## UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA CASE NO.: 08-CV-80119-MARRAMS JANE DOE NO. 2, Plaintiff, -vs- JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Defendant. VOLUME III OF III ## Related cases: 08-80232, 08-08380, 08-80381, 08-80994, 08-80993, 08-80811, 08-80893, 09-80469, 09-80591, 09-80656, 09-80802, 09-81092 VIDEO-CONFERENCED AND VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JANE DOE NO. 4 Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:11 - 6:05 p.m. 250 Australian Avenue South Suite 115 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Reported B: Cynthia, RPR, FPR Notary Public, State of Florida Prose Court Reporting if Electronically signed by cynthia Electronically signed by cynthia Electronically signed by cynthia (601-051-976-2934) (601-061-976-2934) 1 \* * * * \* 2 CONTINUED DIRECT EXAMINATION 3 THE VIDEOGRAPHER: It is the beginning of 4 Tape Number 3. We're back on the record at 5 4:19. 6 BY MR. LUTTIER: 7 Q. All right. When did you have your first abortion? 8 A. Sixteen. 10 Q. Which would have been -- what year was that? 11 12 A. I think it was, I don't remember, but I think it was when I was 16. 13 14 Q. Let's see, you were a senior -- 15 A. A sophomore. 16 Q. -- you were 17 when you were a senior, right? 17 18 A. It might have been my sophomore or junior year. I don't remember. 19 20 Q. Sophomore or junior year in high school? 21 A. Yeah. 22 Q. And where did you have that abortion? 23 A. I don't remember what the place was 24 called, The Pres -- Pres -- 25 Q. Presidential Women's Clinic? 1 A. Yeah, I think so. 2 Q. Over on Congress Avenue? 3 A. Yeah. 4 Q. And did you register under your real name? 5 A. Yeah. 6 Q. Did anybody go with you? 7 A. Yeah. 8 Q. Who? 9 A. IIIIIIIIIk 10 Q. And who was the daddy of that baby? 11 A. III111111 12 Q. And who paid for it? 13 A. IIIIIIIII 14 Q. Do you know what it cost? 15 A. \$300, I think. 16 Q. Was that the first time you were pregnant? 17 A. Yeah. 18 Q. And would you agree with me, that age 16 19 to have to go have an abortion was traumatic to you? 20 MR. MERMELSTEIN: Objection to form. 21 THE WITNESS: Yeah. 22 BY MR. LUTTIER: 23 Q. When was your second abortion? 24 A. In my senior year in high school. 25 Q. That was when you were 17? 1 A. Yes. 2 Q. And where did you get that one? 3 A. Same place. 4 Q. You registered under your real name? 5 A. Yes. 6 Q. Did anybody go with you? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. Who? 9 A. IIIIIIIIP 10 Q. Who was the daddy? 11 A. IIIIIIIIIIIF 12 Q. Who paid for it? 13 A. NMI 14 Q. Now, I, I assume at some point in your 15 life somebody explained to you what birth control 16 was. 17 A. Yeah. 18 Q. After you aborted one child, didn't you 19 use birth control to keep from getting pregnant? 20 A. Yeah, I did. I was using birth control. 21 Q. And so, obviously, if you had the baby, 22 your first baby if you were pregnant at 16 -- 23 A. I wasn't using birth control then. 24 MR. MERMELSTEIN: How about letting him 25 finish. Let him finish.