IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE 15TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT\ IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA JEFFREY EPSTEIN, CASE NO. 502009CA040800XXXXMBAG Plaintiff,\ vs. SCOTT ROTHSTEIN, individually,\ [REDACTED] J. [REDACTED], individually and\ L.M., individually, Defendant(s).\ \_\_\_\_\_ FILED:\ 12 NOV - 8 AM 10: 54\ SHARED BOOK CLERK\ PALM BEACH COUNTY, FL\ CIRCUIT CIVIL 6 NOTICE OF FILING COMES NOW Jeffrey Epstein, through counsel undersigned, hereby notifies the Court that the attached is being placed in the Court File for review: Excerpt transcript of proceedings from October 25, 2012, copy attached hereto. I HEREBY CERTIFY that a copy of the foregoing was furnished via Email to all counsel listed below, this 2nd day of November, 2012. FRED HADDAD, P.A.\ One Financial Plaza, Suite 2612\ Fort Lauderdale, Florida 83394\ Tel: [954] 467-6767\ Fax: [954] 467-3599 ![](<>)CLERKS OFFICE # COUNSEL LIST Jack Scarola, Esq. E-mail: jsx@searcvlaw.com & mep@searcvlaw.c0n1 2139 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd West Palm Beach, Florida 33409 Jack Goldberger, Esq. E-mail: jgoldberger@agwpa.com & smahoneyna 250 Australian Avenue, South, Suite 1400 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Marc Nurik, Esq. E-mail: marc@nuriklaw.com One East Broward Blvd., Suite 700 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 Bradley J. Esq. E-mail: bje.efile@pathtujustice.com & ff.efil 425 N. Andrews Avenue, Suite 2 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 Tonja Haddad Coleman, Esq. E-mail: toniaettonjahaddad.com & deb 315 S.E. 7"' Street, Suite 301 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 AS ) Lilly Ann M, Esq. E-mail: Isanchez@thelsfirm.co 1441 Brickell Avenue, 1 moor Miami, Florida 331 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Plaintiff, vs. Case No. 502009CA040800XXXXMBAG SCOTT ROTHSTEIN, individually, J. individually, and L.M., individually, Defendants. # s EXCERPT TRANSCRIPT -4' r EEDINGS .1(8: DATE TAKEN: Th4day, October 25th, 2012 TIME: 030 p.m.- 2:23 p.m. PLACE 205 N. Dixie Highway, Room 9C West Palm Beach, Florida BEFORE: k J David, Presiding Judge ORIGINAL This 1F,ause came on to be heard at the time and place aforesaid, when and where the following proceedings were reported by: Sonja D. Florida Professional Reporter Palm Beach Reporting Service, Inc. 1665 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 1001 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 (561) 471-2995 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 APPEARANCES: For SEARCY, DENNEY, SCAROLA, BARNHART & SHIPLEY, P.A. 2139 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd. West Palm Beach, FL 33409 By DARRYL L. IIIII, ESQUIRE Pro Se: , JAFFE, WEISSING, , FI LEHRMAN, P.L. 425 North Andrews Avenue #2 By J. Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 For Jeffrey Epstein: FRED HADDAD, P.A. One Financial Plaza-, ite 2612 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33394 By FRED HADDAD 'ESQUIRE For Jeffrey Epste : TONJA HADDAD COLEMAN, P.A. 524 S Andrews Avenue Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 By TONJA HADDAD COLEMAN, ESQUIRE For Jeffrey Epstein: ATTERBURY, GOLDBERGER & WEISS, P.A. 250 Australian Ave. South, Suite 1400 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 By JACK A. GOLDBERGER, ESQUIRE 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ## DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. Q What is your profession? A Attorney. Q At some point in time were you employed by the law firm of RRA, the way it's been called i case? A Yes, from approximately April.of"200'9 until what Mr. Haddad described as implosion around, I believe, November lst, 2009, but otbly the day before. Q And in what cape were you employed by that firm? A I was a 'aetorney. I was an employee there. Q And when you came to the firm, did you bring some cases with you where you were prosecuting some cases on behalf of some minor children against Mr.-- stein for him molesting them? Q Yes. There were two different lassifications of cases all revolving around the same issue. i filed them all around the same time in 2008. One, I represented -- ultimately I represented, I believe, 10 to 12 victims of Jeffrey Epstein. But while I was at RRA, I represented at least three files that were being litigated. I had filed those in 2008. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 In addition to those files, I was litigating, and still currently litigating, another case on behalf of all of Jeffrey Epstein's minor victims against the United States Attorney's Office wherein the allegations are that the U.S. Attorney's Office improperly gave Jeffrey Epstein immunity prosecution of the crimes against these vic violation of the Crime Victims Rights App case is currently pending in front of Judge Marra. Jeffrey Epstein has intervened in that case and certainly is interested in knowing the information that we have regarding those allegations. And if -- one of the things that we are asking for in that case is to overturn the immunity agreement which would open him back up to prosecution. Those causes were all being litigated while was at RRA, and the Crime Victims Rights Act c .Sts. till active today. C1 Al ' Now, who was your supervisor at RRA, your e irect supervisor? A Adler was the head of the personal injury tort division. He was in charge of the division, and that's the division that I was in. And did you have communications from time to time with Mr. Adler regarding these cases against 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein? A It was more than just from time to time. Adler knew what was going on with the cases, we had Epstein meetings where myself, former Judge Bill Berger, Russ Adler, other members of the firm would talk about Epstein, talk strategy about Epstei AR mental impressions were out on the table, s speak; discovery, strategy was discussed. intimate details of our clients was Not-on at, the discussed. Things that all fall into the parameter work product IS privilege and attorney-clien ege, and that's just in-person communica n '' Q In additio o -person communications with Mr. Adler on a regular basis regarding these cases, was there also a computer program at the firm called Q Task? Z isf .r is? Q Can you explain to Judge what Q Task A Yes. THE COURT: Say that again. MR. Q Task, T-A-S-K, Judge. Q Can you explain what that is, please? A Adler describes that program much better than I do. He was one of the creators of the 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 program, and it was a very good program. I only used it during the time at RRA. I think Russ Adler has described himself as an evangelist for the program. But it is basically a virtual boardroom for attorneys to communicate specifically back and forth, have meetings in a virtual manner so that you can discuss cases, details of cases, strategy on cases. one of the projects -- actually, every case, I had a project within Q Task. Certain people would give impact or input on cases were i o the project. Both myself and Russ Adler w hose projects, which means everything t sted or Bill Berger, for instance, posted, uss Adler posted -- I believe those were the main parEicipants in that project - would have access to literally everything that was in that communication device. Q Let's be very specific for Judge . Did t- stein project have a Q Task project associated hat case? A There was an Epstein project. Q Was Mr. Adler also on the Q Task list for that project? A Yes. Meaning he had access to literally all of the privileged communications and privileged information, work product, attorney-client and 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 otherwise, all of it that I had access to, Mr. Adler also had access to. Q And can you explain to the Judge what it was for? A It was so that we could brainstorm, share ideas, discuss strategy, discuss discovery, disc what was going on in the case, and we would n lci lbihave to call formal meetings. we would communicate private manner about details involving any case going to that project. Q Let's be specific about the Epstein case, which is why we are here / ali l y ow that they have an unfair advantage by M . v ad representing both Mr. Epstein and - ead. Just keep it to the Epstein A The Epstein case was one project that I communicated ideas in, Russ Adler communicated ideas in: I was handling the case; I was the primary attorney. Any idea that I had to bounce off of any other attorney that was in this project, the other attorneys invited to that private project also had access to. So Russ Adler had access to literally all of my mental impressions going on that were in this private site. It is designed -- basically designed 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 and utilized solely for the purpose of sharing privileged information amongst lawyers in the law firm. Q Can you please share with the court whether or not you considered all bf those communications with Mr. Adler and the other lawyers who were on that Q Task project privileged? A Of course, so did Russ Adler, and, I believe, Mr. Haddad definitely won't dispute that. Q Now, from your perspec 4 re you concerned with respect to al e communications, personal communications t li kt had with Mr. Adler in person where you were talking about the Epstein case, all the communications that you had on Q Task that you considered privileged, that with Mr. Haddad representing Mr. Adler how that can give him a tactical advantage in his representation now of Mr. Epstein? Can you explain that to Judge please? A I am concerned because Russ Adler had access to all of the information I knew. Mr. Haddad representing Jeffrey Epstein would be no different at this point than Russ Adler representing Jeffrey Epstein. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 based exclusively on things that I did while at RRA. The allegations against Russ Adler had been made similar allegations, but made by Scott Rothstein against Russ Adler. Mr. Haddad has the task of defending Russ Adler in those allegations. I am assuming any information that would help to acquit or defend Russ Adler, that Mr. Haddad could ask his clients about those things. And if it would assist in that defense then he certainly would. And certainly, all of this information that is privileged that Russ Adler has, he would have the ability to share with his attorney -- probably should share with his attorney so that s ttorney can effectively represent him And I have a problem understanding how Mr. Haddad could represent Russ Adler in the exact accusations related to his actions at the time that he was at RRA when Scott Rothstein is alleging that he was, in Scott Rothstein's words, deeply involved in the Ponzi scheme and a co-conspirator, that Russ Adler is saying are false; and how Mr. Haddad can represent Russ Adler against those accusations and divorce himself from the knowledge that he learned from Russ Adler so that he can represent Jeffrey 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 r. (\<, THE WITNESS: I am sure that Mr. Haddad ould be better able to explain this. But Adler was from the very beginning a target of a criminal investigation. He has not been cleared as of yet to the extent that I know. Epstein in this action without utilizing information he learned or could learn from his client. THE COURT: Let me confused. What lawsuit Mr. Haddad representing -- I want to -- I'm or claim is Mr. Adler in regards to allegations that he is involved in the Ponzi scheme? THE WITNESS: I believe that from the very - Mr. Adler has not been charged. THE COURT: I am asking is there any pending either criminal or civil matter against Mr. Adler based upon allegations that he was involved in some way in this - you-,keep saying that he is defending him against these allegations. I want to know what case -- THE COURT: I understand that, sir. What I am asking you is -- I may have misunderstood. But I got the impression here there is an active, pending litigation or criminal proceeding. And maybe there isn't. What you're talking about is the potential for some claim down the road or some possible criminal action or some sort of possible civil action, but anything pending right now, to your knoWledge? THE WITNESS: I don't know. There was also an adversary proceeding, which I believe also settled where THE COURT: The cl THE WITNESS: Ric But other than that, I don't know. ' MR. LEWD nk you very much, Your Honor. W few more questions. BY MR. " kr Q^ put everything in context, you heard Mr ;j - ddad in his opening statement in response to a ,Itt('I, 1ent I made to the court in our opening atement how is he going to cross-examine Mr. Adler about information that may be adverse to Mr. Epstein and Adler in this case. And you heard him say that, well, I probably wouldn't cross-examine Mr. Adler, Mr. Goldberger would do that. You heard him say that, right? 1 A Yes. 2 3 Q Now, practically, if he's a co-counsel, I guess he's also representing Mr. Epstein, too? 4 A Yes. 5 6 Q And Mr. Haddad is representing Mr. Epstein, too? 7 A Right. 8 9 10 11 12 Q Do you have a concern at all tha Mr. Haddad has got to do is say Mr. Goldberger, why don't you ask him this, don't as communicate things that you serted as privileged in our case th knows from that they can 13 MR. GOLDBERGji udge 14 15 THE COURT; This is not closing argument counsel. Just ask the question. 16 17 I apologize, Judge. I want get oto::::ssue. 18 TEE COURT: Ask your question. 19 20 21 Q Are you concerned about that? And can you please explain to the court what your concern is? 22 23 24 25 A My concern is that any privileged information that Mr. Haddad wants, if we invoke a privilege all he has to do is ask Russ Adler. That's my concern. That's it. MR. : Thank you, Judge. I don't have any other questions for Mr. right now. THE COURT: Cross-examination, sir? MR. HADDAD: Yes, sir. #### CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. HADDAD: Q Mr. Adler is a very close friend of yours, correct? A That's true. Q And Mr. Adler is t ho brought you into RRA, correct? 7 V 14%,, A That's Q And as a truerti; ter of fact, if Mr. Adler were to testify for you, he would be a character witness, would he not? 4.S. , He considers you one of the finest lawyers A!eZ a d, does he not? I would think so. A I believe so. Q He's expressed that to a number of people? A I believe so. Q Do you think that Mr. Adler is going to be a witness adverse to you? 1 Q Answer the question please, sir. 2 THE COURT: Excuse me, sir. 3 If you can answer the question, answer, 4 but you can explain your answer if you can. 5 A I don't know what that question means. 6 Q Mr. , you will concede that 7 Mr. Epstein dropped his lawsuit against you rect? 8 A Yes. 9 Q And the only thing pending noCad your 10 lawsuit against Mr. Epstein, cor 11 A Right. 12 4 Would you conc t Mr. :SI that RRA fell 13 14 apart and the Feds ca rom October to November of 2009? /4S7mv 15 ,I. ) A I believe -so. 16 17 Q Would you agree that the files that were RRA Ne; regarding Epstein were taken at that time? 18 Right, Russ Adler no longer had access. 19 20 A÷ Qrrect? He had no access to Q Task or anything, 21 A I don't know that. 22 23 Q Now, that was before I began to represent him, correct? 24 A I guess so. \: 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 you guys were told this is it? A That's right. I just don't know when you started representing him. Q On November 2nd you sent an email, as a matter of fact, to Mr. -- I can't say his name. Epstein's lawyer at that time, something like that? Cuman (phonetic) A Okay. Q And you asked him in an email Che would agree to reset the deposition becaug ou had no access to files, your office thing else, correct? (:.4 ir A That's tru Q And you sent. an email saying you were very surprised that he said no, correct? A I don't remember which'lawyer this is because it is a whole team of them. I don't doubt that this happened. Q Well, I think you filed a joint motion to continue on the 14th of November, 2009 setting forth that you had no office, no files, no ability to do anything, and therefore you would request that it be continued? A I don't remember doing that, but I don't quarrel with any of that because it is all true. MR. HADDAD: May I show him a certified copy of the motion? ' A I am not disputing it. I haven't seen a copy in years. Q That looks like it? A Filed by Bob Crichton as a joint moti yep. Q Now, did you today get to review aAg;Py of an affidavit by morning by email? Adler that I fileCr) A I saw it. Q And, of course, are of your answer to Interrogatory 3,4 ,yO he second set of interrogatories -- the 'r set of interrogatories to you, correct?"‹ 07 , A Am I aware of my answer to question Number 32? Q Yeah, where I put out there that you said i answer to interrogatory that -- let me read 'Identify Aii!L all attorneys who worked on the client ses against plaintiff-counter defendant Jeffrey Epstein, including, but not limited to the attorneys formerly at RRA, abbreviated, the attorneys of the former Jaffe -- that's your firm, correct? A Correct. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 attorneys. And your answer was: Brad, Paul Cassel (phonetic) -- that's the lawyer in A Correct. Q Matt Weissing, Steve Jaffe and Bill Berger rendered substantive services in the prosecution of the plaintiff Jeffrey Epstein. i" attendance, you said, at multiple depositions,C u was not an active participant, correct?A. A All true. Q Adler did not y participate in your case at all, correct A Other than wha lust described. Q Now, is it n t orrect that none of the Epstein cases settled during the period of time that you were at RRA? A hat is true. !i71d 441Vyou are aware, of course, that Mr. / t IQ Sr tein said in his deposition that you /4'!!ed with Mr. Scarola, that in fact you settled e of them that was part of the Ponzi scheme, correct? A I don't remember that at all. Q There's no question one of the cases settled? 1 2 Q And you were there for a grand total of six months? 3 A At the most. 4 Q Six months at the most. You brought your files with you, you left with your files? 6 A True. 7 Q And you settled them later, correct? 8 A Over a year later. 10 11 12 13 Q Now, whatever work product -- and I don't know what work product you have r m4,t you are talking about, you did have ews with the Daily News, correct; for the re\$ for the Daily News, t s" regarding Jeffrey Epstei 14 A Over the lasEiew years. 15 Q Even at that time, yeah? 16 A I believe so. 17 18 Q You had an interview with a gentleman named ( .1k 19 20 lir) R George Rush? I think Epstein had an interview with sh. 21 22 23 Q Yeah, and then you called the guy back after that and you had a conversation with him, which you filed an affidavit on, right? 24 A Right. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 affidavits to make a determination of why you found it necessary to depose Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Albert -- was it Prince Albert? One of those guys, and all of those individuals, correct? A I didn't -- THE COURT: Where are you going with this? MR. HADDAD: To show that every single thing that he claimed would have k4en privileged, he put out in a -fid,; ts and interviews that he gave press. THE COURT: Tha oing to be a neat trick if you don ow what he spoke to the press about. MR. HADDAD) I'm sorry? THE COURT: Go ahead. S MR. HADDAD: Well, Russ Adler is going IQo testify and I think that will clear that THE COURT: Mr. Adler is not going to talk about attorney-client privilege communication he had with him, is he? MR. HADDAD: He's got an affidavit I can show the court. 1 2 I didn't see the emails. I'm not on your email list. 3 MR. : we did object -- 4 5 6 THE COURT: Just ask the question, okay. I was wondering where you were headed. 7 MR. HADDAD: I'm sorry, yes, sir. 8 BY MR. HADDAD: 0 10 Q You never had a conversation 'th Mr. Adler regarding Epstein until you got t7y, correct? 11 A Correct. 12 13 Q And then when em \<4 \\ re at RRA you advised him of these cases tha u had, correct? 14 15 -\\ A What I advised him of, I believe, would be product privilege, which is the problem here. 16 17 18 Q I_am talking about the existence of the case hich public record, not any inner workings, al ? 19 Okay. 20 21 22 Q Did you not make the statement that Russ Adler learned about the case from the newspapers in your deposition? 23 A I might have. 24 Q You won't dispute that, correct? A S" 1 Q Sir? 2 A I wouldn't dispute it. 3 4 Q Now, you have read Mr. Adler's deposition, correct, in this matter? 5 A At some point in time I did. 6 7 Q You have read my response in opposition to the motion to disqualify me, correct? 8 A Yes. (::E 'r 9 10 11 Q And do you disagree with Mr. r'S assertions that he had nothing t th the file and has no privileged info 12 13 A Which question u asking, that he had nothing to do with the 14 15 16 Q Do you r with his assertions in his Zet deposition that he ad no privileged information or anything that was privileged regarding that case? 17 18 19 A I don't think he said that, so that's the Q l e pr bl m. He invoked the privilege at the deposition w you represented him. 20 21 Q I understand that. He invoked every privilege he could in that deposition? 22 A Right, implying that -- 23 Q My question to you is -- sir? 24 25 A -- implying that he had privileged information, and that's all I'm -- 1 Q I will let it go at that point. 2 Do you have any -- you wouldn't, but okay. 3 4 The claim that now exists is your claim for damages against Mr. Epstein, correct? 5 A Yes. 6 7 Q And that claim for damages is for abtl f process, correct? 8 A That's one of the counts, correc 9 Q And the other is what, defamation? 10 A Malicious prosecution 11 Q Malicious prosecut 12 13 14 Those are sepa e d apart from the claims that you have t the United States of America, correct? 4 1..v 15 ) A Separate claims from that claim? 16 Q Yes. 17 Yes, they are separate claims. 18 19 20 21 c, And you filed -- excuse me, Mr. Epstein's eys filed a lawsuit against you while you were tively prosecuting claims for the victims that you cited were of what occurred, correct? 22 A That's true. 23 24 25 Q And that is where your inner workings were, involving the plaintiffs who have already settled, correct? They have all settled? 1 2 A They have settled. The case against Epstein has settled. 3 4 5 Q That's what I'm saying. The case against Epstein has settled, the case against you by Epstein has settled? 6 7 The case against you by Epstein has settled by his dismissal of the claims against you? 8 A He dismissed the claim, right. 9 10 Q So the only thing that you have against him? remaining is the claim 11 A That's correct. 12 13 Q For malicious p&Q tion and for abuse of process? 14 15 A As well -Ss the Crime Victims Rights Act. That's still ongoing. 16 17 18 Q O., now, you made mention to the Judge of Mr. Adler's defense. Are you aware of anything that Mr. Adler has outstanding where I represent him? 19 A By outstanding -- 20 Q Well, other than -- let me put the caveat. 21 22 23 24 25 I am sure you've read -- he may have an appeal of a 30-day suspension by Judge for a failure to sign an affidavit and a fraudulent mortgage application. But other than that, are you aware of anything against Mr. Adler with whom you are very 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 friendly? AI talk to Russ. Adler frequently. I know generally what he believes is going on with respect to Scott Rothstein's accusations. And I don't know exactly formally where that prosecution or potential prosecution is or if it will ever be. But that the only thing that I know is ongoing that you hA ll loeany role in representing him in. 0 Q Let me ask you this. Based uCl your long-term knowledge and friendsh' t,7t Mr. Adler, is there any doubt in your mind %Id never breach a confidence and share any 'At'n with me? A If he's -- MR. LEWIR:(166tr 1 Honor, how -- THE COURT: Excuse me. Please stop. I /14 thinkzare, asking for credibility. This -character reference. I don't think (^41 has -- , 10,9t! HADDAD: QOkay, I will rephrase it. Do you have any information to remotely suggest that Adler has passed one bit of information to me? AI would believe that Russ Adler will tell you all of the information that would assist you in representing him. And if the allegations against him 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 . 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 are that he was involved in a Ponzi scheme and emails would help to refute that, then I would hope that he would pass that on to you. But I don't know what he's given you, because I'm not involved in your attorney-client relationship. Q Do you have any information that Russ Adler would in any way share any information il h me -- share any information that's privileged with me, if there is any, regarding Jeffrey Epstein and this case? A He shares a privil you. So if it helped in his defense, h and he could and he should. Q I am talki ut the instant case. A It's all related to the same subject matter. Q Do you have any information, even remotely, that Mr. Adler was involved in a Ponzi scheme? 41 No. denied Did you ever hear any -- Mr. Adler has from the first day that he had any knowledge of the Ponzi scheme, correct? A He has. Q And he said the only way he found out about the Ponzi scheme was the same way you did, in the newspaper? 1 A Correct. I have read that. I believe that. 2 MR. HADDAD: I don't have anything 3 else. 4 THE COURT: Any redirect? 5 MR. Just real brief, Judge. 6 7 BY MR. IIIII: 8 9 Q Were you deposed in the case that's pending before Judge Illi? 10 A For hours. Eight hour 11 12 13 14 Q And during the ti ou were deposed, did you have occasion to work product privilege to question/gat r. Epstein's lawyers were asking you? \ k ) :4(tSK Dated this 2 ' t S orday of October, 2012. iS , .i