IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN ![](<>)![](<>)![](<>)Notary Public, State of Florida Consor and Associates Phone - 561.682.0905 ORIGINAL "C" (Thereupon, the following interview was had:) BY DETECTIVE RECAREY: Q Today's date is October 4th, 2005. This is ID number 7915 Detective Joe Recarey of the Palm Beach Police Department. Present at 1301 (inaudible) Road is Detective Michael Dawson of the Palm Beach Police Department. And can you state your name for the record? A Q Show do you spell your last name? A Q Okay. How old are you? A I'm 18. Q Eighteen. Okay. You're currently in college? A Yeah. Q Okay. What college are you attending? A Valencia. Q Valencia. Okay. And your date of birth is? A Q Okay. Can you raise your right hand for me? Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God? A Yes. Q Okay.IIIIIIII if you could tell me from the beginning how you met Jeffrey Epstein. Iknow you have some here last night, spoke with your mom and dad. If you can information and we are conducting an investigation. We were just start from the beginning as to how you met him. A Okay. Q And how it came about. AI met him through my friend Haley. Q Okay. How long ago was that? AIt was probably about almost a year ago. Q Okay. Okay. him a massage and then she asked me if I wanted to do it and then I did it or whatever and then after that like he kind of scared me when I went there so Ijust decided not to go back. AAnd he -- I went there once with her and she gave go upstairs with him? Okay. The first time you went with Haley, did you A No, I stayed down in the kitchen. Q Okay. Did Haley tell you that -- what was entailed as to what had to be done? A Well she said the first time you go it's just like a massage and she said like well, the more you go supposedly the more he like expects and starts flirting with girls and that's what kind of like scared me. told me pretty much the same thing about the massage but QOkay. I've interviewed other girls and they've there's more to that. More to the massage. Okay? That's why I didn't want mom to be in here. And you can talk to me about anything. Okay? Like I said, I've interviewed other people already who have told me what transpired in that room. I know it's going to be difficult for you but... A Well, the first time I went there I did a massage and he was just asking me a lot of questions. He seemed like really nice. And then he kept like staring at me and stuff. And then like I did a massage and he just kept looking at me and he was like II, you're being shy and I'm like yeah. And he's like do you feel uncomfortable and I was like yeah, alittle bit. And he's like okay. And he said well do you want to stop, and I was like no, it's okay. And he was like why are you like being shy and I was like II, I don't know. And then he would like change the subject and he started talking about other things. And then when we were done he said that if like I wanted to come back and do more then he would like pay me more and then I would have to talk to Haley and I could come back. Q Okay. What kind of questions did he ask you as you were massaging him? A He was asking about -- it was a year ago. I don't remember everything but... Q Right. A He was just asking me if I had any friends that might want to give a massage and I said I don't know. Then he asked me about what I wanted to do when I grew up and stuff like that and I asked him what he did and he said he was like ascientist basically. Q Okay. Did he ever ask you how old you were? A No. Q No. Did he know that you were 17? A No, I don't think so. Q Well it would have been 16 if it was a year ago, right? A Well it like was almost a year ago. (Inaudible) 17. Q Okay. During the massage did you -- were you naked or -- A No. I had my clothes on. Q You had all your clothes on? A Uh-huh. Q Okay. Did he touch you in any way? A He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I was like you could tell I was shy so I think that's why he didn't try. But I heard about other girls that he -- that he got flirtatious with them and he made them take off their clothes and stuff. Q Okay. What -- that was the first time you went, right? 1 A Yeah. 2 Q Okay. 3 A Well, no. It was the second time that I gave him 4 a massage. The first time I went up with Haley. 5 Q Okay. You went upstairs with Haley? 6 A No, I was in the kitchen. 7 Q You were in the kitchen. That was -- you only had 8 two times that you went there? 9 A Yeah. 10 11 in the The first time you didn't do anything but just sit kitchen? 12 A Yeah. 13 Who did you sit in the kitchen with? 14 A 15 was like two other girls there that live with him. He had a IIII that was there and he had -- there 16 Q Okay. Did you massage his back? Was he naked 17 when you were massaging him? 18 A Well, he had like a towel around his -- his upper 19 was (inaudible) but he had like a towel around him. 20 Q Okay. Did he ever remove that towel? 21 A No. 22 Q When you were massaging him he never removed the 23 towel? 24 A No. 25 Q Okay. Did you -- did he have you touch his 1 private area? 2 A No. No. I wouldn't do that. 3 Q You wouldn't do that? 4 Okay. Did he touch you in your private area? 5 A No. No. 6 Q No. 7 A He kept like staring at me and like, I don't know, 8 I just felt uncomfortable and I left. But I heard other 9 stories that like -- 10 Q Right. I'm concerned with you. I know about 11 other stories and I've interviewed other people have told me 12 different things. That's why I'm trying to find out what 13 happened to you. Okay? 14 A Uh-huh. 15 0 You're the victim in this so that's why I'm trying 16 to find out what happens to you. 17 A Uh-huh. 18 Q Okay? Who took you upstairs to the room? 19 A This girl Sarah that lives with him. 20 0 Okay. So Sarah took you up? 21 A Yes. 22 Q Did she tell you anything? Did she say anything? 23 A Huh-huh. There's a massage table and she just 24 laid a towel down and she said that Jeffrey will be out for 25 his massage. 1 Q Okay. Have you received any massage training? 2 A No. 3 Q No. I have to ask. 4 Was Sarah one .of the two girls that was in the 5 kitchen with you? 6 A Yes. 7 Q Okay. Did you ever go back to his house? 8 A Well, I just went there twice. 9 Q Right. 10 A After that -- 11 Q After that you've never come back? Never went 12 back? 13 How much did you receive for the massage? 14 A Two hundred. 15 Q You received 200. 16 17 be Okay. Did Haley explain to you what was going to involved? 18 A She said the first time you go there you pretty 19 much just give a massage, but the more you go there like the 20 more he expects. And that's it. That scared me. 21 Q That's what scared you? 22 BY DETECTIVE DAWSON: 23 Q Did she say (inaudible) or did she (inaudible -- 24 A Say didn't have to say it exactly but she implied 25 like, you know, like taking your clothes off and stuff like