| From: | on behalf of Ben Goertzel | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | Sent: | Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:55 AM | | To: | Jeffrey Epstein | | Subject: | Re: Thanks! (& proposal, Google, etc.) | | By the wayM(who is now living in Hong Kong as well) and I are having a lot of fun thinking through this proposal
you've asked for -- it's quite refreshing to "think big" ;-) | | | On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Ben Goertzel •r
> Hi, | • wrote: | | | > Thanks for taking the time from your busy morning to chat w/ me | | > I can talk again at 9AM or LOAM your time basically any day you
> choose 7PM your time also works just let me know | | | > behavior on the broad level) | > You've mentioned the "deception" theme to me a number of times before;
> but this time we're at a stage with OpenCog development where we could
> actually take that as a development goal (simulating human deceptive | | > end. The outline is clear in my head (core AGI work + NLP +
> that's all right | > I will put together a proposal such as you've requested: roughly \$25M
> to be used over 3 years, resulting in breakthrough AG goals by the
> sensors/actuators + distributed computing infrastructure), but I want
> to think it through a little (specifically regarding what incremental
> milestones to suggest), so I'll aim to get you something by Monday, if | | > would be pretty interesting for all concerned ;-) My former
> fund Ray's brain-building work | > You mentioned Google: I've visited Ray Kurzweil and his team there in
> Mountain View once, and will visit them again on Jan. 7 2014. If you
> happen to be in California then, you could crash the meeting; that
> student & employee Dr. Moshe Looks is working for Ray there, which has
> given me an inside view of what they're doing. It's really not AGI at
> this point; they're aimed at helping Google exploit theire Knowledge
> Graph better. Ray's aim is to impress Larry Page enough, by doing
> useful Knowledge Graph stuff for Google, that Larry will eventually | | > I understand your frustration with my slow progress over the years ---
> and I don't think the slowness is because I'm inefficient; I think
> it's mostly because this is a big task with many parts to build and
> fit together. (Of course, I've also been slowed down a bit by the
> fact that I'm always spending part of my time doing non-AGI stuff to
> generate income) At the modest but steady pace I've been taking,
> I *will* get there to the end goal of advanced AGI, but obviously not
> as fast as we'd like | | ``` > But, bear in mind that, even without a lot more $$, we'll have 10 > students/postdocs on OpenCog here next year; so I'm hopeful we can > make it a breakthrough year... But of course, it would be **great" > to be able to move significantly faster; and significantly more $$ > would indeed enable that.... I hope we can find a way to really > accelerate the work! ... > Thanks ;) > ben > -- > Ben Goertzel PhD > "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane". -- Capt. > James T. Kirk ``` Ben Goertzel, PhD ``` "In an insane world, the sane man must appear to be insane". -- Capt. James T. Kirk date-last-viewed creal>0.0 date-received 1385535276 flags 8590195713 gmail-label-ids 5 18 original-mailbox imap:Meevacation@imap.gmail.com/%58Gmail%5D/All%20Mail remote-id 365937 ```