TERSON lear, you wouldn't do more. s concerned. What did she tell m? call, when she came downstairs tairs, me and her and [redacted], o the car. And I was like, "How e, "Three hundred dollars." And I ew right then she did more. right? was like, "Well, what'd you do?" giving a massage, and then my ow, he put his fingers inside me. : massager." And that's basically I talk to me. It's all right. talking about it, now that I-I m. know what, we all go through at I mean? It's an experience. And : behind you. you brought over-how did you were going to have to do this... rk, how did you approach them? in Palm Beach?" vere my friends. The others were, was a little more easier talking to I knew them. 62 FILTHY RICH RECAREY: Take a deep breath. Take a deep breath. 'Cause I can see you're working up again. You're working up the tears, I can see it, and I don't want to get you like that. DOBBS: I, um, pretty much I just would ask them- RECAREY: Straight up? DOBBS: "If you're looking for extra money, let me know; this guy down in Palm Beach, he's really, really, really wealthy. You have to give him a massage." That's all I would tell them. Then, if they were interested or told me, "Yes, I want to do it," I'd go into detail with them before they'd actually agree. If they told me, "Yeah, that sounds good, I'm interested," then I'd tell them, "Okay, well I'm gonna let you know, this is what you have to do, this is what's gonna go on." RECAREY: Did you tell them that you were going to make money from bringing them over? Or- DOBBS: Most part? I believe they knew....Most of the girls, we were open about that. We didn't-they pretty much knew I was making money under the table. So... RECAREY: Okay. Gimme two seconds. Let me get the soda.... Gimme two seconds. ... All right, I talked to my boss a little bit- FRICK: -Which is why I'm here. DOBBS: Okay. FRICK: Obviously I was listening to what you were saying. And at this point you clearly implicated yourself on a crime, okay? You've taken girls to somebody's house for the purpose of prostitution. More importantly, more significantly, one of those girls was fourteen at the time, okay? Now that's a pretty significant second-degree felony, okay? I'm not going to kid 63 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009212 JAMES PATTERSON you, that is—it's a significant thing, okay? Now, you came in, you cooperated with us. The question we have for you now is, do you want to continue cooperating with us and try and help us make a case against Jeff? DOBBS: I don't think that's really going to help me in the long run, though. I've already admitted to a second-degree felony, right? FRICK: Yeah, you have. DOBBS: Okay, so there you go. What's going to keep me out of trouble? It's not going to keep me out of trouble. I've already admitted committing a crime. FRICK: I'm not going to argue with that.... DOBBS: So basically I just fucked myself. I can go two ways. I can agree not to cooperate, which is going to put me at— well—now you can use the second-degree felony against me. Or you can help and work with it and maybe get myself some slack.... FRICK: We're still talkin' here. What would the odds be of you contacting Jeff at this point? Have you had any contact with him at all? DOBBS: I have not had any contact— FRICK: How about with— DOBBS: No, none of 'em. None of 'em....I had a phone call about four or five months ago, and I told my parents. Look, I swear to you I'm not anywhere—like, no connection with him at all. That's why I pretty much got my number changed. I have not made any communication with him. It stopped. FRICK: Okay. Well, I mean, that's good. That's good that you stopped.... 64 This is what we'd some of your ex- Now, the question working for Jeff, i to Jeff? Or can w you make a call a: know, these guys everything?" Our right? RECAREY: With your FRICK: Let me, let thing, okay? Then leading to the de second-degree fel demeanor....First not going to take y DOBBS: Not today. FRICK: Well, you're— ate and if we can— not—that's not up would do is if we meanor, we'd give in, you know." RECAREY: You sign it FRICK: That's our pr forthright with us, RECAREY: Very truth FRICK: Do you want 1 deal with it, or do TERSON t thing, okay? Now, you came The question we have for you ue cooperating with us and try ist Jeff? y going to help me in the long itted to a second-degree felony, What's going to keep me out of p me out of trouble. I've already ith that.... ed myself. I can go two ways. I which is going to put me atsecond-degree felony against me. ith it and maybe get myself some What would the odds be of you ? Have you had any contact with tactof 'em....I had a phone call about d I told my parents. Look, I swear -like, no connection with him at ch got my number changed. I have ion with him. It stopped. that's good. That's good that you 64 FILTHY RICH This is what we'd like to do: We would like to reach out to some of your ex-friends and [unintelligible] talk to them. Now, the question is, do we think that they are currently still working for Jeff, in which case they would make a phone call to Jeff? Or can we just kinda show up and, you know, have you make a call as we're standing outside and say: "Hey, you know, these guys wanna talk to you, and I've already told 'em everything?" Our goal is to make a better case against Jeff, all right? RECAREY: With your cooperation. FRICK: Let me, let me get back to-past-the cooperation thing, okay? There are lesser charges that can easily be filed: leading to the delinquency of a minor, as compared to a second-degree felony. You know what I mean? That's a misdemeanor....First of all, I'll tell you straight up, okay, we're not going to take you to jail today.... DOBBS: Not today. FRICK: Well, you're-And here's the other thing: If you cooperate and if we can-If you cooperate, whether we pull it off or not-that's not up to you, that's up to us, okay? So what we would do is if we ended up charging you with like a misdemeanor, we'd give you a call, we'd say: "Hey, you gotta come in, you know." RECAREY: You sign it.... FRICK: That's our preference. You come in, you've been very forthright with us, you've been very up front- RECAREY: Very truthful. FRICK: Do you want us to call your parents, or do you want to deal with it, or do you-As far as we're concerned you're an 65 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009214 JAMES PATTERSON adult, okay? You're nineteen. You do what you do. You know, we can drop you off at the end of the block if you'd like. Or we can cushion the blow beyond what-but again, you're helping us at this point. We've been pretty forthright with you on what is going on, our options for your future. And what we'd like you to do obviously is make a couple of calls with us this evening to talk to a couple of your, you know, these other girls. DOBBS: I'm not really on a...Me and my parents really don't get along right now... FRICK: So you'd prefer that- DOBBS: If they found out that I was-If they found out that I was into some other stuff....I'm actually stripping now....So they're not exactly happy with me at the moment, and I don't want to do anything that's going to piss 'em off even furthermore. Michael Reiter: Oc Ch hief Reiter sifts underage girlscured for Epste on El Brillo. An arre caught with a dime ba She'd told Detectiv very much like a rape Soon Reiter will as more footwork to do, his office. Later that day, De arrive at the home of a * Jenny's, Francine's, and dialogue have been cha 66 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009215 TERSON You do what you do. You know, d of the block if you'd like. Or yond what-but again, you're 've been pretty forthright with r options for your future. And iously is make a couple of calls to a couple of your, you know, : and my parents really don't get I was-If they found out that I I'm actually stripping now....So th me at the moment, and I don't t's going to piss 'em off even 66 CHAPTER 15 Michael Reiter: October 3, 2005 Ch hief Reiter sifts through the evidence: information about underage girls-six of them-whom Wendy Dobbs procured for Epstein. Phone numbers pulled from the trash on El Brillo. An arrest report for Alison, the girl who'd been caught with a dime bag of weed. She'd told Detective Recarey about an encounter that sounded very much like a rape. Soon Reiter will ask a judge for a warrant. But not yet. There's more footwork to do, and Reiter calls Detective Joe Recarey into his office. Later that day, Detective Recarey and Sergeant George Frick arrive at the home of a girl named Jenny.* An older woman greets * Jenny's, Francine's, and Kristina's names, some identifying details, and dialogue have been changed. 67 JAMES PATTERSON them at the front door and invites them inside. She introduces them to her husband and daughter. Jenny is sixteen years old. Sitting down at the dining room table, they see that she's nervous. In between biting her lip and fidgeting, she tells them that yes, she's been to Jeffrey Epstein's house. Wendy took her there once. But nothing much happened. She met Epstein's chef and spent some time in the kitchen is all. Then she left. “I get what you're asking,” she says. “But really, I just want to put the whole thing behind me." “Okay,” the officers tell her. “You have our numbers. But Jenny, if you remember anything else, you'll find that we're very good listeners." One down. Five to go. Detective Recarey and Detective Michael Dawson have better luck the next day with Francine, a girl who tells them that a year earlier, Wendy Dobbs—someone she knew from high school— drove her to the house on El Brillo Way. Francine would have been seventeen at the time. Now she's willing to make a sworn statement. The officers noted: She was told she could make money working for Jeff. She was told she would have to provide a massage for Jeff.... She was brought to the kitchen area by [Dobbs]. They met with the house chef who was already in the Kitchen area. Francine stated [Wendy] would wait for her in the kitchen. 68 Just as she did wit Francine upstairs and the room, wearing onl She kept her cloth sometime during th and pulled her clos uncomfortable by tl sion of the massage “Do you have any cers ask. “No,” says Francin But she does have c Sarah's been calling It could mean any r that Epstein's caught w he's doing something responsibility. This tr day, they get one more her parents around she It turns out that Jenny's And, it turns out, kitchen. Without her p talk about it. The first time she'd says, Epstein had tried HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009217 TERSON FILTHY RICH s them inside. She introduces Just as she did with Mary, a woman named Sarah had taken Francine upstairs and into a bedroom. Then Epstein had entered ter. Jenny is sixteen years old. the room, wearing only a towel. table, they see that she's nernd fidgeting, she tells them that house. She kept her clothes on during the massage. She advised sometime during the massage, Epstein grabbed her buttocks and pulled her close to him. Francine said she was [made] uncomfortable by the incident involving Jeff. At the conclusion of the massage she was paid $200.00 for the massage. But nothing much happened. some time in the kitchen is all. "Do you have any formal training in massages?" the officers ask. "No," says Francine. e says. "But really, I just want to But she does have one more thing to tell them. Sarah's been calling Francine's cell phone. It could mean any number of things. The police know already that Epstein's caught wind of their investigation. Now it appears he's doing something about it, or at least he's delegating the responsibility. This troubles the cops. But then, on that same day, they get one more break: Jenny calls and says that without her parents around she's willing to make a sworn statement. ve Michael Dawson have better :, a girl who tells them that a year ne she knew from high schoolillo Way. seventeen at the time. : a sworn statement. The officers It turns out that Jenny's visited with Epstein several times. And, it turns out, she'd done much more than sit in the kitchen. Without her parents around, she's much more willing to talk about it. money working for Jeff. She was de a massage for Jeff....She was by [Dobbs]. They met with the y in the Kitchen area. Francine for her in the kitchen. The first time she'd gone to the house on El Brillo Way, she says, Epstein had tried to take off her shirt. She'd become upset, 68 69 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009218 JAMES PATTERSON and this had led to a fight—a “verbal disagreement”—with Epstein. She’d left without getting paid. Gone down to the kitchen and told Wendy, “Let’s go!” “If you’re uncomfortable,” Wendy had told her, “tell him to stop, and he will.” On the other hand, Wendy had also told her, “The more you do, the more you get paid.” A few weeks later, she agreed to return to the house on El Brillo. Once again Sarah had taken Jenny upstairs and into the master bedroom. Sarah had set up the massage table, laid out the oils that Jenny would use. Then Epstein had entered the room wearing only a towel. Jenny had been wearing tight jeans. She had a tight belt on. She kept the jeans on, though Epstein still made a grab for her buttocks. Then he rolled onto his back and grabbed for her breasts. Jenny became upset yet again. But this time, she was paid two hundred dollars before leaving. She never did go back to the house. But, like Francine, she has one more thing to tell the detectives. Another girl from her high school had been there on the day of her second visit with Epstein. Kristina. And later, Kristina told Jenny that she also had “a problem” with Epstein. Girls seemed to be turning up all the time. And the detectives were just getting started. One girl leads Chief Reiter’s team to another. And every time, they hear the same story. The girls are approached by Wendy 70 Dobbs. They drive ove the kitchen—maybe sc they’re walked upstair towel. Sometimes with mend their friends, anc None of the girls cc been trained as a mass become a licensed mass eighteen years old, at or GED. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009219 ERSON “verbal disagreement”—with d. Gone down to the kitchen endy had told her, “tell him to ad also told her, “The more you d to return to the house on El enny upstairs and into the mas- e massage table, laid out the oils e room wearing only a towel. it jeans. She had a tight belt on. epstein still made a grab for her his back and grabbed for her et again. But this time, she was e leaving. She never did go back e, she has one more thing to tell school had been there on the day ein. Kristina. And later, Kristina problem” with Epstein. g up all the time. And the detecteam to another. And every time, e girls are approached by Wendy 70 FILTHY RICH Dobbs. They drive over to Epstein’s house. After a short wait in the kitchen—maybe some milk and cereal, if they feel hungry— they’re walked upstairs. Epstein’s there, waiting, wearing his towel. Sometimes with a vibrator. Sometimes the girls recommend their friends, and for this they receive a commission. None of the girls comes from money. And none of them has been trained as a masseuse. Then again, how could they be? To become a licensed massage apprentice in Florida, you need to be eighteen years old, at least, and have a high school diploma or GED. 71 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_009220