**The Psychological Trauma Center**\
a division of Preventive Psychiatry Associates Medical Group, Inc.\
Medical Director: Gilbert W. Kliman, M. D.

2105 Divisadero St., San Francisco, CA 94115\
Phone (415)292-7119 Fax (415) 749-2802\
[www.expertchildpsychiatry.com](http://www.expertchildpsychiatry.com)

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*Forensic Child Psychiatric Evaluations, Life Care Plans & Testimony*

Tape 2

[REDACTED] with Dr. Kliman\
12/2/08

Transcription by: K. Rios

00:00:05

Dr. Kliman: This is the second tape we're making today; you know I realized that I didn't get your preference for what you would like me to call you.

[REDACTED] Oh [REDACTED]

Dr. Kliman: [REDACTED] I apologize.

[REDACTED] That's okay.

Dr. Kliman: The time is now 3:27 and you were telling me when I asked you about other bad things that happened in college, you mentioned some thing's that were; sounded more like there in obstacles category rather than in harmful things like your soccer got in the way of international business and biology; but you finally finished international business with an A; and your gonna be taking biology so I was thinking of those as obstacles. While, the problems with your alcoholic drug abusing disappointing boyfriend whom you cared about so much that sounds like a stressful problem. Now...when you had those troubles with your boyfriend would you say that those were serious problems for you, emotionally?

[REDACTED] Emotionally, yes I cared about him but I mean you can only take so much; I mean I was with him, known him for like 5 years; and after a while you just kinda like... you realize like you love the person but your not in love with the person; and that's kinda like, kinda how what happened to me; like I loved him and I knew I wasn't in love with him that's not the person I wanted to be with. So I mean, I took me like 3 years to realize that; 2 ½ years I mean the last like two years I mean there was really nothing there I just kinda of kept going back to the like same old same old and after a while you just, I don't know; I didn't want to be with him anymore.

"B"

or

00:02:39

Dr. Kliman: What emotional reactions did you have to this change in your relationship?

S

00:03:47

Dr. Kliman: How long did it take you between the time of the restraining order and the time of meeting someone else?

Dr. Kliman: Last week of the first year of college?

S Yeah

Dr. Minim: Freshman year?

r

00:05:15

Nothing really, I mean its not like I was around him all the time because <sup>I</sup> lived in Boca and he was living in Jacksonville. So it wasn't like he was around all the time for me to like really be disappointed because when <sup>I</sup> went to college I was single, I was by myself. I was going up to Jacksonville pretty much like every weekend though to go visit him, but <sup>I</sup> was used to like being by myself throughout the week and like the girls on my team were there to help me and support me and like one of my roommate was kinda of like going through the same thing; so we were both kinda there for each other; and I don't know, I just have...I have alot of good friends there to help me like, I was going out with my friends ge<sup>t</sup> my mind off of it and eventually that's when I met...I ended up meeting somebody else he kinda filled that void for me.

Well.../ got the restraining order when I was probably like 17 years old; and I got back together with Preston when I was probably around 18. So its not like the restraining order was what made me stop seeing Preston. <sup>I</sup> met Allan, I knew Allan...my new boyfriend; <sup>I</sup>met him at the end; like the last week of college. He goes to my school.

Yeah my freshman year so I didn't really know him; I o <sup>w</sup>him for like aweek and then Sophomore year when I got back toll'. I just like knew of him me and him were like friends. There was nothing there like freshman year; like we were just friends. Like when I would go out in Boca I'd see him out; and finally whenever I cut all ties with my exboyfriend Iwould go out all the time, go out with my fiiends and like we would hang out alot more like in the beginning of my junior year. Is whenever things like were really good between me an Allan.

Dr. Kliman: Does he spell his name with an "B"?