup}along period of time though, usuall ?¶

A. Correct, long peri¶

Q. Not a murder t pened last night?¶

A. Right.¶

Q. Okay. become involved in an investigati r case number 0500368?¶

A. Tkfat i%fcorrect.¶

Q Whew did you become involved in this?¶

icA. ,In Sep — in September of 2005.¶

(14%1Nk Okay. Was there another detective ILAve stigating {sup}s this case before then?¶

÷ 1 A. That is correct. Her name was Michele Pagan.¶

Q. Okay. And she, at some point, turned it over to you?¶

1 Q. Have you familiarized yourself, either 2 speaking with Detective Pagan or going through her 3 reports, as to what was done when she was the 4 detective on the case?¶

5 A. Yes, I have.¶

6 Q. Okay. How did this case come to the 7 attention of the Palm Beach Police Depa ent?¶

8 A. On March 14, 2005 a phone ca s received 9 from , who felt th e was a — 10 some sexual activity had occurr ith the her 11 daughter.¶

ASIO 12 Q. Okay. And yy 13 name is¶

14 A.¶

15 Q. Okay who was her daughter?¶

16 A. H r s daughter is¶

17 Q. WhaT did think was going on?¶

18 A. W at had occurred was that had gotten 19 n a fight at School. And 20 bsequent, after the fight, they discovered $300 21 in her purse.¶

22 When questioning the $300, she had told ‘em 23 that she had received it from a man in Palm Beach.¶

24 Q. Okay. Did also overhear a 25 conversation where they were talking about sex? 1 2 That might have accepted money for having sex with the man?¶

3 4 A. Um, yes, that is correct. She had some kind of sexual activity with aman in Palm Beach.¶

5 Q• And was paid for it?¶

6 A. Correct.¶

7 8 Q. Okay. Was Detective Pagan able Airalmcfind out the circumstances about why the fi ccurred?¶

9 10 11 A. It was rumored that she man in Palm Beach, in — at School. -49 pt with {sup}a¶

12 Q. She, being¶

13 A.¶

14 Q. Okay.¶

15 A. Corr¶

16 17 4. heard the rumor that she was {sup}a pros *tute, and that’s what started the fight?¶

18 Correct.¶

19 Who did she have the fight with?¶

20 {sup}Agirl by the name of .¶

21 22 Q. Okay. Where — the fight occurred at school?¶

24 25 Q. Who actually found the money in purse?¶

( S’\¶

A. The Freshman Assistant Principal.¶

Q. Okay. How much money was in the purse?¶

A. 300.¶

Q. Was Detective Pagan able to interview ?¶

Q. Where did that occur? {sup}44 0”¶

A. That occurred at the Palm Be olice Department. yy¶

Q. Okay. Did init 11 - was initially honest with Det Pagan?¶

A. Originally she tell everything that occurred. It was t h asubsequent interview that the — furt enformation was developed.¶

Q. What,ek, tell Detective Pagan initiall . 1S0,¶

A Insally, that she had gone to the house w* h agirl by the name of to pick up on {sup}o{sup}sthat were owed to her.¶

(. .4 When she — Detective Pagan further questioned her, she explained that — that she was taken to the house to provide a massage to {sup}a wealthy man in Palm Beach.¶

Q. Okay. She initially denied that though, and said there was no act on her part between this man and herself?¶

Q. Okay. But she ultimately told them that she went for a massage?¶

Q. To give him a massage?¶

Q. Okay. Did discuss wi Pagan that — what to the house? ) had tot:: about going Aective¶

Like, did you know was going to bring you here to do a mass that you were going to get money?¶

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Q. What i say explained to her?¶

A. O igin ly — let me — if I can read this.¶

Ori inally, the first interview was done, I’ so y, at School.¶

’ She was going to the house to provide the massage. It was offered to her by to provide the massage to this man who was later identified as Jeffrey Epstein.¶

Q. Okay. Did admit to Detective Pagan knowing that worked for this man in exchange for doing sexual favors?¶

Q. Did she say that she was offered the opportunity to do those, and that’s why she went there?¶

Q. Okay. Did Detective Pagan ask if she ever discussed with about lettin ‘s man know her age? ,44c;¶

A. Um, it was discussed in •e over that if she — she would asked her a to say that she was 18.¶

was going to do th Q. Okay. And 74Mig5 ) agreed that she 12 t’ asked?¶

Q. Okay¶

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{sup}ciliary¶

Iczoltegto ask to testify. Okay? BELOHLAVEK: At this point we’re¶

( 4 S MS. BELOHLAVEK: Please hang around. %b.) You’re going to testify again in alittle bit.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: Thank you. (Witness excused.)¶

(WITNESS¶

MS. DUGGAN: Come on in. We’re going to have you sit over here.¶

Could you raise your right hand for me?¶

Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you’re about to give will be the truth, the whole trut nd nothing but the truth, so help y¶

THE WITNESS:¶

MS. DUGGAN: you’re here testifying eve {sup}i {sup}srecorded with {sup}a microphone so you have to — you can put bum hand down — you have to answ ou did, verbally, or — you ake your head, because that won’t be recorded in the system that’s going on. So you have to say yes or no, you can’t shake your head.¶

And one important thing is, you’re here today before the grand jury, and it is {sup}acrime to lie to the grand jury. And in our terms we call it perjury, but in regular peoples’ terms it’s lying to the grand jury.¶

So there’s one important rule here today. You must tell them the truth, {sup}100percent the truth. There is — cause you cannot — there’s no penalty for telling the truth.¶

It’s the opposite. shown — proven that you lied t e grand jury, there is a crime of pe If it can be¶

Do you understand¶

THE WITNESS: M -h¶

MS. DUGGAN: at a yes?¶

THE WITN¶

MS. D Okay. So move up to the microphon ittle bit. And be sure that you es or no, and so that even the ce {sup}fks the top of this room can hear your 4:7 rs. Okay?¶

lc {sup}r¶

0 MS. BELOHLAVEK:¶

Q. All right. Could you tell us who you are?¶

A. I’m¶

Q. How old are you, ?¶

A. 16.¶

Q. What’s your birthday?¶

EXAMINATION¶

1 A. , 1990.¶

{sup}2Q. How old were you in February of 2005?¶

3 A. I was 14 still.¶

4 Q. 14 or 15?¶

5 6 was 14, so. A. I was 14 still. Well, this happened when {sup}I¶

7 Q. You turned¶

8 A. 15, in IMM of that year.¶

9 Q. And you just turned 16?¶

10 A. Yeah.¶

{sup}11Q. Okay. So you were short of 15?¶

12 A. Mm-hmm.¶

13 Q. All right. edo you live?¶

14 I live ins . A.¶

15 Q. Wher u go to school?¶

16 17 A. g to be starting school at chool.¶

18 ay. That’s school —¶

19 Mm-hmm.¶

20 — out in —¶

21 A. In —¶

22 Go Q. ahead.¶

23 A.¶

24 25 Q. 2005? Okay. Where did you go to high school in 1 A. .¶

2 Q. Where is that?¶

3 A. In .¶

4 Q. On what road?¶

5 A. I —¶

6 Q.¶

8 Q. What grade were you in in 20 en you 9 were at School?C)¶

7 A. Yeah, probably. A¶

10 A. I was in 9th grade.¶

11 Q. Did you know somsc,¶

12 A. Yes.¶

13 Q. How did you {sup}2¶

14 A. I used to her cousin.¶

15 Q. All How old’s ?¶

16 17 A. A ime I think she was 18 or 19. {sup}I thin¶

{sup}18Who was her cousin that you dated? Q.¶

19¶

{sup}20(::) Q. Was going to school at or {sup}21did you know her from outside the school?¶

{sup}22A. I knew her from outside the school.¶

{sup}23Q. How much contact did you have with ?¶

{sup}24A. I met her about — I met her the night 25 before I went to Jeffrey’s house.¶

Q. Okay. Tell us about the night when you met¶

A. Um, I was with my boyfriend at my house. And her — or his aunt lives like four streets down from mine. So we went to say hi to his aunt and stuff, and was there.¶

And I was introduced¶

Q. Had you met her before thatfti;,¶

A. Um, at like a family foo . Like, they had a family get-together afootball game, and she was there.¶

A. But {sup}Ijust still i to her.¶

Q. All right.¶

A. Like I e er knew, like, who she was.¶

Q. — not a lot of conversations¶

A. Yea¶

Q. or¶

. It was just kind of like, hi, nice to meet ou.¶

Q. Okay. That night you go down there, you meet her. What happens?¶

A. Yeah. And then it was just kind of like {sup}a regular night, and we were hanging out, watching TV. And then, like, it was like 11:30-ish or 10,¶

A¶

something like that. And she was like, what are you doing tomorrow?¶

And I — I said, nothing.¶

And then she was like, I. well, do you want to make, like, $200?¶

And I was like, yeah, sure.¶

And then — and she was like, you’re going to have to, like, meet my fri Jeffrey. And he lives in a big humongous n. And, like, he lives on the water this stuff.¶

cool. And then I was lik that’s really¶

And then sh but you have to give him a massage fo 40 minutes. And that’s all you have to nd you get, like, $200 for it. And it’s re {sup}a easy.¶

An was like, okay. Like, whatever. Irlts j st a massage.¶

Ae ’ Lrrhat happened. And then we were just — told him. And he was, like, arguing with . And then him and went to the bathroom for like {sup}a couple minutes to argue. And then was like he was wondering¶

And had, like, her boyfriend there. So me and him were stuck in, like, the living room watching TV, listening to them argue for a couple minutes. And then they came back out.¶

Then we went outside and had called Jeffrey on the phone. And Jeffrey’s assistant lady; I don’t remember her name; she answered the phone. And she said that she had somebod that could give Jeffrey a massage tomorrow.¶

And the lady asked how old ate. And who I was — like, what my name was¶

But said that, ke had to be 18. So she told the lady I wand that I went to , and I was or and everything.¶

And so the assistant lady said, like, okay, th {sup}n. Come in tomorrow.¶

So t went home. I —¶

Q. O et me stop you there. Couple thin¶

A. Okay.¶

&ey Do you know if were arguing about? and were — what¶

A. Yeah. Because didn’t want me to go. Because I guess he knew about — like my his cousin kind of did that already. And¶

Q. Did that concern you, that didn’t want you to go and you were agreeing to go anyway?¶

1 A. Well, yeah. Cause — well, he was — I was 2 like — I guess cause I was 14 and he was, like, 3 16 and stuff. And he was just like, don’t go. 4 Don’t go. Don’t go.¶

5 And I was like, well, it’s $200. And I was 6 14, and I was like, $200. So I didn’t rea lly care 7 what he said. 46 .4¶

, 8 Q. Okay. And from listening to end of 9 that phone conversation, the pepsb Jeffrey’s. 10 house was trying to verify t were at least 11 18?¶

12 A. Mm-hmm.¶

13 Q. Okay. Is t¶

14 A. Yes.¶

15 Q. Okay¶

16 A. like, after she hung up the 17 phone with the lady she explained to me that — 18 we went back inside the house and she 19 xp mined to me that I was going to have to, like, 20 ) 14 e + ll the lady — like, make up a lie about my 21 whole life. Like, that I went I’m graduating 22 from already, that I’m 18 and all this 23 stuff. And that I’ve known for a long time. 24 Like, just to make it look like I was older.¶

25 And so I agreed to do all that stuff. And¶

1 then I went home for the night.¶

2 And then the next morning and another 3 lady — like, another teenager girl; I don’t 4 remember her name; she was in the truck with her. 5 And, like, we were leaving my house, and — but my 6 dad saw. And he — I told him we were nog g to 7 the mall in Palm Beach.¶

8 And my dad’s like, okay. H n’t have a 9 problem. And since it was or 10 cousin, he didn’t care that wa oing with 11 .¶

12 But he met — , e were leaving and my 13 dad was coming in fice, they were, like, 14 pulling into m r way. And he saw , and 15 asked for $5 for gas. So my dad 16 said, li sure, $5, whatever. And then we 17 left.¶

18 And then when we got to, um, Jeffrey’s 19 o um —¶

2,4e. (..5 4 Q. Do you know Jeffrey’s full name?¶

21 A. Jeffrey Epstein or Epstein or — whatever.¶

22 Q. Where was the house?¶

23 A. Um, I — it’s in Palm Beach, whatever.¶

24 But then when we pull up in the driveway, 25 nobody was there. Like, like, he’s not¶

1 home.¶

2 So we walked up anyways. We all got out of 3 the car. And there was like a gate that you have 4 to walk into to go to the back door. And there 5 6 like a little office or - was like a security guard or whatever. And he has in the back.¶

7 And he saw us so he came up to ate. 8 And he asked us what we were there¶

9 And said, Jeffrey.¶

10 And so the guy was lija, , okay. And he 11 opened the gate.¶

12 All three of u in, like, to the back 13 door towards the Cause I guess the 14 kitchen’s right when you open the door.¶

15 So w sitting, like, in a bar like 16 this, an we ere waiting for about 15 minutes. 17 And en Jeffrey and the assistant walked in 18 t oug the back door also. And that’s when I 20 19 Er t met e lady also introduced herself too. And then 21 y the lady was talking to and the other girl 22 for a couple seconds. Jeffrey. And we shook hands. And then¶

23 And then Jeffrey said, who’s going to go 24 first or whatever.¶

25 And and the other girl’s like, I¶

1 don’t care.¶

2 And then Jeffrey’s like, how about you?¶

3 Pointing to me.¶

4 And I was like, okay.¶

5 And then I was, like, looking back at 6 and laughing. And then she was just like 7 her hand to go. And she was laughing t4b4 And I 8 was like, okay. scooted¶

9 So then we — in the kit was like a 10 little hallway, not really, s like a 11 stairway to go upstairs. e were walking up 12 there. And the assis dy walked me up there 13 and as Jeffrey was O ng to them after.¶

14 And the as pointing out like all 15 these pictu all this stuff and then leading 16 me up to a bathroom. It was, like, really 17 big tough. And, like, there was two closets.¶

18 19 20 21 y like, a — a little blanket or whatever over the 22 massage table. ? <; st ul d out the massage table and set it out in ) nd then she went into the one closet and ront of, like, this And then she put,¶

23 And then she opened up a drawer. And there 24 was like a whole bunch of different, like, lotions 25 for getting massages. And she just picked, like,¶

a couple of ‘em out and just set ‘em on the vanity table. There was {sup}abig, big mirror on the other wall opposite to the massage table.¶

And then — and then she told me to get un — well, not undressed, but, like, put — keep your bra and your panties on.¶

And I was like, okay. AiA{sup}r¶

And then she said —¶

Q. Had told you aboutCpefore?¶

A. No. I thought, like, ‘t llw going to be {sup}a massage, like, you keep y othing on.¶

And that — t in the room, that’s when the lady, lik lained what I would have to do. Just to andressed and keep my bra and my panties nd then —¶

Q. A d di you do that?¶

A. Mm- mm.¶

Q. Is that a yes?¶

. Yes. And then to stay in the room for {sup}a ouple seconds, and then Jeffrey would be coming in the room any minute.¶

And then Jeffrey did come in the room. And he said, hi, and he shook my hand again. But then he went out of the room and he got undressed, but he had atowel on. And then he came into the room again and laid belly-down on the massage table.¶

Q. Okay. Stop aminute.¶

What did this man look like? This Jeffrey¶

Epstein?¶

A. Old.¶

Q. How old?¶

A. Um, he looked like 50-ish maybe.¶

A. 40.¶

Q. How was he dressed why y initially met him?¶

A. Like he was go fing. He just had, like, a polo T-shi and khaki pants.¶

Q. Okay. A were you met(sic) when you first went — dressed when you first went to his h se¶

A. Um, was wearing a regular T-shirt, my H lis r shirt, and just some jeans.¶

. Okay. What kind of underwear did you have {sup}1¶

A. A thong.¶

Q. And the bra, what type of bra?¶

A. It was a bra.¶

Q. Okay. No special —¶

A. Uh-uh.¶

1 Q. — certain type. But thong underwear.¶

2 Were you uncomfortable getting down to your 3 bra and underwear?¶

4 A. Uh-huh. Like, at — I was kind of 5 hesitant. I was, like, sitting in the room for — 6 until Jeffrey came in, like, thinking like, to 7 myself, well, like, what’s going on?¶

8 Like, I don’t know. I was ’ of 9 hesitant. But then I just didn’ cause I 10 wanted $200, cause I wanted d it. So I 11 just didn’t care. I jus¶

12 Q. Okay. All rig he comes out and he’s 13 in a towel. Start there.¶

14 A. And then e ike, laid on the massage 15 table, got tlCs stomach. And then he told me, 16 like, to grab n77y"" of the three lotions that she 17 had t down on the table. And so I just grabbed 18 ;se,: ‘em.¶

19 And then I just gave — like, I sat — 20 irst I wasn’t sitting on the table, because he 21A÷ was sitting on the table and it was kind of 22 like — I just stood up. And then I started to 23 give him a massage. And then he’s making 24 conversation, asking me exactly what was 25 going to tell me to do. Like, if — what high¶

1 school do you go to, and all this stuff, so.¶

2 Q. Did he ask you how old you were?¶

3 A. Uh-huh. And I¶

4 Q. And what did you tell him?¶

5 A. I told him I was 18.¶

6 And, um, he asked me, like, what dq I like 7 to do for my spare time.¶

8 And I said, I dance, and al stuff.¶

9 And just asking me small talk.¶

10 And then he’s like, o w , you don’t 11 have to stand up, you ca n the table¶

12 And so I sat o e able and I was giving 13 him a massage. An pink the massage — it was 14 a couple minutrg, e 15 or 20 minutes. And this 15 whole time 16 anything ust conversating about¶

17 And he was telling me how he had another 18 hptise M,n New York, and just a whole bunch of stuff 19 aa I was, like, amused by. And then after like 20 minutes of giving him a massage, or 30 minutes 21 or something — it was around that time, he asked 22 me if I wanted to make an extra hundred dollars. 23 And all — that he’d have to use —¶

24 Q. Before we get there, let me just ask you a 25 couple things. You said that the assistant had¶

you undress?¶

A. Mm-hmm.¶

Q. Is that yes?¶

Q. Do you remember telling Detective Pagan that it was Jeffrey Epstein that asked you to undress? .444{sup}k¶

A. No. I’m, like, positive it ‘t Jeffrey. Cause he didn’t come in the roo after I was already in my underwear and b .¶

Q. Okay. So if that’ 1 er report, that’s incorrect?¶

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Q. All rig en you talk about getting on the table, recall telling Detective Pagan that you ctually straddling him and your —¶

Al o the table. Like, after he — after a couple Thaw’s — yeah. That’s what — when I got n tes.¶

e’ Q. Okay. And you were straddling him with Ag your bare buttocks to his bare buttocks?¶

A. Yeah. Well, kind of. There was towel that — like, it was kind of covering his butt but not really covering his butt. It was like not really covering his butt.¶

But I was laying, like, on his lower back near his butt. But, like, I wasn’t on his butt.¶

Q. So, if she wrote, you stated you exposed your bare buttocks were touching his bare buttocks —¶

A. That’d be kind of correct.¶

Q. Okay. 4A {sup}r¶

A. And then — yeah. {sup}Iguess.¶

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Q. All right.¶

A. You could say that. ( {sup}s¶

Q. So how long did t on when you are sitting on top of him Acs Ӧ

A. The unti e, the massage part was over. And the he, ike, asked, well, would you like to mak nxtra hundred dollars?¶

I said, sure.¶

{sup}I{sup}s And then like, but I, um, have to l’ e, ou’re not going to be giving the massage OyDtore, it’s going to be something different. he’s¶

And I was like, well, what is it?¶

And then he’s like, um, can I use {sup}a vibrator on you?¶

And I said, um, okay.¶

And then — so then he got up and he went into the — his, like, other room for a couple¶

{sup}1seconds; like literally a couple seconds; and then 2 came back in the room.¶

{sup}3And next to the little vanity, big mirror, {sup}4and all this big table there was, like, on the S 6 what — it looked like a vibrator to me. floor, there was just like the vibrator. Or¶

{sup}7Q. What did it look like?¶

8 A. It was, like, 9 it was kind of like a massager {sup}10Like, it looked like a massa t it 11 really a massager. And k ligg /14 Ima) really. wasn’t purple. And like —¶

12 Q. What was it sh¶

13 14 A. Um, like cin the top, and then it was like ahan the bottom.¶

15 Q. Okay right.¶

16 17 18 19 0 21 y like, sometimes 22 cause the {sup}23right there, so it was kind of close. A. um, after he grabbed that he laid back the table, and — except this time he was {sup}ohis ack. And I was partially on the table, O S’ lc , half of my butt cheek and my leg was on the able, and the one leg was on the floor. And, I’d put it on the Like, was right here and the table was¶

{sup}24And I — he told me to keep giving him {sup}a {sup}25massage, but to give a massage on his chest.¶

Q. So you’re sitting on the table now and he’s standing up?¶

A. No, no, no. He was laying back on the table, but like I was kind of on the table. Like, half my butt and my leg was on the table, and the other half was, like, par — like, on Like, I was holding —¶

Q. Okay. But he’s laying¶

A. And, um, then I g a massage on his chest and he was stil {sup}lng for a couple minutes. And then ed the vibrator. And, like, that was r • e 10 minutes maybe or so, {sup}I think. And e —¶

Q. — I have to be detailed here. Wher was he using the vibrator?¶

A. Can I say — along my vagina.¶

. Okay.¶

A. I don’t know what else to say.¶

Q. All right. Go ahead.¶

A. Okay. And then — and then after for {sup}a couple minutes that’s what he was doing. And then he jerked off for like a couple minutes.¶

Like, I was still on the table. And¶

1 told me that if — if you — like, if he does 2 that, then you have to get more money, because 3 that’s like — he gives you extra money if he 4 jerks off anyways. Cause I guess it’s some — 5 like his (indiscernible) or whatever. And¶

6 Q. And had told you that before’)¶

7 A. Mm-hmm. She — I — she told m 8 like, the night that I, like, had 9 conversation with her, and she about it. hole¶

10 Q. Okay. So she just di ‘t 11 you you were 11 going for a massage, she ou that there — 12 you might have to tak u clothes off?¶

13 A. No. She di ell me that I would had to 14 take my clothes f ut she said that if he jerks 15 off in fron p u, then you can get more money.¶

16 Q. O ay. o when he offered you the extra 17 hundr d do lars, you had a pretty good idea what 18 w co ing next?¶

19 . Yeah.¶

20 Q. Okay.¶

21 A. And, um¶

22 Q. And when you say “jerked off” what do you 23 mean?¶

24 A. He put his hand on his penis, and started 25 going up and down kind of fast.¶

Q. Okay. Could you see his penis at that point?¶

Q. Is that a yes?¶

Q. All right. Go ahead.¶

That went on for how long? {sup}44 0,¶

A. A couple seconds maybe. Li eah, like, 40 seconds. And then nafter that, like, the massage was {sup}e¶

And he went into out of the door back to wherever he g couldn’t see where he was going cause th was this way and he walked out. An I ess he had like {sup}a— his money behin oor, cause it only took a couple of secon him to come back in the room.¶

And then he opened his money, like, his {sup}w, a d gave me three hundred dollar bills. And ol me, thank you. And I —¶

vAnd then he’s like — there was a note pad there next to the — and told me to write my name and my number; cause I had acell phone at the time. And he told me to write my cell phone number down, and how he could get hold of me and all this stuff.¶

1 So I wrote my number down, and wrote my 2 name. And then after that he just left the room 3 and told me I could get dressed again and that it 4 was done. I was over.¶

5 Q. Did you actually see him ejaculate?¶

6 A. No.¶

7 Q. Okay. Did he not ejaculate or idn’t 8 see that? O¶

9 A. If he did, I didn’t see.¶

10 Q. Okay. Do you recall -11 Detective 11 Pagan it happened in a ci s e t sequence?¶

12 A. No.¶

13 Q. And that he rbated first before he put 14 the vibrator o vagina?¶

15 A. Mmm,i$iaa. This was like two and a half 16 years ag¶

17 Q. Okay.¶

18 that could have happened.¶

19 Do you recall not telling her about the 20 ibrator at all¶

21 A. Yeah.¶

22 Q. — the first time you talked to her?¶

23 A. Yeah I remember that. Because I was 24 scared.¶

25 Q. Okay. Why were you scared about that and¶

not scared about telling her that he ejaculated in front of you — or masturbated in front of you?¶

A. Cause that’s his body, and the vibrator’s on my body.¶

Q. So you didn’t want to admit that you had allowed him to touch you?¶

A. Yeah. Alpic¶

Q. Okay. And he gave you $300?¶

Q. You left your number s hlydould contact you again?¶

Q. Okay. WhenAiks{sup}e ft the room, what happened?¶

You t rssed. Did he take you downstai s, go downstairs by yourself?¶

I ) st went downstairs by myself.¶

Q. owas down there? Was still down hNioe?¶

A. Uh-huh. The — was there, and the other girl was there. And the assistant lady, she might have been there, but I don’t know. I can’t remember.¶

But then after that, we left. Like, they didn’t do anything. They didn’t — she got money but she didn’t do anything.¶

Q. MEM — who? Who is “she”?¶

A. MEM.. did.¶

Q. Okay. Do you know how much money got?¶

A. I think it was $300 too.¶

A. Or maybe 200. 300.¶

Q. Do you know what that wa¶

A. No. At the time I — tAbbght maybe she did something with someb ein the house. But then I was, like, {sup}nng there was only Jeffrey and the la {sup}tre. Like, I didn’t think anything of it.¶

Q. But ulearn that she got money for bringing ere?¶

A. Yeah. I kind of figured that when I got b k h me. Like, I was thinking about it for {sup}a i e. And I realized, well, it’s probably cause e brought me.¶

y Q. Okay. Did you discuss with what happened up in that room?¶

A. Yes. Then when we got in the — the, um — back in her truck, um, at first we were all like, um, II let’s go. Let’s go spend our money.¶

Then she was like, Ill, what happened? What did you do? How much money did you get?¶

And I was like, I got $300. And I was like, kind — I was excited. $300.¶

And then she was like, you got 300? What did you have to do with him?¶

And then she told — or I told - or her what I did. Ac;:r¶

And then she’s like, Um, I’ve done that too, blah, blah.¶

And like, you cou - he was — then she told me, like, what -r a — like if you do this it’s — you get t that. And she lling me, like, all this stuff. you do this, and then get¶

I was, like, laughing about it. Caused was t lin me that I’d have to get in my bra. like, yeah, thanks, you know, for¶

And she’s like, II, sorry. And she’s + aughing. And then the other girl starts laughing too. And then we all laughed together.¶

And then — then we went to T.J.Maxx and she got a purse. And I didn’t spend any of my money. I kept it in my — I wanted to spend it, but I didn’t want to spend it at T.J.Maxx. {sup}I¶

1 wanted to go to the mall or something. So then I 2 kept it in my — my house. Like, my purse and 3 stuff. And —¶

4 Q. Let me stop you there.¶

5 When you’re in the car back with . 6 going back, did you and discuss do i g this 7 again so you could earn more money?¶

9 Q. Okay. CO ‘S¶

8 A. Yeah.¶

10 A. I think —¶

11 Q. Um —¶

AS;)¶

12 A. — we had. Sh didn’t plan a — like 13 any certain date, s just like — we didn’t, 14 like, plan thi like, again, we didn’t plan, 15 plan it. ust like — she was like, II’ 16 well, if you er need money again you can always 17 call e and you can come with me.¶

18 And I said, okay.¶

19 . You don’t recall telling Detective Pagan 20 at you made plans to do this every Saturday so 21 you could get rich?¶

22 A. II, yeah. II yeah. Well, it wasn’t like a 23 plan, plan. It was kind of like an imaginary kind 24 of — every Saturday. Like¶

25 Q. Okay.¶

A. — it wasn’t for sure.¶

Q. Did you go back to Jeffrey Epstein’s house to give him other massages?¶

A. I did not.¶

A. When I was on the phone with the detective, we pretended for ; cause she was /// {sup}ohe other line; we pretended that I was going t1 do ack, but — just so she could say some But {sup}I never did.¶

Q. Okay. So you did with rolled phone call¶

‘Cc Q. Trying to t der to make admissions?¶

“S aw’ Q. I h yes?¶

A. Yew.¶

Q.IC?:11ray.¶

All right. Was there another reason you rt of didn’t go back? That some people might have found out about it or were talking about you?¶

{sup}Y A. Yeah. Um, that’s what I was going to get to.¶

At school, um, I had, like, my best friend. And I told her in dance class; cause that’s my¶

first period, that was my first period class. And, like, right when I got back to school I had the $300 on — in my purse with me.¶

make $300, you can come with me, and take you. And I didn’t say her name, I said like, my friend will take you. And all you h to do is give him a massage and stuff. An t d her what I did. ( : 42) And I told her, like, if you ever want to will¶

I didn’t tell her everyt I didn’t tell her the — the vibrator p just left that out. But I told her e^v r ng else.¶

And, um, she k f laughed and giggled. And she’s like, . I’ll keep that in mind. And then, um¶

Q. {sup}Whis person that you told?¶

th A. and — well, she was in {sup}vrsation, but she’s, like, didn’t say ing to anybody.¶

2liali?\ Q. A. She didn’t — she didn’t say anything at first until everybody else found out.¶

And then — well, after I told , the rest of the day goes by. And she was telling¶

people, and, like, telling everybody in school.¶

And then I was like — I saw her in my gym class that same day and I just confronted her.¶

I was like, well, why are you telling people? And that’s kind of my business. And {sup}I kind of told you to be nice and not to, like, go around telling people. You’re suppose be my best friend. And then she just lau• about it. So then we got in an altercatio • e gym room.¶

Q. Was that a fight?¶

Q. You had a figh g;¶

A. I we got n{sup}afight. And, um, that’s when I had to go t the Principal’s office.¶

And told why she got in the fight with me. An told her why she — why we got in afi ht. d I kind of — we — at first we both ied about why, cause — or I did.¶

incipal she was spreading rumors about me. And then — and then I was — just told the¶

And then , I guess, told the Principal why, like, for real.¶

And so then the Principal, when I had to go in the room, she was like, let me see in your purse.¶

1 And I said, why?¶

2 And she’s like — asked me if I had any 3 money.¶

4 And I said, no, I don’t have any money on 5 me.¶

6 And then she said, like, you don’t have to 7 lie. You’re not going to be in trouble Give me 8 your purse. Act,¶

9 And then I gave her my pu nd she 10 found the $300. And she asked w I got it.¶

11 And I say, I work ; cause at 12 the time I really did r¶

13 And, um —¶

14 Q. Why did y li to the Assistant Principal?¶

15 A. Cause ‘t think it was, like, any of 16 her busi s 7 ke, why we were arguing or 17 anything.¶

18 A d I thought, why would I tell on myself 19 — if she doesn’t really know anything yet? 777¶

20 But then she really did know, cause told her.¶

22 And then she — after she showed — like, 23 after she took my purse and she looked at the 24 $300, and she she didn’t believe what I said, 25 like, at all.¶

And I just kept lying and, like, saying, no, I got it from . My work, my work.¶

And then she said, you don’t have to lie. I know — I know what happened.¶

And she called my step mom. And my step mom came to the school. And my step mom said, like, you didn’t get $300 from your pay eck. You’re lying. And then that’s when - hat’s when, like, I don’t know, every ’ ind of came out.¶

And then I —¶

Q. You didn’t tel did you lie to A{sup}c ) Ack$arents at first so Atcy them\ ?¶

A. I said I a d in drugs, and I was dealing them. Like, I e up any kind of lie. I didn’t want to mwhat happened.¶

Q. Di here come {sup}atime when Detective Pagan g {sup}emessages on your phone?¶

From¶

Q. From¶

‘d e’ A. ?¶

Yeah. She — II. Well, after that whole thing, my cell phone was taken away. So, yeah, she had my cell phone from that day until she until I moved to¶

And she — like, my mom, I think she still has it, or the Court or whatever has my cell phone.¶

Q. You talked about telling your mom you were doing drugs — or selling drugs?¶

A. Yeah. I just —¶

Q. Which one? AillA{sup}r¶

A. My just — both. I just k of — my dad’s arguing with me, and I jusp.. of told ‘em, well, I’m a drug dealer.¶

Q. Okay. So you — y had a problems with drugs though, haven’t yc o”¶

A. I did.¶

Not a pro , {sup}Iexperimented.¶

Q. Didn’ parents actually send you away to a reh ion center because of it?¶

A. ToYfaamily help center —¶

Okay.¶

?4°S,1 to be specific or whatever.¶

,0+ because I had a lot of family, like, getting-along It was because of that, but it was also problems. Like, I argued with my parents alot.¶

Q. Were you doing drugs during the time that you went to Jeffrey Epstein’s house?¶

A. Um, no. Well, the only — the only drug¶

that I did that time was pot. Like, I smoked it sometimes. I didn’t do, like, drug drugs, like bad kind of drugs.¶

Q. Do you still do pot?¶

Q. Do you have a MySpace.com account?¶

A. Yes. I have a MySpace.¶

Q. On there you talk about doing¶

A. No, I don’t talk about it¶

There’s like {sup}a— like, kyttle thing where it says create, like, own thingy.¶

And it asks ques i like {sup}a— {sup}asurvey; that’s the word I’ 1 i {sup}g like, they just q estions. And it says, have you ever don for; a survey about —¶

A I d, yeah.¶

Ha you — it says, have you ever done¶

Okay. It asks alot of questions about u, right?¶

A. Yes. But I also did delete that MySpace YYY and I did a good one. I —¶

A. I delete — cause my parents found out.¶

Q. So you had one that wasn’t real good?¶

Q. That you’d lied about your age on, said were you 18 on?¶

A. No. I didn’t say I was 18.¶

Q. This your account?¶

Q. Here with, ? Female, 18 ye old.¶

Lives in ?¶

A. Yes, but I didn’t do this OS¶

All mines have, like, Co Ings in the back. Like, mine — I wo n:ver make an ugly one.¶

Q. IfliellOdo have more fun.¶

Q. You’ ARrIMI?¶

A. Y u — and I have that ex — like, those exaZYsame things on my old one.¶

had, like, not in what it says about that little sentence¶

A. that’s not — I didn’t make that.¶

Q. So when you’re talking about that survey you answered, it says your — your choice of alcohol. And you put beer?¶

Q. Do you drink beer?¶

A. At parties.¶

Q. Okay. It says you have four piercings?¶

A. Not anymore. Now I only — well, I used to have my belly button pierced.¶

Q. It takes — you have to be 18 in the state of Florida to have body piercings other t an your ears? How —¶

A. My dad —¶

Q. How did you get those?¶

A. My dad took me to belly button pierced for my 14th bi Cause, like, everybody was getti so {sup}Ibegged for it.¶

And then ‘us got my nose pierced, so.¶

Q. Did y to provide identification for your nos prove you were 18?¶

A. No, y dad — my dad let me.¶

Q. Y ur dad, okay.¶

So you didn’t have false identification at at time?¶

Q. Okay. So you said yes to drinking and smoking? Smoking pot?¶

Q. There’s a question, do you shoplift?¶

1 Do you recall what you put for that?¶

2 A. I did.¶

3 Q. What — you did shoplift?¶

4 A. Like, yeah, a couple times.¶

5 Q. Did you recall putting, lots of times, on 6 your site?¶

7 A. Maybe. Aimc¶

8 This was a long time ago, s¶

9 Q. Okay. You reported inco e 250,000¶

10 A. As a joke.¶

— on that site? 11 Q. o PII)¶

12 A. Yeah. It’s a¶

13 Like, all nds do that, cause it’s 14 kind of funny d dom and stupid.¶

15 Q. Okay it’s not that you’re making money 16 elsewher —¶

17 Aottot. It¶

18 0.V - doing similar activity?¶

19 was just kind of stupid.¶

(::) 20 It’s like a joke.¶

21 Q. Okay. Did you ever make arrangements with¶

22 to go back to Jeffrey Epstein’s house in¶

23 April of 2005?¶

24 A. Not when I was with her.¶

25 Maybe on a phone conversation, like, with¶

1 that detective, but not ever when I was with her.¶

2 Q. Did you ever talk to about going back 3 in April of 2005?¶

4 A. I really don’t think so.¶

5 Q. Okay.¶

6 All right. At this point I’m goi to ask 7 the grand jurors if they have any que for 8 you.¶

9 A. Okay.¶

5 11) 10 Q. Okay?¶

11 A(;) A JUROR: W e you live now?¶

12 A Lw? A ir THE WIT •• live in .¶

13 A JU here?¶

14 ESS:¶

16 1 v:ccis in 15 ROR: Did you say that before you¶

17 THE WITNESS: Yes. I moved to¶

in July, with my mother.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: Your mother — your stepmother and father sent you up there to get away from the activities down here?¶

22 THE WITNESS: No. I moved with my 23 mom.¶

24 When I was with my dad, like, after 25 this all happened, my mom and my dad were¶

1 arguing. And I didn’t like my dad anymore. 2 3 I — I just felt like living back with mom. So then I moved with my mom.¶

4 5 6 And that’s when I went to the family center; like, is what it’s called. And then after that, my m m had 7 planned on moving to been 8 planning for, like, 2 years ire any of 9 this ever happened. And inally found 10 a house in oved, and I 11 moved with them.¶

12 A JUROR: A4$!ave any idea deep 13 down insid u that you — what your 14 doing i r ?¶

15 ITNESS: Yeah. I did.¶

(r) 17 Have you —¶

16 JUROR: II, do you?¶

18 THE WITNESS: II I¶

19 A JUROR: Have you set the goals of 20 O to not do it anymore?¶

21 THE WITNESS: Yes. I don’t — 22 haven’t talked to any of those people since 23 that day.¶

24 A JUROR: And you’re well aware 25 that — what you’re doing to your own 1 reputation.¶

2 THE WITNESS: Yes. I do.¶

3 4 MS. BELOHLAVEK: You aware that you committed a crime?¶

5 6 THE WITNESS: Now I am. I didn’t know it was a crime when I was doi g it.¶

7 8 9 Like, I — I don’t know. I — I guess it’s prostitution or L hing like that.¶

10 MS. BELOHLAVEK: An ther questions?¶

12 13 You sai orked at You were 14 were working at¶

14 15 ITNESS: Yeah, in¶

16 hen they, like, first let you work, 17 when you’re 14.¶

19 Th:you’re living back now with your father in 18 A JUROR: Okay. Now you’re work the meantime?¶

21 THE WITNESS: (No audible response).¶

22 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Anybody else in the 23 front row?¶

24 Second row. Yes, sir.¶

25 A JUROR: Um, you kept saying¶

1 Jeffrey’s assistant. Do you know her name?¶

2 THE WITNESS: No. 3 was blond haired, and she was tall and 4 skinny. I don’t remember her name. I know that she¶

5 A JUROR: Okay.¶

6 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Yes, sir. n the 7 back row.¶

8 A JUROR: Yes.¶

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9 Miss yo ver go back 10 to Mr. Epstein’s on¶

11 THE WITNESS’ N,/sir, I didn’t.¶

12 A JUROR: 13 with your one? ever contact you¶

14 r called you?¶

15 16 p one 4(; )aken away. Like WITNESS: No. Because I got my¶

17 A JUROR: Did you¶

18 ll’Ir ’ THE WITNESS: — right when I was in 19 (4% trouble.¶

2 21 %•-1 behavior was a little strange? A JUROR: — ever feel that his¶

22 THE WITNESS: That’s what we all 23 joked about in the car.¶

24 A JUROR: Yeah, but did it ever occur 25 to you that he could have hacked you up?¶

1 THE WITNESS: I — now I think about 2 it. And a lot of things could have 3 happened. I thought about it a lot.¶

4 And a lot —¶

5 6 A JUROR: Should give it a little further thought.¶

7 8 could have happened. THE WITNESS: differen ngs AR/0,¶

9 10 MS. BELOHLAVEK: r questions for Miss ?¶

11 All right. h you very much. t oӦ

12 13 ,.Slis,o, THE WITN •• hank you. (Wit cused.)¶

14 ( JOE RECAREY RECALLED)¶

15 UGGAN: I’ll go ahead.¶

16 17 (54 Joe Recarey. for the record, this is Detective¶

18 I don’t need to re-swear you in. 19 We’ll just remind you, you’re under oath. ti lliir¶

THE WITNESS: Okay. 22÷ Nh,2¶

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21 MS. DUGGAN: Okay.¶

22 CONTINUED EXAMINATION¶

23 BY MS. BELOHLAVEK:¶

24 Q. Detective Recarey, let’s go back to the 25 investigation before you took over; it’s still 1 Detective Pagan. There’s mention in her report of 2 trash pulls.¶

3 What’s a trash pull?¶

4 A. A trash pull is when you make arrangements 5 with the supervisor of sanitation to have the 6 trash man go onto the property, remove th trash, 7 and place it in the empty well of the truck. 8 And you follow ‘em to a different ( 44:5 ‘on, then 9 you retrieve the bags from the¶

10 Q. How is it that you c ta things off 11 someone’s property witho a arch warrant in 12 that way? Is it perms because it’s been 13 discarded?¶

14 A. It’s di It’s trash.¶

15 It w s i the truck. We just take 16 possessi n o it from the truck.¶

17 Q. Okay. April 1, 2005, was there a trash 18 p 1 a Jeffrey Epstein’s house?¶

19 . Correct.¶

20 (::) Q. Okay. Do you know what was found when they 21 examined the trash from his home?¶

22 A. Several messages with phone numbers written 23 on it with girls’ names, and different messages.¶

24 Q. Did any of the messages that you’ve had a 25 chance to look at talk about any of the girls you¶

22 April 1. 18 A. There were controlled phone calls 19 Cr een was making phone calls to + 20 Ihsflor us, as part of the investigation. made 21 the appointment to bring over at 11 a.m. for¶

23 Q. But never went there?¶

24 A. No.¶

25 Q. Okay. Now were there any messages¶

1 found out through your investigation had gone to 2 Jeffrey Epstein’s house?¶

3 A. That is correct. The names and phone 4 numbers were of girls that have gone to the house 5 and left little messages. I have girls for him. 6 You know, for a good time call me type of, thing.¶

Q. Okay. Was there a message indic3Lg that 8 had an appointment in April?¶

9 A. Yes.¶

10 Q. And what time did h re an appointment 11 in April?¶

12 A. 11 a.m.¶

13 Q. Okay. ` w if Detective Pagan had 14 taken voice ’ phone where 15 was confirm sting with¶

16 A. R¶

17 Q. — to go there at 11:00?¶

1 indicating that someone named or someone 2 named has appointments to go to Mr. Epstein’s 3 house?¶

4 A. Yes. There was several mentions of 5 and¶

6 Q. Were you able to identify who and 7 were?¶

8 A. Yes, I did. Later on in th ’ stigation 9 we discovered that 10 , another was a School 11 student who still attend i7. was the 12 other girl that was f e ing Epstein’s house.¶

13 Q. How old wa y at that time?¶

14 A. I belie s was 16.¶

15 Q. And d was¶

16 A. Through the investigation I 17 foun ut she started going to the house when she 18 w 1 or had just turned 16.¶

19 . And how long of a time did she continue to {sup}20Qo there?¶

21Ae ’ A. Till she turned 18.¶

22 Q. Okay. Was there a trash pull on 23 September 21st of 2005?¶

24 I guess this is after you’ve taken over the 25 investigation.¶

1 A. Correct.¶

2 Q. Okay. Was there a trash pull that day?¶

4 Q. Did you find anything interesting in that 5 trash pull?¶

6 A. Um, I’m trying to get to —¶

7 e’ Q. Maybe page 24, 25 of your report.¶

8 Page 24.¶

9 A. The date was September? (f5:il d¶

10 Q. September 21st.¶

11 A. Okay.¶

12 Yes.¶

13 Q. What did yo in that trash pull?¶

14 A. I had nom s th the name , with her 15 phone numbe well as 16 call And — ; for a good time¶

,<5$ 1C)¶

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17 Q. Were you able to identify ?¶

18 A. Yes.¶

19 • Who is ? ( .4%¶

22e’s) A. is¶

21 Q. And what about ? Were you able to 22 identify ?¶

23 A. Yes. Through the investigation I was able 24 to find out that 25 is actually¶

1 Q. Can you spell¶

2 A.¶

3 Q. And how old was she at the time?¶

4 A. 17.¶

5 Q. Okay. Another trash pull on October 3, 6 2005?¶

7 A. Correct. AiAr¶

8 Q. Anything interesting found ’ ttiat trash 9 pull?¶

10 A. October 3rd.¶

11 What page are you c)¶

12 Q. Page 26. Page a report dictated by 13 Officer Crowell.¶

14 A. Curtis w correct.¶

15 Q. Okay¶

16 A. T y¶

17 Q. In there he indicates that in the trash 18 p 1 t ey located a hard plastic or clear acrylic 19 ti which was shaped with small ridges. This 20 )evice is commonly used as a sexual toy which is 21 inserted into the vagina or anus for stimulation. 22 Was that type of item actually found?¶

23 A. Um, the device was actually found. But 24 later on in the search warrant it was discovered 25 that it was actually the handle of the —¶

1 Q. For the silverware?¶

2 A. — for forks — for forks and knives.¶

3 Q. Okay. So it wasn’t something we would call 4 a vibrator or a dildo?¶

5 A. No.¶

6 Q. Okay. It appeared that way to him, but you 7 were able to confirm later it was not?¶

8 A. Right.¶

9 Q. Okay.¶

c4rom your 10 All right. You are i 11 investigation and talkin o tective Pagan, that Ac 12 said s a initiated into going 13 to Jeffrey Epstei h se by someone named 14¶

15 A. Corr c .¶

16 Q. W e ever able to talk to¶

17 A. Yes, I did.¶

18 Q. 11;When was that?¶

19 . October 3, 2005.¶

• 21 A. Sergeant Frick and I went to her house out 22 in , knocked on the door, and asked her 23 to come back to the station for further 24 questioning reference this investigation.

20 (::) Q. Where did that take place?¶

25 Q. How old was ?¶

1 A. had just graduated from high school, 2 from School.¶

3 Q. Okay. Was she a minor at the time or an 4 adult? Do you recall?¶

5 A. Well, in the — at the time she would have 6 been a — an adult.¶

7 Q. When —¶

44 0,,¶

8 A. At the time of the interviews¶

9 Q. When you talked to her.¶

10 Did she talk to you y at her house?¶

11 A. No, she came back t s to the police 12 department for furthe e ioning.¶

13 Q. She was un o able talking at her house? 14 She told you s w ed to do it elsewhere?¶

15 A. Um, o to just — I wanted to go over 16 document th 2 I didn’t have with me, with her — 17 Q. Okay.¶

18 4,4;;; at the¶

9 . So when did she come to the police 0 epartment?¶

21 Y A. That same day.¶

22 Q. What did tell you?¶

23 A. During a sworn taped statement she stated 24 that she became in contact with Mr. Jeffrey 25 Epstein when she was 17, when she was approached¶

1 by a friend with an opportunity to make money. 2 She was taken to the Epstein’s residence. She was 3 told that she would have to provide a massage, and 4 make $200.¶

5 She was taken to the house, she was 6 introduced to his — Epstein’s assistant py the 7 name of Sarah. Sarah then would escor 8 upstairs, prepare the room for the ge by 9 putting out the ointments and t e erent oils.¶

10 Mr. Epstein came into he oom. He 11 demanded she remove her g. She did so. 12 She started giving th s ogee, rubbing his back, 13 his calves and th is . He turned onto his back, 14 asked her to r 15 16 y ’ I’m uncomfortable with you touching 17 me. ‘11 give you the massage but I’m 18 u om rtable with you touching me. chest. As he did so he tried to touch he A , ma t ch her buttocks. She pulled awa , s sa¶

19 It was at which time he said, I know you’re 20 ncomfortable If you bring me girls I will pay 21 you to bring me girls.¶

22 Q. So he didn’t make her do anything she was 23 uncomfortable with?¶

24 A. Right.¶

25 Q. Okay. How did she indicate that she first¶

1 met anybody that knew Jeffrey Epstein?¶

2 A. She was approached by one of her friends in¶

3 by the name of , unknown last¶

4 name. I was never —¶

5 Q. You never¶

6 A. — able to identify —¶

7 Q. — determine — 44 0,¶

8 A. — who was, who actua ‘s took her to 9 Epstein’s house and introduced o the 10 household.¶

11 Q. Okay. Were you a o determine the 12 approximate date when t this who took 13 her to Epstein’s¶

14 A. Sometim she turned 17, she told me.¶

15 Q. Okay she was 17 when she first went 16 there?¶

17 A. isztlrioycm.¶

18 Q. All right. When he talked to her about 19 ri ging other girls to him, since she’s 20 uncomfortable, what was her response to him?¶

21 A. She agreed to bring the girls to him. And 22 he told her, the younger, the better.¶

23 She brought a 23-year old to massage him, 24 and he told her that she was too old and he wanted 25 someone younger.¶

1 Knowing that she went to¶

2 School, he recommended that she ask her 3 friends.¶

4 During the statement she gave me 5 approximately six names that she can remember that 6 she took to the house that all went to 7 School.¶

8 Q. Who did tell you she yagto the 9 house?¶

10 A. Um, 11 , and the 14 12 year old victim,¶

13 Q.¶

14 Did you k 1011. if she told these people 15 what to exp en she took them to Jeffrey 16 Epstein’¶

17 A She explained that all the girls knew what 18 w to be expected. The more you did, the more 19 on you made. She explained that there was 20 oing to be a massage or some possible touching, 21 and you would have to provide the massage either 22 topless or naked.¶

23 Q. And she told you that she told that?¶

24 A. She said that she told all the girls that.¶

25 Q. Okay. During your conversations with¶

1 , did she refer to herself as somebody 2 famous?¶

3 A. On the ride back, back to her house, she 4 had stated that she was the — she was like Heidi 5 Fleiss, the Hollywood Madam that provided girls to 6 clients.¶

7 Q. Did — you may have told his 8 earlier, and I apologize if I didn’ ar it — 9 did undress when she prov e massage?¶

10 A. Yes. She provided th- ge naked, under 11 the direction of¶

12 Q. Not just down underwear?¶

13 A. No. I bel was naked.¶

14 Q. Okay. D was there ever any indication 15 of a vibrat described, with ?¶

16 A. she — she was aware of the 17 vibr¶

18 Q. From ? Q.¶

1 2 Was paid money, did she tell you, for 22 bringing these other girls?¶

349 2 • Okay.¶

Vibrator slash, massager.¶

24 Q. How much money?¶

25 A. She was paid approximately $200 for every¶

1 girl she brought.¶

2 Q. Just one time per girl or every time she 3 brought a girl did she get another $200?¶

4 A. Every time she brought a girl she got $200.¶

5 Q. Even if it was the same girl over and over?¶

6 A. Correct.¶

7 4. Okay.¶

8 All right. You found the c at says, 9 for a good time call 10 identify her as MEMMEMMEM7::) (::) e able to¶

11 A. Correct.¶

12 Q. Did you get a nt from¶

13 A. Yes, I did. hat time was 14 already attendi, dJ lege, she had started¶

15¶

16 S e st fed that nothing inappropriate had 17 occur ed originally, and then explained that, you 18 kk w, e had — Epstein had tried to touch her on 19 e al occasions.¶

(41 211e. .) Q. Did she change her statement at some point 21 to you?¶

22 A. Well, originally she started off saying 23 that nothing had — nothing inappropriate had 24 occurred. Further questioning, she had changed, 25 that there was additional things that had¶

1 happened.¶

2 Q. Okay. What did she say the additional 3 things were that happened?¶

4 A. There was attempted touching. He had 5 caressed her buttocks cheeks.¶

6 All the while he had he had int oduced 7 the vibrator, but did not — she did n low a 8 vibrator to be used on her. AR/0, 777¶

9 She described the vibrat ng a huge 10 head on the tip of the vibra r ite in color.¶

11 Q. Now was this — it p essed in the first 12 time she was there to 3 t assage to touching to 13 vibrator, or were As numerous times she went to 14 his house?¶

15 A. NumeytusttImes that she went to his house. 16 This all essed as more times she came to the 17 house more things started to occur.¶

18 19 OS Q. How many times did she go to Jeffrey s r ein’s house?¶

20 A. Off the top of my head, I — she stated 21 y that she had been there many times.¶

22 Q. All right. The last known time that she 23 told you about was when?¶

24 A. Was in October. The last time Mr. Epstein 25 was in town, October 3rd or 4th of 2005.¶

1 Q. Okay. Do you know of any of the girls that 2 say they went to his house after 2005?¶

3 A. No. I don’t believe Mr. Epstein has been 4 back. He learned of the investigation in October.¶

5 Q. Okay. Was she paid by Jeffrey Epstein? 6 A. Yes.¶

7 Q. Do you know how much she was pa¶

8 A. She was paid between 200 an 0.¶

9 Q. Each time?¶

10 A. Each time that she we t.¶

11 Q. Did she get any o , mpensation other 12 than money from him?¶

13 A. She also rec. a rental car, which as of 14 this date I thin she’s still driving it, 15 from Dollar e Car.¶

16 Q. O ay. ere you able to confirm through the 17 rent car hat it was rented by Mr. Epstein or 18 s eon in his —¶

19 . It was —¶

2? ÷ O . Q. employ?¶

21 A. — rented by — it was rented by Mr. — his 22 houseman, Janusz Banasiak, with a credit card of 23 Mr. Epstein’s.¶

24 Q. Okay. Were you able to get a statement 25 from the person you identified as ?¶

1 A. That is correct.¶

2 Q. When did that occur?¶

3 A. On October 10th I had made telephone¶

4 contact with her; she was up in¶

5 Florida. And I had explained to her that I was¶

6 conducting this investigation.¶

7 Miss began to cry. Explai that she¶

8 had been to the house hundreds of ’ Started¶

9 going there at the age of 16, w ( 11: was still¶

10 attending ool. Where she¶

11 was offered to — $200 f mutes of work.¶

12 Q. How was she in d to him?¶

13 whoA. She was to him by a friend of hers¶

14 also had go School,¶

15¶

16 Q. O¶

17 A. She was taken to the house. She would have¶

18 t pe orm this massage naked.¶

19 She knew that before she went?¶

20 A. That was explained to her by¶

21 Q. Okay. What did she describe about that¶

22 first visit to Jeffrey Epstein’s house?¶

23 A. She recalled that the appointment was set¶

24 up for that same day. They contacted¶

25 Mr. Epstein’s assistant, Sarah; later identified¶

1 as ; where the appointment was made. 2 She was taken. She remembered it was on the 3 weekends because she only worked on the weekends, 4 as she was still going to high school.¶

5 She was taken upstairs to the 6 bedroom. She could observe in the spiral 7 staircase up to the bedroom area there 8 photographs of naked women through the house.¶

9 Q. Adult women?¶

10 A. I believe so.¶

11 Q. Okay. She goes u t what happens 12 upstairs?¶

13 A. She’s take the room. The room is set 14 up, the massage a s are set up, ointments are 15 put out by r ellen. Epstein enters the room 16 and intr himself to her. He lays on the 17 mass e table and asks her to get comfortable.¶

18 She stated that she couldn’t remember if 19 he rovided the massage naked, but knows that she 20 emoved — she had — I’m sorry she had rubbed 21 his legs, thighs, and feet.¶

22 All during this time Epstein turned on to 23 his back so that she could rub his chest, and he 24 started to masturbate.¶

25 Q. Okay.¶

1 2 3 A. Which was another thing, one of the other girls — every time there was a massage, Epstein would masturbate himself.¶

4 5 Q. Was she able to see his penis or was it under the towel he had come out in?¶

6 7 A. He had exposed his penis to her. emoved the towel which made it visible. 4640,¶

8 How long did 0. that go on?¶

9 10 A. She had been to his hous period that she stated, hund -d in a 2-year times.¶

11 Q. I meant the mastu¶

12 A. M, It wa everal minutes.¶

13 14 Q. Okay. Did ch her at all that first time?¶

15 16 A. Um, eve he did use the vibrator on her, if¶

17 18 Q. I’mgoing to direct f S 1 paragraph halfway you to page 39, second down.¶

19 Okay.¶

20 21 Q. I believe your report says Epstein touched her breast?¶

22 A. Yes.¶

23 24 Q. Okay. So at that point he touched her breast. Do you recall¶

25 A. Right. AR/ole¶

1 O. — if the vibrator was uses that first time 2 or if it was just the touching¶

4 Q. — of her breast?¶

5 A. No. He did touch her breasts as he 6 masturbated.¶

7 Q. Was she paid money for that visit¶

8 A. $200.¶

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9 Q. Did she go back to his h oӦ

10 A. Yes, she did.¶

11 Q. And I guess you’v us, for about 12 2 years she went back¶

13 Is that a y ?¶

14 A. Yes. <1;l5r¶

15 Q. She es over a hundred times?¶

16 A. Y s. e does.¶

17 Q. Di the situation with progress?¶

18 A. It did. During the time frame that she was 19 t ding there, over the 2-year period, she 20 ated that every time she went there it didn’t 2 Ot ÷1 have to be involving the massage or any kind of 22 sexual encounter. At times that she would go, she 23 would end up just having dinner or talking with 24 Epstein.¶

25 At one point Epstein introduced his other¶

1 assistant,¶

2 She explained that he had brought her from 3 Yugoslavia to the United States to be his sex 4 slave.¶

5 Q. Were you ever able to confirm that?¶

6 A. I know that she is here on a visa, a 7 modeling visa. AiAr¶

8 Q. You don’t know the purpose here, 9 other than you were able to con e visa?¶

10 A. Yes.¶

11 Q. Okay.¶

12 A. She’s here for¶

13 14 Q. What did of sex acts? cribe as the progression¶

15 A. He i ed Nada into their routine.¶

16 Q. came a threesome at some point?¶

17 A. Rig¶

18 Q. Okay.¶

19 . He had asked to perform oral sex on 20 Pada. originally had refused. He enticed 21 her by giving her additional monies to perform 22 this act for 5 minutes.¶

23 Q. How much additional money?¶

24 A. 200 — $200 extra.¶

25 Q. And then she agreed?¶

10 deformed penis 9 She had stated that Mr. had a and did not want have any kind 11 of intercourse with him.¶

1 A. At which point she agreed.¶

2 Q. Okay. Was it always just the masturbating 3 in front of and sex acts with Nada, or were 4 there additional sex acts with Jeff Epstein?¶

5 A. It was explained that at one point towards 6 the end, prior to turning 18 or just after, 7 it was — it had been previously spokenL at there 8 would be no vaginal penetration by Mr Epstein.¶

12 It was after o 4o7,Xhe — where they had 13 purchased sex toys ey introduced the sex toys 14 with Nada and as Epstein would watch on and 15 masturbate¶

16 A n oint he grabbed and placed her 17 18 i ed his penis in her vagina. head onto e head — on the massage table and¶

19 20 rchased sex toys. Who purchased sex toys? Okay. You said they introduced sex toys,¶

• 21 A. Nada.

22 Q. Was with her when they were purchased?¶

23 A. It is — yes.¶

24 Q. Okay.¶

25 A. It was for Epstein’s¶

1 Q. So and Nada went to purchase the sex 2 toys?¶

3 A. For Epstein’s birthday. Correct.¶

4 Q. Okay. And during the time that he 5 penetrated her vagina she was either 17 or 18, 6 you’re not clear — clear which?¶

7 A. Right.¶

AC;Ar 8 Q. Okay.¶

9 A. It was — this was towar end.¶

10 Because after that she stopper g to his res 11 his house.¶

12 Q. How many hundred times, did she 13 indicate how much she made during this 14 2-year period t t e was going to see him?¶

15 A. Well s received between 200 and a 16 thousand dol¶

17 Q. Eac time?¶

18 A. Each time that she went.¶

19 The day that he forcibly entered himself 20 Onto her, he paid her a thousand dollars.¶

21 Also, she had received a rental car from 22 Dollar Rental Car, a blue Dodge Neon, that the 23 previous houseman had rented for her.¶

24 Q. Did she ever make a report of sexual 25 battery after what she told you about him¶

1 inserting his penis inside her?¶

2 A. What do you mean, sexual battery?¶

3 Q. Did she — at that time that he forced his 4 penis inside her, you said?¶

5 A. II, at that —¶

6 Q. Did she make —¶

7 A. the day that that occurred?¶

8 No.¶

9 Q. — did she make — did s (::) and say¶

10 A. No, the day it occurr she did not.¶

11 Q. That day she took o.sand dollars.¶

12 Let’s say it’s 200 for a hundred 13 times; she’s — we lking a lot of money she 14 got, at a mini us a car?¶

AgdioӦ

15 Is t yes?¶

16 A. YES.¶

17 Q. Okay. Did you ask her what she did with 18 a th t money?¶

19 . I did ask her. And she didn’t want to tell 224De.¶

21 Q. What’d she say?¶

22 A. She said that that was too personal.¶

23 Q. After you — she’s just described all these 24 sex acts to you.¶

25 Okay. Did you interview somebody named¶

1¶

2 A. Yes, I did.¶

3 0. Who is¶

4 A. Um —¶

5 Q. Page 51.¶

6 A. Thank you.¶

7 Okay, November 4th. She provide!! sworn¶

8 taped statement that she had been¶

9 Epstein’s house by the — a fri m¶

10 School,¶

11 Q. This same¶

12 A. Correct.¶

13 Q. Okay.¶

14 A. She was s well that she would have to¶

15 provide the ge and would be paid 300 for the¶

16 massage.¶

17 Q. How old was she at the time?¶

18 A. 17, I believe.¶

19 ?St . e Okay. What did she describe happening when¶

0 20 e went there the first time?¶

• 21 A. She was taken to the house and introduced

22 to Epstein’s assistant. Pretty much —¶

23 Q. Which one, Nada —¶

24 A. — consistent¶

25 Q. — or Sarah?¶

1 A. Sarah¶

2 Q. Okay.¶

3 A. It was pretty much consistent with all the 4 girls. They would be introduced to the assistant, 5 who would then lead her upstairs and prepare the 6 room for the massage in the bathro m area. 7 She would lay — put a blanket over th sage 8 tables and provide the ointments t(!) Epstein 9 would like to have used.¶

10 She rubbed his calves 11 was paid $300 for her se s back area and¶

12 Q. Was that a one eyEhing with 13 or did ack?¶

14 A. She sta had gone back four or five 15 times. A ky,¶

16 Q. S’milc acts each time she went back?¶

17 A. Correct.¶

18 Q. Similar amounts of money each time?¶

19 20 21 y happen. It was the same monies though provided. It — it started to escalate. I mean, each (::,ime that she went, further things started to¶

22 Q. Okay. So the sex acts became more 23 involved?¶

24 A. Correct.¶

25 Q. Okay. She was what, you said 17?¶

1 A. Correct.¶

2 Q. Did she tell Jeff Epstein that she was 17?¶

3 A. May have, I believe so.¶

4 Q. Take a minute and look at your report and 5 see if you can find that there.¶

6 A. Okay. She was 16 when she first w nt to 7 the house.¶

8 Q. Okay. She was 16. But doe ever tell 9 him she’s 16 or 17?¶

( s)¶

10 A. No.¶

11 Q. Did any of the gi 12 they were under 18? r tell him that¶

13 A. Well, he k t they went to 14 Scho¶

15 Q. That ot my question to you.¶

16 A. O¶

17 18 Q97 14ci of ever tell Jeff Epstein ?S tt e ey any were the girls under 18?¶

19 . Not to my knowledge.¶

• 20 Q. And some of them affirmatively lied and 21 said they were 18 when they were not, didn’t they?

22 A. Correct.¶

23 Q. But he was aware that they were going to 24 high school?¶

25 A. Correct.¶

1 Q. Okay. How much money did make?¶

2 A. $300 for each massage.¶

3 Q. Was she ever given anything other than cash 4 money?¶

5 A. She was also given a Western Union wire 6 from New York, for a Christmas bonus.¶

7 Q. How much was the Christmas bonne .¶

8 A. $200.¶

9 Q. All right. At some poin poke with 10 someone named Alfredo Rodriquez¶

11 A. Correct.¶

12 Q. Who is he?¶

13 A. He’s a for seman of Jeffrey Epstein.¶

14 Q. What di a scribe his duties when he was 15 at — emploo~e Mr. Epstein?¶

16 A. H wa asically everything. He was the 17 butl the driver, in charge of his security. He 18 w ba ically the — everything for the house.¶

19 . Okay. Do it all. He did anything, 20 indiscernible) wanted to?¶

21 A. Right.¶

22 Q. Okay. Did he — did Alfredo Rodriguez give 23 you any information regarding your investigation?¶

24 A. He explained that he knew something was 25 amiss during his employ with Mr. Epstein.¶

He would see girls as young as his daughter come in and say that they’re his masseuses.¶

And when asked, how young?¶

He said, very young. Too young to be {sup}a masseuse.¶

Q. Did he give you any other informa ion?¶

A. He also stated that he had kep a lder for his protection. Some notes t e made during his employ with Mr. Eps¶

Q. What — so he kept 1 ajournal?¶

A. Basically, yes. folder with different sheets of inside.¶

Q. And he wou Ste notes himself or he would put note in hat journal?¶

A. He w,tua {sup}tnotes inside.¶

Q. O¶

A. Notes stiOcary. that were given to him on Epstein’s¶

. Was there any note that he provided to you n that folder that indicated something any type of relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and any of the girls we’ve discussed?¶

A. Yes. He provided two sheets. One was to extend the rental car for , as the contract was up the 2nd of February.¶

1 Q. The 2nd of February what year?¶

2 A. I was unable to determine that.¶

3 I researched the information through Dollar¶

4 Rent A Car and they were unable to locate the car 5 that he rented.¶

6 7 Q. Okay. But did gotten a car? confirm that she had¶

8 A. Yes.¶

9 Q. Okay.¶

10 11 12 A. She even explained O ‘S — de (Libed cr the car as gic) a blue Dodge Neon, four does. She explained the whole car to me.¶

13 Additionally .:414:a another notation r¶

14 of — to take a of roses at 9 p.m. to¶

15 16 17 18 flowers she was that t after her for . And give the performance, as and had a¶

19 Okay. And do you know when that was?¶

20 It was while was still in¶

22 prior to Janusz. It was during his employ,¶

23 24 Q. Do you know if that was when was 16 or when she was 17 or when she was 18?¶

25 A. When she was 17. A¶

1 Q. Okay. Did you — any of these girls we’ve 2 talked about, any of them a licensed massage 3 therapist?¶

4 A. No. No formal training in any massages.¶

5 Q. Did you ever speak to licensed massage 6 therapists that provided services to Jeffrey 7 Epstein. Afilmc¶

8 A. Through the trash pulls we d ocate two 9 10 girls that were licensed masseu(:: interviewed. ) t I¶

11 Q. Who were they?¶

12 A. One was 13 was and the other one¶

14 Q. Okay. ou talk to¶

15 A. Yes,¶

16 Q. she tell you?¶

17 A Sh ad been going to Epstein’s house for 18 e time. However, she was not a masseuse 19 that time when she first started going to his 20 use. He also provided her a vehicle to get to 21 his house, because her scooter had broken down. 22 She was —¶

23 24 capacity as these other girls? Q• She started going to his house in a similar¶

25 A. That is correct.¶

1 Q. Okay. But she later became a massage 2 therapist?¶

4 Q. What kind of relationship did 5 and Jeffrey Epstein have?¶

6 7 A. She stated that it was a consensual sexual encounters that they’ve had.¶

8 Q. How old was she at the time? AC;Ar¶

9 A. Over 18 at that time. I she was 18.¶

10 11 Q. Was she — did she descr being paid money for — 0;)¶

12 A. Paid money.¶

13 Q. the she provided?¶

14 A. And addit 1 y, I believe he paid her 15 tuition at¶

16 Q. I th where she got her massage therapy 17 training?¶

18 A. No. She got into the 19¶

Okay. All right. What — you mentioned a 21 She’s a licensed massage 22 therapist?¶

23 A. That is correct.¶

24 Q. Did she provide massage services to Jeff 25 Epstein?¶

1 A. Yes.¶

2 Q. What kind of services did she provide?¶

3 A. She does a Swedish deep tissue massage.¶

4 Q. Did the massages by go 5 beyond a normal massage to the other acts we’ve 6 heard about today?¶

7 8 9 dollars and she left. A A. No. No, her job was strictly tome in, provide the massage. She got paid( ::) ndred¶

10 11 12 Q. Okay. So the licensed -ge therapist gets a hundred dollars, t er girls get much more? Act)¶

13 A. Right.¶

14 Q. Okay. Wh were — you’ve met most of 15 these girls s there anything different about 16 17 stan apar from the other girls that were going? that you noticed that made her¶

18 A. was not the petite little girl. 19 he as a bigger girl, with plenty of tattoos on 20 r forearms, very visible on her neck. Very 21 visible tattoos.¶

22 Q. If you were to say Mr. Epstein had a type, 23 she would not fit that type?¶

24 A. II, absolutely.¶

25 Q. Were you ever able to find any intelligence¶

1 from the Palm Beach County Police Department that 2 confirmed any of these girls being in his house, 3 other than girls saying so?¶

4 A. Through physical surveillance.¶

5 I had researched all the intelligence that 6 the police have gathered during the past ouple 7 years. And in 2004 Mr. Rodriguez, the er 8 houseman, had called the police be he had 9 seen a suspicious vehicle that not 10 recognize in the driveway of r. house.¶

11 Mr. Rodriguez was g in from Publix 12 and didn’t recognize v isle, so he left and 13 drove straight to lice department and 14 notified ‘em t e s a strange vehicle in the 15 driveway.¶

16 W at vehicle was approached by the 17 poli officers they found sitting in 18 t ‘s - the car with her friend.¶

19 . Does it identify who the friend is?¶

20 A. Uh —¶

21 + Q. And when you look at that report, what is 22 the date that was there in 2004?¶

23 A. November 28, 2004.¶

24 And at which point her cell phone rang. 25 And the officer felt that it must have been her¶

1 mother because she says, I can’t talk, I’m in 2 school.¶

3 Q. Okay. Did the officer note why 4 was there?¶

5 A. She stated that she was there to pick up 6 monies that were owed to her. That she i a 7 massage therapist for Mr. Epstein.¶

8 Q. Okay. The girls you talked ow did 9 they all typically tend to know e ther, of 10 those that do? Were they a in chool together?¶

11 A. They were all — I knew each other 12 from chool.¶

13 All except¶

14 Q. Because e — knew from outside 15 of school?¶

16 A. C rre She knew because she was 17 dati cousin.¶

18 Q. Okay. At some point did you obtain a 19 ea ch warrant for Jeffrey Epstein’s home?¶

0 A. Correct. I did.¶

21 y Q. When was that?¶

22 A. That was in October.¶

23 Q. Page 42.¶

24 A. October 12, 2005 — oops, I’m sorry. That 25 was the — nope, that was in another interview.¶

1 Q. October 20th?¶

2 A. October 20th.¶

3 Q. You got the warrant on October 18th and 4 executed it on October 20th?¶

5 A. Correct.¶

6 Q. Okay. Who was present with you wh n you 7 executed that warrant?¶

8 A. Various members of the poli artment. 9 Detective Crowell, Sergeant Fri ective Dix, 10 Detective Dawson, Detective n n, myself, crime 11 Scene Manager Greg Par4ki¶

12 Q. Okay.¶

13 A. There was Agi;of people in the — from 14 the police dep¶

4 15 Q. All jtght, And Greg Parkinson is outside?¶

16 A.¶

17 Q. Okay. 18 t re as an 19 wi torpedo? During the execution of that warrant item found that’s identified as a¶

20 …) 14 A. Yes. TeL¶

21 Q. What is that item?¶

22 A. That is a — it is known as a dildo.¶

23 Q. Okay. A sexual toy that you buy¶

24 A. A sexual toy.¶

25 Q. Okay. Where was that found?¶

1 A. That was found in the bedroom of — I want 2 to say Nada’s bedroom.¶

3 Q. Okay. Is that the bedroom that the girls 4 were taken to when they performed the messages, as 5 described by — to you?¶

6 A. The main the main massages occu red in 7 Epstein’s bedroom/bathroom area.¶

9 A. No.¶

8 Q. Not Nada’s — 5:¶

10 Q. — bedroom/bathroomaroma?f¶

11 A. No.¶

12 Q. Okay. 13 place? So that und in a different¶

14 A. Correct¶

( S SC¶

15 Q. Was J e there sexual devices, dildos, 16 vibrator( fo d, anything, that matched the 17 descriptions 18 19 as given by the girls? Either a p ple vibrator or a Sr, (pa vibrator with a large¶

20 A. No.¶

21 y MS. BELOHLAVEK: At this point, 22 Detective Recarey, I’m going to see if the 23 grand jurors have any questions for you.¶

24 THE WITNESS: Okay.¶

25 A JUROR: I’d like to ask you a¶

1 2 question first. What constitutes a sexual act under the law?¶

3 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Sexual activity 4 means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 medical purposes. or union with the sexual organ of another; anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; or the handli the fondling of the sexual orga another for the purpose of masturbat 0 • owever, the term does not include ct or bona fide¶

12 You’ll a copy of this.¶

13 Yes,¶

14 15 A R • Do you know the location of Jeff at present?¶

16 17 ou say that he hasn’t been back since October.¶

18 19 20 Mexico. He has a private island right 21 outside St. Has a home in Paris 22 THE WITNESS: He has various homes. One in New York. He has a ranch in New and one in England.¶

23 A JUROR: So can you get in touch 24 with him? You would have a way to do that?¶

25 THE WITNESS: He has various counsels¶

AQIII:’¶

1 representing him.¶

2¶

3 A JUROR: Was the only one of 4 these girls that he actually had 5 intercourse with?¶

6 THE WITNESS: No.¶

7 A JUROR: Okay. AGAr¶

8 ARdo” THE WITNESS: There w total of 9 five victims altogether.¶

10 But as far as ijte urse you mean?¶

12 13 THE WITN s far as penile intercourse.¶

14 Right.¶

15 ITNESS: I believe it was two.¶

16 JUROR: Okay.¶

(s) 17 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Yes, sir.¶

18 A JUROR: As far as , it does 19 ( like was the center focal point who ^, ’ y not appear from what I’m hearing, it’s not 23÷’ ,-) 21 coordinated all this for Epstein.¶

22 It seemed like Epstein had multiple 23 sources to have access to some of these 24 young girls. Is that correct?¶

25 THE WITNESS: All these girls were in¶

1 a tight clique together. being the 2 first one from that clique to go to the 3 house.¶

4 A JUROR: Okay.¶

5 THE WITNESS: Basically was the — 6 she brought brought 7 brought¶

8 A JUROR: Right.¶

9 THE WITNESS: So i ike a 10 trickling effect.¶

11 A JUROR: So this — I mean, 12 it just kind o like this little 13 micro-econ spawned here.¶

14 A i oes not — I mean, do any of 15 thes s provide those types of services 16 f r mo ey for anyone else? Do they do 17 this —¶

18 THE WITNESS: No.¶

19 A JUROR: — on a common basis or —¶

220. THE WITNESS: No.

21 A JUROR: — does it just so happen 22 that Epstein is the source by which they’re 23 attracted to here?¶

24 THE WITNESS: Epstein was the source.¶

25 A JUROR: Okay.¶

1 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Do you know present occupation, Detective?¶

THE WITNESS: She is a — an exotic dancer.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: A stripper? 6 THE WITNESS: A stripper.¶

7 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Okay. 8 A JUROR: Who is that¶

THE WITNESS: MS. BELOHLAVEK:_

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11 Yes, sir?¶

12 A JUROR: Jeffrey entered 13 did she ask_1ji o stop at all?¶

14 TH SS: She screamed no. 15 idn’t — she —¶

18 He apologized. Offered her a 19 (…44Se t:ousand dollars. Subsequently then¶

21 THE WITNESS: After that, yes. 22 A JUROR: Okay.¶

23 And the second question. You had 24 made comment that Dollar Rental Car wasn’t 25 able to find the —¶

(s)¶

JUROR: And he continued? THE WITNESS: — said no.¶

A JUROR: So he stopped.¶

J. THE WITNESS: The Dollar —¶

2 A JUROR: — car rental.¶

3 4 Have you been able to confirm the actual —¶

5 6 THE WITNESS: Subpoenas have been issued to Dollar Rent A Car.¶

7 I have their techs resear g it. 8 They were acquired by anoth pany, so 9 some of the business rec 10 par. So they’re 11 keep re not up to hopefully reminding th -¶

12 13 then A JUROR: itel that s more than one car¶

14 THE -.(StSS: That’s correct.¶

15 16 which — I believe 17 she s still driving it. still rent — they rented the¶

18 A JUROR: Okay.¶

19¶

20 1 21 y relationships with him over a year while 22 they were still in high school? A JUROR: How many of the girls had¶

23 THE WITNESS: I’m sorry?¶

24 A JUROR: How many of the girls 25 had — were seeing him for more than a year¶

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1 2 while — and he knew they were still in high school?¶

3 4 THE WITNESS: I know that all of them were in high school when they first started 5 seeing him. being 16.¶

6 7 8 The age of graduation is 18. I would say they all, because they all him through Rpool.¶

9 10 11 MS. BELOHLAVEK: T tion is the length period. This — it’s one time.¶

12 13 hundreds o Like wi it was numerous - for 2 years.¶

14 STN SS: Over 2 years.¶

15 e) 16 m ELOHLAVEK: , 15 or¶

17 THE WITNESS: Right.¶

18 MS. BELOHLAVEK: So this is 19 longstanding with —¶

20 THE WITNESS: Right.¶

21 22 girls? MS. BELOHLAVEK: — many of these¶

23 THE WITNESS: Yes.¶

24 A JUROR: Can you name the two girls 25 that the vaginal penetration took place¶

1 with?¶

2 THE WITNESS: It would be¶

3 and¶

4 5 6 7 8 A JUROR: And how many then would, in your opinion, defined by the sexual act - how many other girls would fall un er that category? Can you give me some e of AQQ,:r count?¶

9 10 was the that age — THE WITNESS: Unde 11, there — Cr)¶

11 MS. BELOHLAV here’s the 12 masturbation i of how many girls?¶

13 THE W There was — 14 all of —¶

d/ 15 ELOHLAVEK: Most —¶

16 ~E 77 WITNESS: — them.¶

(AL) 17 MS. BELOHLAVEK: — of the girls.¶

18 17 lair THE WITNESS: I would say all of 19 them.¶

20 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Okay.¶

21 THE WITNESS: Except for maybe the 22 legitimate masseuse,¶

23 MS. BELOHLAVEK: But the only one 24 that was under 16 at the time was¶

25 THE WITNESS: Right. She was 14.¶

1 Correct.¶

2 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Okay.¶

3 4 A JUROR: Other than stepmother coming to the police, she 5 obviously found out from the Principal. 6 But the other girls, none of their, parents 7 knew about it or intervened in way?¶

8 THE WITNESS: It wasn’ 9 10 parents discovered what was at that time that doing. It d stopped.¶

11 And to this e still gets phone 12 calls. She ha ange her cell phone 13 number, th changed the — changed 14 the hou from and 15 EpstAto¶

16 JUROR: 17 bringing home this money, they’re obviously 18 shopping, bringing home items; and none of 19 Cause here these girls are the parents got involved in any way?¶

23÷0 THE WITNESS: A lot of these parents, 21 they had no idea what was going on.¶

22 A JUROR: I can’t believe that. I 23 mean —¶

24 MS. BELOHLAVEK: You have to ask 25 questions. Not comments.¶

1 Yes, Do you have your hand 2 up?¶

3 A JUROR: Let’s see, you mentioned 4 was from¶

5 THE WITNESS: , yes.¶

6 A JUROR: was from 7¶

8 9 10 THE WITNESS: No. Ac gqk these - all the girls lived in t area, area ) (::)¶

11 12 13 14 A JUROR: there perhaps from other he would kay ny suspicion that her groups of girls chools or other areas that into that — his home?¶

15 ITNESS: Not that I’m aware of. 16 T e c on link here was 17 School.¶

18 And there was actually comments made 19 (… in School that does e from people that says that there’s nobody 294F ht., 21 not know about Jeffrey Epstein.¶

22 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Yes, sir?¶

23 A JUROR: The girl that brought these 24 girls got $200, was that¶

25 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Yes. She was one of¶

1 the girls.¶

2 A JUROR: Then —¶

3 MS. BELOHLAVEK: There was another 4 girl that brought them.¶

5 A JUROR: Okay. Then after he got 6 some of their cell phone numbers, id he 7 make his own appointments, did h till pay 8¶

9 THE WITNESS: Thaterect.¶

10 A JUROR: Okay.¶

11 THE WITNESS: eventually they did 12 cut out ld contact these girls 13 directly.¶

14 that’s — okay.¶

15 16 m ke e appointments or was it done 17 through ? ELOHLAVEK: Did Jeffrey Epstein¶

18 THE WITNESS: Through 19 his — his assistant.¶

20 21 y of the girls actually making an appointment 22 with Jeffrey Epstein himself? MS. BELOHLAVEK: So we don’t have any¶

23 THE WITNESS: Correct.¶

24 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Were you able to 25 talk with¶

1 2 THE WITNESS: No. The Defense did not allow.¶

3 A JUROR: So claimed to make it 4 clear to Epstein that for the 2 years she 5 6 was going she was in high school. She he knew that?¶

7 8 9 THE WITNESS: He knew tha Viricsed on the sending the flowers to h chool for her high school play thaYiAs as in.¶

10 MS. BELOHLAVEK: else? A¶

11 12 13 A JUROR: received the f what year, when she what class was she in? Was it nior? A Junior?¶

14 15 1 but 6 t(5: 1 THE’ N SS: I want to say Senior, a hundred percent positive on¶

17 A JUROR: Why I ask that is that, you 18 know, usually a Senior can be 18 years old, 19 whereas a Junior is, you know, that was —¶

2,,0÷O THE WITNESS: Right.¶

21 A JUROR: That would give him some 22 knowledge of knowing how old she was.¶

23¶

24 A JUROR: The two girls that received 25 rental cars, their parents never asked them¶

1           where they got these cars that they were 2           driving?¶

3                     THE WITNESS: The one girl, [REDACTED] 4                     [REDACTED], who’s still driving the car; she’s 5                     attending college at [REDACTED] 6                     [REDACTED]. Her parents live up here in — in 7                     [REDACTED] area.¶

8                     When she does frequent her parents, 9                     the car is a friend’s car or is borrowed.¶

10                     MS. BELOHLAVEK: Yes, sir?¶

11                     A JUROR: (Indiscernible) confirm, I 12                     believe it was [REDACTED] had indicated that the 13                     conversation with Jeffrey Epstein was 14                     that — to make sure that the girls were 15                     young.¶

16                     THE WITNESS: The younger the better.¶

17                     A JUROR: And the younger the better, 18                     right? That was a —¶

19                     THE WITNESS: Younger the better was 20                     the quote.¶

21                     A JUROR: And in that conversation, 22                     was that in reference to specifically your 23                     friends from your school or —¶

24                     THE WITNESS: That came later. 25                     Because she brought a 23-year old to¶

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1 2 provide a massage, and he told her she was too old.¶

3 A JUROR: Right. Okay.¶

4 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Okay.¶

5 6 A JUROR: Can I ask you a legal question?¶

7 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Mm-hmm.¶

8 A JUROR: Is there (i 14411).¶

9 10 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Yet. t we can discuss that when the e ive’s not here.¶

11 Yes, sir?¶

12 A JUROR: 11 these girls 13 available t alled if the case went to 14 court?¶

15 ACS o WITNESS: If we went to trial?¶

16¶

17 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Any other questions?¶

18 Yes, sir.¶

19 A JUROR: Have you been able to 220 verify Mr. Epstein’s age?¶

THE WITNESS: Mr. Epstein was born in 22 1951, I believe. 51 or 53. January of 23 1953. January 20, 1953. Which would have 24 made him 52, 53 years of age.¶

25 MS. BELOHLAVEK: And 51 — 50, 51¶

1 during the times of these events?¶

2 THE WITNESS: Correct.¶

3 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Okay. All right.¶

4 Thank you very much.¶

5 A JUROR: One more.¶

6 7 THE WITNESS: I think there’s another question. AhAr¶

8 g glo, MS. BELOHLAVEK: Oops. rry.¶

9 10 11 A JUROR: Is there her evidence that the girls were i. hi ouse besides the one tape, bes’ at they’re saying?¶

12 13 14 15 THE WITN e did have two cameras, rt hidden cameras inside his house security purposes. We did loca computer.¶

16 17 18 19 20 reviewed the images in the com;; uter, and within that computer there are photographs of girls that I had previous interviewed that appears to be them.¶

21 22 23 24 25 However, because it’s so grainy, so snowy, a positive rec — a positive identification is — you know, it’s hard to — unless you show it to the girl, is this you?¶

1 Which I haven’t done, because I — 2 too much information was being leaked back 3 to him. So that’s why I pretty much 4 stopped giving them information as far as 5 this investigation.¶

6 7 8 MS. BELOHLAVEK: So you can’t say specifically then the pictures a of the girls involved?¶

9 THE WITNESS: I ca Y 10 positively. I can sa t this girl 11 appeared to be li 12 Same hairstyle ust like mannerisms of walking, 13 same clothe t — typical that I’ve seen 14 her wear b can’t say for a hundred 15 perc A t this is her.¶

16 ’)(his appears to be her. The same 17 bo y style, face, that type of¶

18 MS. BELOHLAVEK: And the girls are 19 (4S still in touch with him, telling him about 22÷’..) your investigation.¶

21 THE WITNESS: I know for a fact that 22¶

23 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Or telling Sarah or 24 Nada.¶

25 THE WITNESS: Right. I know that¶

1 has called. And other girls that 2 I’ve interviewed or approached to be 3 interviewed have called him. And¶

4 5 MS. BELOHLAVEK: And there are other girls that refuse to talk to you?¶

6 THE WITNESS: Right.¶

7 MS. BELOHLAVEK: I love J 8 not testifying against him. I’m¶

9 THE WITNESS: Righ¶

10 11 12 A JUROR: One Didn’t you say that the plac lm Beach has the residence unde i Ilance?¶

13 14 15 THE When the — when I took over th n tigation I had our TAC team cond ysical surveillance. And they 16 o d these girls coming to the 17 residence in in their dad’s 18 car, in 19 their their mom’s vehicles, cars, coming house seeing Epstein. The - to the¶

22÷0 A JUROR: So you do have witnesses 21 that can put these girls in¶

22 THE WITNESS: Absolutely¶

23 A JUROR: that particular¶

24 THE WITNESS: Absolutely.¶

25 A JUROR: There’s one other thing. I¶

1 forgot.¶

2 MS. BELOHLAVEK: In or at his home.¶

3 Not in sex acts though.¶

4 THE WITNESS: No, not in sex acts.¶

5 6 They were conducting surveillance from the outside.¶

7 8 9 A JUROR: I know. Did you d ivekany telephone research or was ev 1)111 done over cell phones?¶

10 11 THE WITNESS: Ever ng was done over cell phones.¶

12 MS. BELO All right.¶

13 Than very much Detective 14 Recarey.¶

15 Gass excused.)¶

16 ITNESS GREGORY PARKINSON)¶

17 MS. DUGGAN: Okay. Would you raise 18 IC IIhyour right hand?¶

19 O THE WITNESS: Yes.¶

20 MS. DUGGAN: Do you swear or affirm 21 the testimony you’re about to give today 22 will be the truth, the whole truth, and 23 nothing but the truth, so help you got?¶

24 THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.¶

25 EXAMINATION¶

1 BY MS. BELOHLAVEK:¶

2 3 grand jurors, please? Q. Okay. Would you introduce yourself to the¶

4 A. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.¶

5 My name is Gregory Parkinson.¶

6 Q. 7 law enforcement officer? How — how long have you been employed as a¶

8 A. 9 started on October 25th of 1966 {sup}A Agl?or I have been in business 40 yga now. I¶

10 Q. And where were you worki hen?¶

11 A. I worked for the W 12 13 Department, where I retired on July 3rd’ the lm Beach Police or 34 years, until I year 2000.¶

14 15 16 I had the the next da Attorney ce where I worked for 3 years. f July off and went to work investigator for the State¶

17 18 w keti ‘off, and then took over a management 19 ion with the Town of Palm Beach Police 20 partment, where I am still currently employed. t on February 14th of 2003, had the¶

21 Q. What is your position with Palm Beach 22 Police Department?¶

23 24 also hold the title of civilian where I am in 25 charge of the crime scene investigation unit, the A. I hold the rank of police officer, but I¶

1 photography unit, the evidence holding unit, and 2 the fingerprint unit.¶

3 Q. In your capacity as the crime scene head 4 did you take part in the search warrant executed 5 on Jeffrey Epstein’s house on August — 6 October 20, 2005?¶

7 A. Yes, I did. Ahmk ,¶

8 Q. Tell us how you go about exe Ong a search 9 warrant in general.¶

10 A. Once the warrant is si•n nd brought back 11 to headquarters, I am not ¶ of this at that 12 time.¶

13 On this morn<) which was a Thursday 14 morning, when I o the morning briefing, at 15 that time I formed that a search warrant 16 would be exe ed and that it would be at a 17 resi ence.¶

18 My responsibility is to then assemble a 19 a of evidence specialists and crime scene 20 ocessors that will respond to this unannounced 21 scene. We don’t even know where we’re going until 22 we are in a — what looks like a funeral 23 procession or a parade; all the cars are ready to 24 go. We follow the lead car. And only then, when 25 we arrive, do we know the location.¶

1 Q. Why is that done?¶

2 A. It’s — it’s an issue of security, it’s an 3 issue of privacy, and it’s an issue of officer 4 safety, so that there is a guarantee that there 5 can be no leak of any information, even as simple 6 as an address, from my office.¶

7 And we prefer to operate in that4nner. 8 So we don’t know until we get there¶

9 All we really need to kn hat are we 10 going to be going into, so that know the volume 11 of bags, the volume of bo the volume of gloves 12 or masks or processin or lab coats; whether 13 we would need head o r to protect — or to 14 prevent contamin on of a scene or shoe covers, 15 which will s event contamination of the 16 scene.¶

17 We n’t need to know a lot about the 18 s ne, we only need to know what type of evidence 19 going to be looking for, and the potential 20 lume or size of the area.¶

21 Knowing this, we are then prepared to go to 22 the scene and do whatever’s necessary to fulfill 23 the requirements of the search warrant, and that 24 is searching for specific items.¶

25 Q. Mr. Parkinson, so that would — in addition¶

1 to officer safety; so that someone’s not waiting 2 there to ambush you; also, nobody at the place to 3 be searched knows you’re coming so they can just 4 dispose of things?¶

5 A. That is correct.¶

6 Q. Okay. On this date, October 20th, where 7 did you go? AhAr¶

8 A. I went to a residence located the island 9 of Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, ida. With 10 an address of 358 El Brillo.¶

11 The 300 block is t e ck just immediately 12 west of the Intracoast erway.¶

13 Q. East of the n acoastal Waterway?¶

14 A. It is on east side of the Intracoastal 15 Waterway. this particular residence is 16 on the I stal Waterway.¶

17 Q. Oki. Describe to us how the house is 18¶

19 The residence had staff or personnel 20 esent at the time of our arrival. Detective 21 Recarey went in ahead of me.¶

22 And understanding that once you enter the 23 property there is a heightened danger factor with 24 persons or personnel on the scene. And the first 25 thing that must be done, for everyone’s safety, is¶

1 to go in and not search for items, but clear the 2 residence of living human beings, so that there 3 can be no access to weapons or any endangerment to 4 them. This was done. And I took part in the 5 search of the second floor on the west end of the 6 residence.¶

7 All the living persons and th4were no 8 dead persons there — so all of the • sons, 9 non-police persons, were escort to the south 10 side of the residence into a •atop/area.¶

11 0. Were they allowed 12 the home with them? e any items out of¶

13 A. No. Nor did t1 police look, touch, or 14 move anything; o han opening doors, closets, 15 to make sur were no other persons inside.¶

17 18 16 I wa ot a search in the sense of the search wa nt at this time. It was a search of idence to clear it and neutralize any¶

19 1 nt of danger. (:5 4 20., ,e. This was done. This was accomplished.¶

21 At this time officer — Detective Recarey 22 would read out loud, word for word, the search 23 warrant to those persons that were removed from 24 the house.¶

25 My responsibility at this time was to video¶

1 2 3 4 and audio record the reading of that search warrant to these persons. That I did. And recorded it until the conclusion of the reading of the search warrant.¶

5 6 7 searched? Q. Okay. Were you requested by myself to prepare a diagram of the upper floor of the home¶

8 A. Yes, I was.¶

9 Q. What rooms are on that u oor?¶

10 11 12 13 14 15 A. There are several rooms are located on the second floor. It is pa lly an L-shaped appearance where theC es dy of the house is aligned east and w tx here is an L-shaped short leg which protru tb the north. That actually sits — tha sits over a three car garage.¶

16 17 18 19 20 21 nd floor contains a — on the west end, a la bedroom, which is aligned th ;nd south. And then off of the south side is a large bedroom and large closet. ming back through the bedroom to the north side there is another bathroom.¶

22 23 They’re not like our And these are quite large bathrooms.¶

24 Q. Okay.¶

25 A. — you know, not like my house.¶

AC;Ar¶

1 Q. Is this the diagram you prepared?¶

2 A. Yes, it is.¶

3 Q. Okay. Can I ask you to step down and —¶

4 A. Yes.¶

5 6 Q. — indicate to the grand jurors what the upstairs looks like, what rooms we’re seeing here.¶

7 8 9 10 down to the first floor. A. To orient you — bear in mind y ( looking at the second floor here, a Ai ris is a spiral staircase which goes fro :!) econd floor (I)¶

11 And this, coincide is a double door 12 main entrance to the f the house. And once 13 inside — oops. : Broke Broke the stairway.¶

14¶

15 A. I d oke the stairway.¶

16 O ce ering the front door and coming up 17 the stair you entered a landing. Once inside 18 t la ding, it is basically a very long hallway. 19 hi hallway double door set here and a 20 uble door set here. They open inward on the 21 east side; they open inward on the west side. has a¶

22 Once coming through this hallway you then 23 reach a normal size door which gives you access to 24 the bedroom. Which, this is the 25 bedroom. This is the large bathroom on the south¶

1 side. And this is the large walk-in closet of 2 which there are two doors that you can enter and 3 walk in all the way through and back out to the 4 other.¶

5 And, again, moving back through the 6 bedroom, past the hallway you then enter another 7 large bathroom which has a sink, close and a 8 large bathtub. Ac;/or¶

9 And it was right in here,fw looked very 10 similar to a dentist’s chair, 11 light. It has all kinds 12 it. I don’t know W1 ut the big es and things on t that thing would do.¶

13 Q. And that wa related to the 14 investigation?¶

15 A. No. just part of the furniture 16 there, l’Zt- similar to, a bed was here and a 17 credenza o0er here.¶

18 Q Are there toilet facilities here or is it u sinks in these bathrooms?¶

{sup}19( {sup}204.5 A. I believe that there were toilets also 21A ÷ there in the¶

22 Q. All right. Did you find a massage table?¶

23 A. Yes. There was massage table in this 24 clos — bathroom.¶

25 Q. Okay. How about massage oils? Were there¶

massage oils up in that bathroom?¶

A. I believe there were. I know that we got some kind of a jar of material out of this IM= bedroom, one of — out of the dresser.¶

Q. What about out of the actual room where the massage table was?¶

A. That, I’m not sure.¶

fr¶

I was involved in the actua rch and photography of that. Other inv ors would have to comment on it.¶

Q. Okay. Do you have reports¶

A. Yes, I do.¶

Q. — from thos.estigators?¶

A. I — well ve the evidence sheets¶

Q. Okay A¶

A. - of ere things were found.¶

Q. Oka . Could you see if there were any msac oils found within the same room where the ge table was.¶

A. I don’t have a listing of that in the packet that I have here.¶

Q. Okay. And items that would be taken into custody by the police department would be itemized on the property receipt like that?¶

A. That’s true.¶

1 Q. Okay. But — and so there was a massage 2 oil found by the bedroom, this room?¶

3 A. Yes. And I actually had that pointed out 4 to me by Detective Recarey. And it was called a 5 bottle — or a Joy Jelly. And it was from the 6 bedroom on the — in the credenza which was 7 right here.¶

PAA 8 Q. Okay. You can have a seat¶

9 A. Thank you. S¶

10 Q. Thank you. C¶

11 You’ve had a chap jgo over those 12 receipts of all the p ~c7.y that was contained?¶

13 A. Yes.¶

14 Q. Did any officers find a purple 15 vibrator in me?¶

16 A. I aveyftem 24, which — which may be that. 17 I hav not actually seen it, but it’s called a 18 cl pedo.¶

19 ” . All right. The twin torpedo was not found 2,11:4i 1 the the other bedroom? bedroom though, wasn’t it found in 21¶

22 I think Detective Recarey testified it was 23 found in Ghislaine Max — or Nada’s bedroom?¶

24 A. I don’t know. I don’t have a listing right 25 here on this particular document as to where it¶

1 was found on the evidence sheet. That would be 2 covered in Detective Recarey’s report.¶

3 Q. Nothing listed as a purple vibrator though?¶

4 A. Not on the sheets that I have.¶

5 Q. What about a vibrator?¶

6 A. I don’t remember seeing a vibrator.¶

7 That may have been something that was vered by 8 them and photographed by CSI Pavlic¶

9 Q. But you have the propert pts in this 10 case, and it’s not listed?¶

11 A. I don’t see it lispe % re. No.¶

12 Q. Okay.¶

13 14 15 going to e itthe grand jurors have any IIt t AVEK: At this point I’m T furt r stions for you.¶

16 ( Alc ;4It E WITNESS: I’m at your service.¶

17 s) Yes, sir?¶

18 19 20 on your list of — I llialr A JUROR: Do you have any sexual toys, other than the double-headed torpedo¶

21 THE WITNESS: Not on the list that I 22 have here, sir.¶

23 A JUROR: That’s the only sexual toy 24 you have?¶

25 THE WITNESS: Pardon?¶

1 A JUROR: That’s the only sexual toy 2 you have that was confiscated in this — 3 search?¶

4 THE WITNESS: I believe, to my 5 knowledge, it is. I haven’t seen the 6 or purple, so I can’t —¶

7 A JUROR: Or any other ty f sexual S toy, period. Acd/or¶

9 THE WITNESS: Righ sonally I 10 have not seen those.¶

12 THE WITN but that is not 13 14 uncommon ei e because of the nature of this inve t ion.¶

15 16 17 active Recarey would be the one t L specific items. the knowledge on all those¶

18 19 20 to the search, recording the reading of the 21 search warrant. And then, folks, also 22 after the search I go through and re-video 23 to show that the police did not do any 24 25 locked and secured. Other than filming the room itself - or I’m sorry — the residence itself prior damage. And then the door is finally¶

1 So there would be areas, while I was 2 in it I photographed it from a video 3 standpoint, I would not have direct knowledge of the — some of the items that were found, but Detective Recarey would.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: And you obtained 7 copies of all the evidence shee 8 evidence checked in; correc AR r¶

9 THE WITNESS: As - nk so. Yes.¶

10 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Ye¶

(s)¶

. BELOHLAVEK: Okay.¶

18 I lilliv THE WITNESS: Yes, sir?¶

19 A JUROR: Is that report just from 20 O the bedroom or from all the bedrooms 21 on the second floor?¶

22 THE WITNESS: Actually, it represents 23 the entire residence, plus the two — the 24 servants quarters, barracks; and on the 25 southwest corner, the fitness and exercise¶

THE WITNESS:¶

MS BELOH And only that twin torpedo is ly sexual item listed?¶

4 11 . SS: As best I can tell you. Corr¶

Yes, sir?¶

room. I believe this encompasses —¶

A JUROR: Can you —¶

THE WITNESS: — everything.¶

A JUROR: Can you point out on that what — the room was that this woman Nadia was in?¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: Are you E liar with which bedroom was Nadia’ .¶

THE WITNESS: I am¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: D tive Carey Recarey, we can —¶

THE WITN ight.¶

O AVEK: — bring him back to show that •k y.¶

TNESS: Right.¶

(AL) . BELOHLAVEK: Any other questions? Yes, sir. In the back.¶

L . ICZ II* {sup}AJUROR: Was the suspect at the warrant, sir? house at the time that you served the¶

THE WITNESS: No, sir. He was not.¶

A JUROR: Thank you.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: Yes, sir?¶

A JUROR: Do your warrant s have anything listed for like computer equipment 1 or things like that or is it —¶

2 THE WITNESS: It did.¶

3 A JUROR: It did?¶

4 THE WITNESS: Yes.¶

5 And we did take computer equipment.¶

6 A JUROR: And is — can you say¶

7 what’s on it or —¶

8 9 THE WITNESS: special investigations u That was idled ;i e by the C:!)¶

10 And while I saw - ually 11 physically saw the ters, and saw them 12 disconnected a ved, I never saw 13 anything th on those computers.¶

AiAr¶

14 A J R And did they confiscate 15 pass r r anything from anyone in the 16 h e —¶

17 THE WITNESS: No, sir. Not 18 ? s e IC I:I:ssports. 19¶

And there were weapons in the house, rifles —¶

A JUROR: And they left them.¶

22 THE WITNESS: — that — yes, sir.¶

23 They were left behind because that 24 was never part of what we were looking for, 25 so those were all left behind.¶

1 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Yes, sir?¶

2 THE WITNESS: Yes, sir?¶

3 4 5 A JUROR: Could you tell us, the people that that you found there, who they were?¶

6 7 THE WITNESS: Do I know who they were? AkAr¶

8 A JUROR: The people 9 they were. . Who¶

10 THE WITNESS: I n tand one was 11 the property mana 12 think he was e ermanic or possibly 13 Polish, he Eastern European accent. — manager. I¶

14 That was the only person?¶

15 ITNESS: No. There were, I 16 t ink ythree other people.¶

17 A JUROR: Who were they?¶

were, sir. 18 THE WITNESS: I don’t know who they 19 !¶

20 O MS. BELOHLAVEK: We can ask Detective 21 Recarey.¶

22 THE WITNESS: Right. Detective 23 Recarey would know who they were.¶

24 A JUROR: Do you know that the 25 gentlemen that owned the house was out 1 did they tell you he was out of town?¶

2 THE WITNESS: Yes. We knew he was¶

3 out of town. Yes.¶

4 MS. BELOHLAVEK: All right. Thank¶

5 you.¶

6 THE WITNESS: Thank you all very¶

7 much.¶

8 (Witness excused.) AC5Ar¶

9 (WITNESS JOE RECAR LLED)¶

10 CONTINUED EXAMI ON¶

11 BY MS. BELOHLAVEK:¶

12 Q. You’re still u th.¶

13 Who was in me when the search warrant 14 was executed?¶

15 A. Seve igners from New York City, and¶

16 Janusz B , his current houseman.¶

17 Q. Oka And where were those people located 18 i the ansion?¶

19 . In the kitchen area. And there were some¶

20 ~at were in the main living room area.¶

21 Q. Downstairs¶

22 A. Downstairs, first floor.¶

23 Q. Okay. Computers were seized?¶

24 A. One computer — two computers were seized.¶

25 One was the covert cameras, and the other one was¶

1 Mr. Banasiak’s personal computer.¶

2 Q. On either the cameras or the personal 3 computer, did you find any evidence documenting 4 the sexual activity of these girls 5 (indiscernible)?¶

6 A. No.¶

7 Q. You spoke earlier about a twin edo that 8 was found in Nada’s bedroom?¶

9 A. Correct. O¶

10 Q. Using the diagram pre•ar y Investigator 11 Parkinson, can you indic re — which bedroom 12 that was in the house’¶

S e. 13 A. It would ha vi n down towards this 14 bedroom here, I¶

15 Q. And as the massage table?¶

16 A. age — well, each room has various 17 mass e ta3les. And this was — this was the 18 m to bedroom with his bath. And there 19 ssage tables here, here, and — as well as 20 Ciotographs all through here.¶

21 Q. Okay. And the massage table the girls 22 described, was it in this room?¶

23 A. Correct. It was in the bathroom 24 here.¶

25 Q. Okay. And other than the twin torpedo,¶

1 there were no other sexual toys found in the 2 house, other than the jelly from bedside?¶

3 A. The Joy Jelly. That’s it.¶

4 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Any other questions 5 for Detective Recarey?¶

6 A JUROR: What is Jeffrey Epstein’s 7 occupation? Just for the recor¶

8 THE WITNESS: He is a • stor. He 9 invests billionaires’ mo •¶

10 MS. BELOHLAVEK: A ight.¶

11 Thank you v¶

12 A JUROR: — one more.¶

13 MS. B VEK: Sorry.¶

14 A J R Is he a United States 15 citin*¶

16 VE WITNESS: Yes.¶

17 A JUROR: Born here?¶

18 I ll’Ir THE WITNESS: Yes, sir.¶

19 MS. BELOHLAVEK: All right.¶

20 O Thank you, Detective Recarey.¶

21 (Witness excused.)¶

22 (WITNESS )¶

23 MS. BELOHLAVEK: I’m going to ask you 24 to stand up for a second and raise your 25 right hand.¶

Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: Okay. Go ahead and have a seat.¶

EXAMINATION¶

BY MS. BELOHLAVEK:¶

You’re¶

Q. All right. going to request that you do one thing it you’re here — or two.¶

COSA¶

Tell the tr umber one.¶

And numb any questions you’re asked, make sure y wer yes or no. Not uh-huh or uh-uh. t d ‘t come out real clear.¶

Ai e: Okay.¶

Q. Okay. Okay is good too.¶

All right. How old are you, _- troduce yourself. What’s your name?¶

• A.

Q.¶

Q. How old are you?¶

A. 18.¶

1 Q. When’s your birthday?¶

2 A.¶

3 Q. Where do you live?¶

4 A. In¶

5 Q. How long have you lived there?¶

6 A. Probably about 15 years or so.¶

{sup}7Q. Who do you live with?¶

8 A. My father and his girlfriend¶

9 Q. Where did you go to¶

{sup}10A. $¶

{sup}11Q. Are you still in h’ ool?¶

14 A. I got {sup}a :ri‹::”¶

Q. Did you 13¶

12 A. No.¶

{sup}15Q. And d you do that?¶

16 A.¶

{sup}17All right. Of this year, 2006?¶

18 A.¶

19 20 high school? Okay. What grade were you in when you left¶

21 A. 12th.¶

22 Q. Do you know someone named¶

24 Q. How do you know¶

25 A. I met her through school and mutual 1 friends.¶

2 Q. How old is in relation to you?¶

3 Are you the same age? Older? Younger?¶

4 A. I believe she’s about a year older than S me —¶

6 Q. Okay.¶

7 A. — if not the same age. AhAr¶

8 Q. Was she in school with you?¶

9 A. Yes.¶

10 Q. Was she a Senior when ou re a Senior?¶

11 A. I think she was o e ahead of me.¶

12 Q. Okay. What kir94 elationship did you 13 have with¶

14 A. Um, we w1YeMxiends, you could say.¶

15 Q. Okay now somebody named Jeffrey 16 Epstein?¶

17 A. Yes.¶

18 Q. ow did you go about meeting Jeffrey 19¶

294i A. introduced us.¶

21 Q. Did she take you over there one day or did 22 she talk to you about going there before you went?¶

23 A. She talked to me a little bit about it 24 beforehand, and then she went with me.¶

25 Q. Okay. Let’s talk about that conversation¶

7 to dress to do the massage? 6 Q. Did she describe to you how you would have 4 0Ӧ

1 between you and . What was it about?¶

2 A. She said that there was a man that lived in 3 Palm Beach. And that he was looking for young 4 girls to — really, all she said beforehand was 5 that it would be a massage.¶

8 A. She said to dress very girl t that was 9 really all that she said before¶

10 Q. Did she talk about how y he wanted the 11 girls? 5)¶

12 A. No. {sup}4¶

13 Q. Did she eve t about if you were asked 14 your age what o d say?¶

15 A. No.¶

16 Q. O ay. hen did you first go to Jeffrey 17 Epst n’s ome?¶

18 A. Um, I’m really not sure.¶

19 . Okay. Approximate time. Were you in your 20 enior year at school or was it your Junior year 21 at school?¶

22 A. My Junior year.¶

23 Q. So you would have been how old were you 24 in your Senior year?¶

25 A. I — well —¶

Q. You turned 18 —¶

A. — I turned 18 —¶

Q. — in your Senior year?¶

A. — in my Senior year, yes.¶

S So I was 16 and 17 in my junior year.¶

Q. During the time that you went to Jeffrey¶

Epstein’s home were you 16 or 17?¶

A. I believe 16 the first time, —¶

Q. And then your birthday’s¶

Q. 2004 you turned 17 then 2005 you’re {sup}17¶

when you go there?¶

A. Yes. 4 {sup}r¶

Q. Okay. Tg l sdoabout the first time that¶

you went th¶

A.¶

Q. I know this is difficult. They’ve heard o er pings, so don’t be embarrassed. They just 5ee you to be honest.¶

( : … 4 + A. I came in, and he asked me to take off my shirt. And I gave him aback massage. And that was more or less all that it was the first time.¶

Q. Okay. Did you take off your shirt when he asked you to?¶

Q. Was that only item of clothing you took off that time?¶

Q. Did he give you money for giving him aback massage that first time?¶

Q. How much?¶

A. $200.¶

wet er t you w er 1 te. ) Q. Now you said the first t’ think you {sup}e16. Aft hat¶

A. I may have alread 17. I’m not {sup}a hundred percent sure. ASs”,¶

Q. Okay. You ve been 17 even the first time?¶

A. Righ¶

Q. 0 ow did it come about that you went back ohis house?¶

A: she gave them my phone number. asked me if it would be okay if {sup}I¶

And I said, yes.¶

Q. How were you contacted about going back again?¶

A. Um, one of two girls that lived at the house would call me. One was Nadia, and the other, I can’t remember her name.¶

AC;Ar¶

Q. Was it Sarah?¶

A. Sarah. Yes.¶

Q. Okay. And they would call your cell phone?¶

Q. How many times do you think you went back¶

to Jeffrey Epstein’s home?¶

A. Maybe 10 or so.¶

A¶

Q. Do you recall telling the de ive you thought maybe 15 times?¶

A. Possibly. I’m really ot¶

Q. Numerous times?¶

Q. Okay. The time was just a massage, and you got the¶

Q. 10’ rogress to something other than just assaging him?¶

Tell us about what it progressed to?¶

He asked me to be completely naked while doing it.¶

Q. Did you do that?¶

He asked me to touch him. But I said no.¶

On —¶

1 Q. Did he make do you things you didn’t want 2 to do?¶

3 A. No. 4 Q. Go ahead. What happened? 5 A. On one occasion, the last time I went 6 there, he engaged intercourse. 7 Q. Okay. How old were you then? 44 0, 8 A. It was the day before my 18t thday 9 Q. Okay. Prior to the actu rcourse what 10 happened? Were there any se 1 ts either¶

11 12 performed on you, you per7o jg on him, or him performing on himself’,¶

13 A. He would tough mself.¶

14 Q. How woul o that?¶

15 A. What ou mean?¶

16 Q. I can hat — what part of his body was he 17 touc ‘ng?¶

18 A. is penis.¶

19 . Okay. Was he masturbating?¶

OA. Yes.¶

21 Q. Okay. Was that a regular occurrence?¶

23eii.¶

22 A. Yes.¶

23 Q. And he never asked you to do more than 24 that, just — did — did you watch? Did he ask 25 you to watch or he just did it while you were¶

1 massaging him?¶

2 A. He just did it.¶

3 Q. Okay. When you were massaging him, did he 4 say anything to you or make any comments?¶

5 A. Um, polite conversation.¶

6 Q. Okay. What kinds of things was he asking 7 you? AiAr¶

8 A. Just about school, and what s going to 9 do when I got older.¶

10 Q. He knew you were in s oo¶

11 A. Yes.¶

12 Q. Did he know yo¶

13 A. Yes.¶

14 Q. Did you t im that you were 17?¶

15 A. Yes.¶

16 Q. W en that?¶

17 A. The first time that I was there I told him 16 h I was.¶

19 *r Okay. Did he have a problem with that?¶

• 21 Q. Okay. Let’s go to the last time; whether 22 it’s 10 or 15 times; when you had — he penetrated 23 your vagina with his penis?

20 A. He did not seem to.¶

24 A. Yes.¶

25 Q. How did that come about?¶

1 A. He told me to lay down, cause he was going 2 to crack my back, which he had done before. And 3 he just sort of did it.¶

4 Q. I know this is difficult. You don’t want 5 to be testifying about this, do you?¶

6 A. No. Not at all.¶

7 Q. Okay. How much money were you p4during 8 the times that he masturbated in fr of you?¶

9 A. It started at 200 the fiat o pie times, 10 and then he changed it to 300.¶

11 Q. What about the fin e when there was 12 the actual penetratio .¶

13 A. 300.¶

14 Q. Why did bu st6p going there?¶

15 A. Well I n’t really want to go after 16 that. A d t didn’t call anymore after that, 17 so.¶

18 O ay. So it was a combination of both?¶

19 ?4;:k. Yes.¶

20 Q. If they had called?¶

• 21 A. Possibly, but I doubt it.

22 Q. Okay. Did you receive anything other from 23 Mr. Epstein than the cash involved? I mean did he 24 give you a car or do anything else?¶

25 A. He gave me a digital camera.¶

1 And for my birthday he gave me, like, a 2 couple bras and panties.¶

3 Q. Okay. And was that your 18th birthday?¶

4 A. Yes.¶

5 Q. And he gave that to you too?¶

6 So you were still seeing him on your 18th 7 birthday?¶

Ad lAr 8 A. It was the — like¶

9 Q. II the day before, you t d. (1 )¶

10 A. Yes.¶

11 Q. Okay. Was anybody present during the 12 massages you were giv Epstein or when he 13 was masturbating?¶

14 A. One time was in the room.¶

15 Q. Whic as that? What — what 16 activiti going on during the time that she 17 was the room?¶

18 A. Um, well, him and her had intercourse while 19 eked me to watch.¶

20 Q. When was that?¶

21 A. One of the last couple times.¶

22 Q. How long did that go on?¶

23 A. It was an hour. I was there for an hour 24 every time.¶

25 Q. Were you asked to participate in any way in¶

the sexual exchange going on between them?¶

A. Um, he asked me to touch her breasts, but nothing more than that.¶

Q. And did do you that?¶

Q. Okay. And did either of them touch you at all during that time?¶

{sup}AC5Ar A. No.¶

Q. Just one second. c? ’¶

You appear uncomforta {sup}e tifying here today. Yes?¶

A. Yes. /\CIC7¶

Q. This mornin we first met when you got here, what did me?¶

A. If tt {sup}rw s any possible way I could not testify.¶

Q. Wer€ you told you wouldn’t have to testify?¶

at was my understanding.¶

(S {sup}Iexpressed that I did not want to. And {sup}I Ihslas told that I would be contacted later on with more information on that and other subjects.¶

Q. Were you ever contacted?¶

Q. Till you got the subpoena from me?¶

Q. Okay. Do you want Mr. Epstein to be charged with any crimes in relation to what went on between he and you?¶

A. Honestly, I don’t really know.¶

Q. Okay. You expressed concerns about your father —¶

Q. — finding out he know what you were about your ac ’ 4{sup}1 ies. Does doing? 3k¶

A. He.has very minimal info ion.¶

46c¶

Q. And when did he ge information?¶

A. 2 days ago, {sup}wthe subpoena.¶

Q. Okay. So i of something you’ve confided in him¶

Q. D yo * ant to testify at atrial?¶

No.¶

Q. o you know how much money you’ve probably ot verall during this time?¶

Q. Was your dad aware you were getting the money or were you hiding it from him?¶

A. I guess you could say I hid it from him, because I did not make it a point for him to know.¶

Q. Okay. You understand that you in effect¶

were committing prostitution yourself?¶

A. I —¶

3 A JUROR: Can she speak up, please?¶

Q. Can you speak up?¶

Q. Okay. Is that an activity you have stopped?¶

AS AI¶

Q. Okay. I’m going to ask point if the grand jurors have any qu ti for you, okay? Do you need aminute?¶

A. I’m fine.¶

MS LAVEK: Any questions for Miss¶

JUROR: I didn’t quite hear.¶

Dur ng the time you were {sup}aJunior, did y while you were {sup}aJunior? r. Epstein actually have — penetrate you¶

THE WITNESS: While I was {sup}aJunior in high school, no.¶

A JUROR: Then how old were you? Again, {sup}I—¶

THE WITNESS: I was still 17 at the time.¶

1 A JUROR: You were still 17?¶

2 THE WITNESS: Yes.¶

3 4 MS. BELOHLAVEK: The day before your 18th birthday?¶

5 THE WITNESS: Yes.¶

6 A JUROR: Did you — do you have — 7 still have contact with Mr. EAzoe¶

8 THE WITNESS: No.¶

9 10 A JUROR: Does he (3::)ou have the same cell phone?¶

11 12 THE WITNESS: I’ve had three different numb ce then.¶

13 14 15 A JUR Tend you do know that since you’re she’s not — that you could be p¶

16 E WITNESS: Yes.¶

17 A JUROR: What?¶

18 ’ /14 THE WITNESS: Yes.¶

19 20 O not A JUROR: And you still say you would testify against Mr. Epstein?¶

21\ 22 to. THE WITNESS: No. I would not like¶

23 A JUROR: Would you?¶

24 THE WITNESS: I suppose if I had 25 another subpoena to where — that — going 1 to jail; yes, I would.¶

2 A JUROR: The lady back there.¶

3 4 for Miss MS. BELOHLAVEK: Any other questions¶

5 Yes,¶

6 A JUROR: You did not want to have 7 intercourse with him?¶

AC;Ar 8 THE WITNESS: No.¶

9 A JUROR: Did (::) to stop? you¶

10 THE WITNESS:¶

12 THE WITN m not really sure.¶

13 14 A JUR9 o you think he took advanta e o our youth?¶

15 ITNESS: Maybe.¶

16 17 ut it was also stupid of me to put my se .?f in that situation.¶

18 19 20 more control over you and that you knew. A JUROR: Perhaps you were too young to be up against a man of that age who had¶

21 THE WITNESS: Yes.¶

22 A JUROR: Do you feel it’s wrong of 23 him to take advantage of your youth?¶

24 THE WITNESS: Yes, I do.¶

25 A JUROR: And did he take away from¶

1 your person, your being, your spirit?¶

2 THE WITNESS: Yes.¶

3 4 5 A JUROR: And would you testify against him for what he has done and the wrong he has done?¶

6 THE WITNESS: No. Because I would 7 like to put it behind me for th t part. 8 I was successful until abou s ago.¶

9 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Y am?¶

10 A JUROR: Yes. o reason that 11 you don’t want to¶ y is more just 12 because of per mbarrassment? C ~¶

Y 13 THE W Yes.¶

14 Okay.¶

15 ELOHLAVEK: Yes, sir?¶

16 JUROR: Jeffrey knew or you had 17 18 you did tell him you were only¶

19 THE WITNESS: Yes. He was —¶

2(4 O A JUROR: And he was aware of that?¶

21 THE WITNESS: He was well aware of my 22 age from the very beginning.¶

23¶

24 A JUROR: If you had a daughter, 25 would you want her to testify or tell you? 1 THE WITNESS: I don’t really know.¶

3 A JUROR: Would it mean anything 4 special to you if you could be the person 5 that’s strong enough to stand up to put him away so he will never ever do this to A somebody else?¶

Could you be strong e Aqqto do that or want to do that? ,¶

THE WITNESS: I is hat I could say that I could, but f ly don’t think that I can.¶

MS. B VEK: Any other questions 14 for Miss¶

:) BELOHLAVEK: Yes. 17 A JUROR: The pursuit, this idea 18 about testifying, would you do it 19 mean, would you testify if you were 20 O subpoenaed, and would you tell the truth?¶

21 THE WITNESS: If I did not have a 22 choice whether or not to testify, obviously 23 I would have to.¶

24 Yes, I would tell the truth, because 25 if I’m going to have to do it, I might as¶

OR: Yeah.¶

1 well do it right.¶

2 3 character — for your own well-being A JUROR: I think, for your¶

4 5 questions, not comment. MS. BELOHLAVEK: You have to ask¶

6 7 the right thing 8 to do. A JUROR: Okay. To testify would be to do and the 1 thing Aq,:r¶

9 A JUROR: Is that (:)ion?¶

10 MS. BELOHLAVEK: ed a question.¶

11 12 circumstances? A JUROR: W u do it under those¶

13 14 between bs ying and going to jail, I 15 woul ify. Which is why I’m here 16 THE W Like I said, if it was¶

17 right. MS. BELOHLAVEK: All¶

18 Thank you, Miss¶

19 AS’ 17149V (Witness excused.)¶

20 (WITNESS JENSEN¶

U II. BELOHLAVEK: Raise your right 22 hand.¶

23 Do you swear to tell the truth, the 24 whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so 25 help you God?¶

THE WITNESS: I do.¶

EXAMINATION¶

BY MS. BELOHLAVEK:¶

Q. Can you introduce yourself, Mr. ?¶

A. Yes. My name is Jensen . I am the chief investigator with the State Attorneys Office Aim{sup}c in Palm Beach County.¶

Q. How long have you been in th osition?¶

A. I have been the chief inv tor for 3 years, and I have been employ y the State Attorneys Office for apprpx j ely 13 years.¶

Q. And what did y efore that?¶

A. I worked fo t West Palm Beach Police Department from ntil 1993 when I started with the St orneys Office.¶

Q. YqG h k reviewed some documents regarding several w1TFiesses in this case?¶

(S{sup}AYes, ir Okay I want to take you back to¶

was testifying about some drug use. Isn’t, in fact, there a police report regarding drinking and drug use by ?¶

A. There’s a police incident report from¶

Sheriff Department in¶

Q. Okay. And in that case there was some boys drinking, but it never indicates she was drinking?¶

A. I believe so. Yes, i.¶

A. She was caught with the boys and they were drinking. Aim{sup}k¶

Exhibit B that you reviewed? dI {sup}Il eve it’s l Q. Okay. Is there another¶

A. Yes, (:1) MM.¶

Q. Did ar from her home that caused concern to other?¶

A. Yes. Your _4. rmother reported her as missing to the¶

Q. And w here did her mother think she was?¶

Shcas in a known drug area, she believed.¶

fter she took off — Q. (,When they finally located her, I guess {sup}a`¶

{sup}÷ Yes.¶

Q. did she indicate that she had been drinking and doing drugs that previous night?¶

A. She has stated she had been drinking and doing the — and doing drugs the night before.¶

And she got scared and called her parents.¶

1 2 Q. Okay. There are police reports from activity in¶

3 I’m going to refer you to Exhibit C.¶

4 A. Yes,¶

5 Q. On March 31st of 2006, was there a police 6 report regarding¶

7 A. Yes, She was reported as ssing on 8 that date also.¶

9 Q. Okay. But it was her fa 10 her missing?¶

11 A. That’s correct.¶

Alip¶

12 Q. Did you say how she had been gone?¶

13 Out the 14 5:30 - nig fore, and then came home at¶

15 A. I be hat’s what it was.¶

16 Q. e morning?¶

17 A Yes I believe so. Yes, III.¶

18 Q. And how did she and her sister come home in 19 r iNi orning to get into the house?¶

21 They had returned and were inside the 41 ” ) 21 residence when the police arrived. A.¶

22 And they were packing their clothes, and 23 they were going to move out of the residence.¶

24 Q. Okay. Were observations made as to 25 their — she and her sister’s physical demeanor at¶

Q. test i out b s? {sup}ewas actually awitness that taking two and ahalf Xanax¶

I believe, st of March. yes, that’s what it was. On the¶

the time?¶

A. There was indications that they had been doing alcohol and drugs. And I believe the father had also reported that when they were dropped off that he believed the person that dropped ‘em off was a young drug dealer from the area.¶

Q. And were they taken to school aere they — did they have to come pick up from school?¶

A. Uh, yes. They were And then they received {sup}a take Cdck to school. call from the school security, the an that’s assigned to the school, and as d hat they come retrieve their — her, be e she appeared to be intoxicated t time.¶

Q. And Xanax is a controlled substance?¶

Q. And it would be afelony to possess that?¶

If you are caught with it, did not have {sup}a¶

prescription or anything, you could be arrested and charged with a felony.¶

Q. Okay. You’ve reviewed¶

MySpace.com¶

Q. — website information?¶

A. Yes. I have looked at it.¶

Q. Does she misrepresent her age there?¶

A. I believe there occasions. as 18. On the same date she reports her ag {sup}abeing 16. And then again on April the 5th s eports her age as being 15. On March reported her age as 17 were fou the 5th sh Chim: ported her age rent ther entry she arch the 28th of 2006¶

Q. And e does she also talk about doing drugs an {sup}ring alcohol?¶

A. Yee. She does.¶

Q. ‘at at about shoplifting? Does she report hh ever shoplifted?¶

A. She admits to that. Lots of shoplifting.¶

That’s — specific.¶

Q. Her web name, what does she have as her web name on the website?¶

Exhibit H, I believe.¶

A. I believe it’s called¶

1 Q. And does her website also include pictures 2 of her in skimpy attire, drinking alcohol, and 3 sexually provocative photos?¶

4 A. Yes,¶

5 Q. I’m going to show you these photos. Are 6 these photos of that were on her website?¶

7 A. Yes, MI.¶

AC5Ar 8 Q. Okay.¶

9 Ha been 10 arrested?¶

11 A. Yes, 10¶

12 Q. When was that¶

13 A. September tj N h of 2005 she had charges 14 filed against he 15 possession possession of marijuana, and g paraphernalia.¶

16 17 Q. seei Mr. Epstein - was during the time that she was¶

18 A.¶

19 — the suspect in this matter?¶

20 (:5 1KA. I can’t answer that.¶

21 y Q. Okay. What about theft allegations, has 22 she admitted to stealing also?¶

23 A. She was employed by . And 24 in November of 2006 she was accused by her 25 employer, and she admitted to it.¶

Q. She also had some MySpace.com website?¶

Q. On there does she go through and write out about afalsification of records and lies to people that she has done?¶

A. Yes. That is included in some of the documents that I reviewed. ALA{sup}r¶

Q. Exhibit C, could you read wh e wrote on August 5, 2005?¶

A. Hey. Wow, living wi y parents anymore is the shit. For f you who are not aware, I moved to yy So far everything is going well. We and I am getting along; not like everyon {sup}eicted. not¶

u guys live together, all that time tog ill be horrible. And that’s in quotations. The complete opposite of the matter¶

I went job hunting the second day that we The day after that I was, like, fucking — fuck this, and I didn’t return — turn them in. I just got so tired. Yesterday is when I took them. re here, but all {sup}Idid was get applications.¶

I ended up getting a job at¶

I only get paid $6.40 an hour, but¶

1 2 3 hopefully that will change soon. I also get a discount at all the , and¶

4 5 I like my boss so far. I mean, he only met me twice, but she’s real cool.¶

6 is trying to get a job at an He 7 likes music, so I think he’s going going 8 to fit for him a good fit for hi really 9 hope he gets it. The boss guy him back to 10 set up an interview the day 11 application, I think that ood sign. It 12 starts at 4 p.m. in with the¶

13 He’s at the liL,right now. I got to call 14 him and ask him hoA ’ went in the — in a little 15 while. Its :45 right now.¶

16 as so funny. I used him as one of 17 18 my r eren es for my ; which I interpreted ; and the lady called me back 19 n old me that gave me such a 20 tstanding reference that she did not need to 21 call anyone else back. He got me the job just 22 23 fucking great. like that. He made me sound so fucking good — so¶

24 I lied and said that he was the old store 25 manager for She bought it.¶

1 There’s a notation, S-T-R 8. I’m not 2 exactly sure what that makes reference to.¶

3 No complaints from me. Okay, well I got to 4 go smoke some resin, considering I have a limited 5 supply of Mary J and have to conserve.¶

6 I miss everyone back home. I love you 7 guys. Don’t forget about me. AiAr¶

8 Q. In Exhibit C, does she make rences to 9 being famous?¶

10 A. There is — yes. She wo like to be 11 famous or known to be fa¶

12 Q. And how does s cate she would like to 13 be famous?¶

14 A. There is t tion on one of her blogs, 15 that she sa would like to meet Bill Clinton 16 this wee , b use someone — and this is in 17 quot s no - —)“Someone "" Someone could be so famous for 18 s kin is dick; that’s how famous I could be.” 19 f quote.¶

20 Q. Okay. And then there’s a lot of other 21 stuff where she talks about accepted use of 22 marijuana?¶

23 A. Referred to as weed, yes.¶

24 Q. Right.¶

25 And pictures on her website of her smoking¶

1 weed and drinking beer?¶

2 A. That’s correct.¶

3 Q. Holding a bong-type pipe?¶

4 A. Correct.¶

5 Q. Okay.¶

6 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Any questions for¶

7 Mr. IIIIP¶

8 Okay.¶

9 10 A JUROR: When youC s~~I \ . .l, to doing drugs, does that means ng dope?¶

11 I mean, wha that mean?¶

12 Drinking? I d you know, does it 13 encompass -¶

14 THE?f%cp SS: 15 that er 16 My interpretation is be smoking marijuana or doing s, cocaine or something like that.¶

17 18 19 20 21 cocaine or something. If it was drinking I would refer to TIC it as drinking alcohol. But when they refer to doing drugs, it’s either smoking marijuana or talking a hard drug such and¶

22 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Do you know what —¶

23 A JUROR: Thank you, sir.¶

24 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Do you know what 25 smoking resin means?¶

AJI;Ar¶

THE WITNESS: I have not heard that resin used before. That’s something new to me.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: Other questions?¶

Yes, III’S.¶

{sup}AJUROR: What was the date when she was talking about being famous? you know? Ac/o,¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: I ibit D.¶

Yea 3::) THE WITNESS:¶

I’m going tly h that exhibit now to find the exact¶

_`E A EK: On the first page.¶

Log-in da e 1 —¶

T TNESS: 11/7/2005.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: Any other questions?¶

Yes, ?¶

A S Ti lillir {sup}AJUROR: The — the one girl who had 20i: 1 moved to , you mentioned that she had run away or was missing several times. Was that while she was here or after she moved to that she started being — she was missing?¶

Her parents didn’t know where she¶

JUROR: Thank you.¶

1 was.¶

2 3 THE WITNESS: That was in both and in¶

4 5 teenagers 6 the truth A JUROR: Do you typically find that that have MySpaces tend to tell on those websites or tend to try 7 to sound adventurous or — what — is 8 their accuracy to their statem ill;Lovs?¶

9 THE WITNESS: This 10 personal observation on art; and I 11 would say, no. e a¶

12 I would 13 be more tha 14 that’s 15 have 16 a to ersonal t would be — it would wasn’t the truth. And personal observation. I support that or observation. not, that’s¶

17 Yes sir?¶

18 19 20 arrest records that would, you know, 21 indicate behavior like this from this girl 22 from her early age? vv* A JUROR: Are there any kind of school reports, psychological reports,¶

23 THE WITNESS: Those are the only 24 police reports that I have, is the one from 25 Georgia and the ones from Florida. If¶

there’s others, I haven’t been made available to those.¶

A JUROR: Okay.¶

THE WITNESS: And the psychological report, I wouldn’t —¶

MS BELOHLAVEK: The report — Palm Beach County Sheriff’s report {sup}o , Exhibit {sup}C¶

with her father? MS. BELOHLAVEK: -add they speak¶

Second p that report.¶

And did indicate, has been to afaci i or drug use?¶

TNESS: There was a reference I’m assuming that —¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: For drug use?¶

A S IC IIii.r has been using — as told by the MS. BELOHLAVEK: And does it say that i iw; father, using narcotics since the age of 14?¶

A JUROR: Yes. Since she was in the family center or drug rehab, whatever it was, how has her behavior been or what has her drug activity been?¶

THE WITNESS: I have no direct knowledge of that.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: The most ent report is dated when? Ac/{sup}r¶

Palm Beach County¶

THE WITNESS: Palm ’ dch County. Palm Beach County jis dated March the 31st of 2006. ‘Ss.,¶

lic4VEK: was she’s bat And that alm Beach County.¶

TNESS: Yes.¶

incidents in were all in November — . BELOHLAVEK: Because the¶

THE WITNESS: November.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: — 2005, or January 2006?¶

THE WITNESS: That’s correct.¶

rehabilitation? What’s the date that she was in? {sup}AJUROR: When — when was she in the THE WITNESS: This was after — well it’s noted in the Palm Beach County report, the police report, that she had been to for drug treatment. It —¶

taking the Xanax bars? MS. BELOHLAVEK: So previous to her¶

here’s no exact date described in tie eport. THE WITNESS: Correct.¶

A JUROR: So s going to ask, I gue in the last year or Cri• discernible) since March, how h behavior —¶

knowledge MS. BELO * sop, {sup}VDo you have Ak oNt Mr.¶

TH N SS: No, I do not.¶

y involved in (indiscernible) — Recent — is she still¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: Do you have any knowledge about that?¶

THE WITNESS: No, UM I do not.¶

A JUROR: What are Xanax bars?¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: We can find that out for you.¶

A JUROR: Okay.¶

MS. BELOHLAVEK: And you’ll know¶

1 after lunch.¶

{sup}2Any other questions?¶

{sup}3All right. How about we take alunch¶

4 break till 1:30?¶

5 wait.¶

{sup}6A JUROR: I had one question.¶

7 Would anybody else here lj to bring¶

8 back? 1¶

9 A JUROR: No.¶

10 {sup}AJUROR: No. ( f.5: #¶

12 A JUROR: or ?¶

13 A JUR¶

14 A J49 / , excuse me.¶

15 nly reason I have is that —¶

16 . BELOHLAVEK: Let’s not do this in 17 frdTPf of the witness, okay?¶

<1.”6¶

19 MS. BELOHLAVEK: Thank you, Mr. .¶

A l iiiiIV¶

18 {sup}S {sup}AJUROR: Okay.¶

2,; iLiswi 21. (WITNESS JENSEN RECALLED)¶

(Witness excused.)¶

22 CONTINUED EXAMINATION¶

23 BY MS. BELOHLAVEK:¶

{sup}24Q. Jurors asked you {sup}aquestion earlier about,¶

25 what is Xanax?¶

A. Yes. And during —¶

Q. Were you able to find that out?¶

During our break I went back and {sup}I researched it.¶

And using what is referred to as {sup}aPDR, which is a Physicians Desk Reference; identifies and gives drugs and ever g like that. They identify, Xanax is uilizer used in the short term relief of sym {sup}sof anxiety or the treatment of anxiety ers.¶

Q. Okay. And poss_e4j of that without {sup}a prescription, some e ou d be charged with {sup}a felony?¶

?S’¶

A. That ect.¶

BELOHLAVEK: All right.¶

Thank you very much.¶

(Witness excused.)¶

<;.fr (Proceeding concluded 12:52 p.m.)¶

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CERTI FICATE¶

THE STATE OF FLORIDA, COUNTY OF PALM BEACH.¶

I, CATHERINE P. DORE, R.P.R. and Official Court Reporter for the Fifteenth Judicial Circuit, Criminal Division, in and for, mBeach County, Florida; do hereby certify t I was authorized to and did transcribe ~oregoing proceedings at the time and pla foresaid; and that the preceding pages ed from 1 to 157, inclusive, represent and accurate transcription of tb44dio recording of said proceedings.¶

ESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto affixed ocial signature this 17th day of July, 202¶

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CATHERINE P. DORE, R.P.R. and Official Court Reporter¶