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gs progressed?
ke off my panties at first. And
en he got me to let him rub me.
k his fingers in me. Then he got
ie. Then, um-that was pretty
one time, where he bent me over
. Without my permission. And I
ask you, but I don't count that as
'Cause I just told you that I never
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n-I go, "What are you doing?"
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hen you were completely naked,
ou went in, you massaged him?
hat. Sometimes he just asked me
-he'd have to do work, he'd be
ing, and I'd just be naked there,
ing a book, but I'd be naked. Or,
o just watch TV or read, and he'd
take my clothes off and lay with
h him or anything....Sometimes
: breakfast, for dinner, or just to
d I'd get paid for that, too. I'd get
him. That's it. And if the money
re ever been in that house.
ouch yousay anything else. Um, is there a
have to go to court or anything?
ght?
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D: Well, here's the thing: When this is all said and done, we're
going to sit down, we're going to discuss this. I mean, what
he did to you is a crime. I'm not gonna lie to you.
V: Would you consider it rape? Like, would you consider that to
be rape, what he did?
D: If he put himself inside you, without permission-
V: I didn't say that, or anything. I was standing up and the table
is about, like, my hip length-he just put me down-
D: That, that is a crime. That is a crime.
V: I don't want my family to find out about this. My family
doesn't know any of this. My mom thinks I was his secretary,
for two years, or however long-a year and a half. My mom
thinks I made phone calls for him and that's how I was making my [unintelligible] money. That's it. I don't want her to
know anything.
D: Well, you're an adult. You're an adult now....When we're
done with this interview, we'll discuss this further and we'll
decide the best course.
V: 'Cause Jeffrey's gonna get me. You guys realize that, right?
He's gonna find-he's gonna figure this out. And he's gonna-
I'm not safe now. You understand that, right? I'm not safe.
D: He is not this person that he is portraying himself to be-
V: Well-
D: Why do you say you're not safe? Has he said he's hurt people
before?
V: Well, I've heard him make threats to people on the telephone,
yeah. Of course.
D: You're gonna die? You're gonna break your legs? Or-
V: All the above! But that's not the point.
D: Who's he talking to?
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V: I don't know. I don't know, I heard those conversations, I
mean, I've been in the room when he was on the phone and
[unintelligible] threatened. Like, I witnessed lots of things. I
just don't know what, specifically, you all [want to know].
D: Everything.
V: I used to go there every day, like I w-I don't, I don't know
how many other girls he was saying, "You're my favorite, and
I want you to live with me" to, but I was in about as deep as
you can get.
D: He had quite a few girls he would say that to.
D: Do you have any formal massage training?
V: [Giggles.] Hell, no.
D: All right, I was just asking.
V: He would kiss me and stuff, too. I remember that. And when
he kissed me, if he was jerking off he would, like, rub himself on my breasts. And I... I was extremely uncomfortable. I
would maneuver myself away from that activity. I'd get up
and I'd move somewhere else, or I'd-I don't even remember.
I would stop whatever was going on without saying, "Can
you get the fuck off me?" I would stop it without saying stuff
like that.
D: Okay.
V: I wouldn't let him put anything in me until one day he did
just out of nowhere. And I said, "Wait a second: my boyfriend,
you know, we had this thing, you can't do that. You know,
I'm-I'm allowed to work here as long as you don't do that."
And he said "okay." Well, a couple months later I guess he
assumed me and my
it one day; he just did
I said, "What are yo
cool," and he goes, "C
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why don't I just give y
out?" And I was like
no to. I don't know if:
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out of your mouth, i
going to say. Like, tl
money is knowing wh
ple are gonna do.
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heard those conversations, I
when he was on the phone and
ke, I witnessed lots of things. I
ally, you all [want to know].
like I w-I don't, I don't know
saying, "You're my favorite, and
o, but I was in about as deep as
ould say that to.
sage training?
too. I remember that. And when
ting off he would, like, rub him-
I was extremely uncomfortable. I
vay from that activity. I'd get up
se, or I'd-I don't even remember.
s going on without saying, "Can
would stop it without saying stuff
thing in me until one day he did
said, "Wait a second: my boyfriend,
ting, you can't do that. You know,
here as long as you don't do that.", a couple months later I guess he
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assumed me and my boyfriend had broken up, and he just did
it one day; he just did it without asking or anything. And then
I said, "What are you doing?" I said, "You know that's not
cool," and he goes, "Oh, I thought we did that last time." And
I said, "No, we did not do that last time." And then he goesuh, and then he just offered me more money. He's like, "Well,
why don't I just give you something extra, and we can try this
out?" And I was like [sigh, "All right." Very hard guy to say
no to. I don't know if any of you guys ever talked to him....
Oh, yeah. Well, if you talk to him, I mean, he straight up
tries to control the situation. Every-every word that comes
out of your mouth, it seems like, he knows what you are
going to say. Like, that's his job; that's how he made his
money is knowing what people are gonna say and what people are gonna do.
D: What did he tell you he does for a living?
V: Well, there's a couple of things. Things that I found for
myself, things I looked up on the Internet. What he specifically told me when I asked him the first time was, "Oh, I'm a
brain scientist." And I said, "What the fuck is a brain scientist?" I was like, "That's not a real job-tell me the truth."
But anyway... his explanation was, "It's my job to know how
people's brains work." And I said, "Whatever the fuck that
means. Whatever. You're like some old guy who [unintelligible...]" You know what he promised me? Here's the reason I
held on so long is, he promised me that I would get into NYU.
That I would get into NYU and he would pay for it. And I
waited, and I waited, and I scored great on my SATs, I would
get 4.0-like, I did great in school. I filled out my application
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and he told me that it wasn't good enough. So I filled it out
again, and it was like three times. So I'm pretty sure he wasn't
checking into it, he was just telling me that he was. But I
think that had a lot to do with the reason I stayed there so
long, 'cause my dream was right in front of me, you know?
And it's so far....
D: Aside from having been with [redacted], was there anybody
else that you brought to the house?
V: I brought a few people.... Because it got out that I did this.
Like, everyone at school knew. You know, everyone talks
D: It was a circle, and-
V: It was a little circle, yeah....Not that I would want anybody
to get involved....I brought girls I didn't like and, frankly,
did not give a shit about. Girls that I knew were skanks. That
would do anything. Girls that would just, like, suck dick in
the bathroom at school. Like, not even people I was friends
with. I'd just hear a rumor about a girl and be like, "Hey, I
know a way you can make two hundred dollars. How
about..." I would tell them flat out, like, "This is what you've
got to do. Are you cool with this? 'Cause I'm not gonna take
you if you're not." So I told them. They all know that I got
paid to bring them. It was actually [redacted]. She took off
her shirt. She was a little overweight, so he didn't want anything to do [with her]. She was my best friend. But, you
know, she was another story. I did care about her. But, um,
she lost her house and stuff and really needed money. She
had-she was homeless, she had nowhere to go. So she did it
out of desperation.
D: Did he ever hurt you?
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V: Sometimes he got vic
D: Violent as in what? A
V: He pulled my hair
pulled. Like, he-o
you're all, like, notmean, like, if you're
like, my ponytailswould pull it to wher
my hair, and then so
throw me whichever
just like use a toy or
penis, though, ever. I
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good enough. So I filled it out
es. So I'm pretty sure he wasn't
telling me that he was. But I
h the reason I stayed there so
ght in front of me, you know?
[redacted], was there anybody
ouse?
cause it got out that I did this.
. You know, everyone talks-
Not that I would want anybody
girls I didn't like and, frankly,
s that I knew were skanks. That
at would just, like, suck dick in
e, not even people I was friends
about a girl and be like, "Hey, I
ke two hundred dollars. How
lat out, like, "This is what you've
this? 'Cause I'm not gonna take
them. They all know that I got
actually [redacted]. She took off
verweight, so he didn't want any-
e was my best friend. But, you
ry. I did care about her. But, um,
ff and really needed money. She
e had nowhere to go. So she did it
V: Sometimes he got violent, yeah.
D: Violent as in what? As in-
V: He pulled my hair a lot harder than it should have been
pulled. Like, he-okay, I can understand having sex, and
you're all, like, not-not that we were having sex, but I
mean, like, if you're all into it and you pull hair a little bit,
like, my ponytails-just like a little bit, whatever. But he
would pull it to where it would rip my hair out. It would rip
my hair, and then sometimes he would pick me up and, like,
throw me whichever way he wanted me, and then he would
just like use a toy or, like, his hand or whatever. Never his
penis, though, ever. I never had sex with him. But um-I'm
little, so he could pick me up. Like, if you pick me up and
throw, obviously it's gonna hurt....
...
I mean, there's been nights that I walked out of there barely
able to walk, um, from him being so rough. But nothing
really-nothing specific that he really got violent with. Like,
I can't really recall.
...
Nothing that I went to the doctor for, no. I mean, I remember
getting tore up a few times, but it was nothing that-
D: This is getting real personal, but were you active before him?
V: What, like, had I had sex? Yeah [laughs].
D: Okay.
V: Um. But honest, I mean, I'm not-I'm not a ho. I've had only
three steady boyfriends, and those are the only three that I've
ever done anything with. And they were all with me for over
a year. So it's not like I just go and hook up at parties.
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