SWORN STATEMENT DIGITALLY RECORDED OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL APRIL 7, 2022 RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES 28632 Roadside Drive, Suite 285 Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Phone: (818) 431-5800 EFTA00142251 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142252 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 3 Federal Bureau of Prisons employee, is being conducted as part of an official U.S. Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General investigation. Today’s date is April 7, 2022. The time is 10:22 a.m. This interview is being conducted at the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General, New York Field Office. Also present are DOJ/OIG Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge, and via phone is DOJ/OIG Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge, This interview will be recorded by me, Special Agent . Could everyone please identify themselves for the record and spell your last name. To start again, I am EFTA00142253 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142254 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 5 being asked to provide information as part of an investigation being conducted by the OIG. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978, as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure and security failure. This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do not have to answer any questions. No disciplinary action will be taken against you if you choose not to answer any questions. Any statement you furnish may be used as evidence in any future criminal proceedings or agency disciplinary proceedings or both.” The waiver states, “I understand the warnings and assurances stated above and I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. No promises or threats have been made to me and no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me.” This is the same form we’ve provided you before. MR. . : Please review it. If you understand, on the right side, please print your name and sign your name. If you understand and agree -- EFTA00142255 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142256 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142257 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142258 EFTA00142259 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142260 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142261 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 12 EFTA00142262 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 13 EFTA00142263 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 14 EFTA00142264 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 15 EFTA00142265 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142266 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 17 EFTA00142267 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 18 EFTA00142268 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 19 EFTA00142269 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 20 EFTA00142270 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142271 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 22 EFTA00142272 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142273 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142274 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 25 EFTA00142275 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 26 EFTA00142276 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 27 EFTA00142277 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 28 EFTA00142278 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142279 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142280 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142281 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 32 EFTA00142282 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 33 EFTA00142283 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 34 EFTA00142284 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142285 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142286 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 37 EFTA00142287 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 38 EFTA00142288 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 39 EFTA00142289 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 40 EFTA00142290 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142291 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142292 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 43 EFTA00142293 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142294 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 45 EFTA00142295 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 46 EFTA00142296 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 47 EFTA00142297 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 48 EFTA00142298 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 49 EFTA00142299 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142300 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142301 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 52 EFTA00142302 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 53 EFTA00142303 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 54 EFTA00142304 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 55 EFTA00142305 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 56 EFTA00142306 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142307 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142308 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 59 EFTA00142309 60 EFTA00142310 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 61 EFTA00142311 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142312 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142313 EFTA00142314 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142315 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 66 EFTA00142316 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 67 maybe one housing unit was totally piped in and maybe ready to go, but even then, it wasn’t ready to go because you still needed a fiber upgrade. We could have put it on single mode, but it would have had issues. It wasn’t -. And then, we still didn’t even have CAT-5. There was a lost of stuff we just didn’t have to finish the upgrade. MR. . : Okay. So, after Mr. Epstein's death, did they bring in more employees? MR. . : Yes, they brought a lot of TDY help, and that's when a lot of stuff happened. MR. . : And once they brought in all the employees, how long did it take to actually put the - forget about the cameras - how long did it take to put the wiring in? MR. . : After Epstein’s death – so they were closing down the prison in August of, well, we found out August-September. I was still working, like, two or three times a week on overtime installing conduit, and running wires, and installing cameras. And even with all that said, there was still - I remember I EFTA00142317 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 68 EFTA00142318 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142319 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142320 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 71 one camera we had on the unit, that wasn't going to solve everything. EFTA00142321 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142322 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 73 EFTA00142323 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142324 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 75 EFTA00142325 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 76 EFTA00142326 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142327 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142328 EFTA00142329 EFTA00142330 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142331 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142332 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142333 EFTA00142334 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 85 EFTA00142335 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142336 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00142337 EFTA00142338 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 89 EFTA00142339 EFTA00142340 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 91 MR. . : Yes, because that was the Evidence Room. And like I stated before, I was told numerous times that we should have our own key or get your stuff out of the Recorder Room. MR. : Okay. MR. : And that’s how it is at most institutions. Just the Recorder Room. Nobody else but the Com Techs have that key or should. MDC Brooklyn, I have the same problem now because that room is – I don’t mean to be talking off - but they use that room for other stuff, so now you have people that do have the key. These two institutions are rare because when I worked in Terre Haute, only the Com Techs had the key to go in the Recorder Room. Nobody else should have the key. These two institutions for space or whatever, they use an excuse and other people have the key to go in the room and nobody should have the key but the Com Techs. MR. : Okay. So, prior to August 10th, 2019, you did not have a key to that -- MR. . No. We talked about it before -- MR. : -- Recorder Room? 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