DIGITALLY RECORDED SWORN STATEMENT OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SEPTEMBER 23, 2021 RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES 28632 Roadside Drive, Suite 285 Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Phone: EFTA00126954 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE APPEARANCES: OTHER APPEARANCES: NONE EFTA00126955 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 3 EFTA00126956 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126957 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 5 conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978, as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure, and security failure. This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do not have to answer questions. No disciplinary action will be taken against you if you choose not to answer questions. Any statement you furnish may be used as evidence in any future criminal proceedings, or agency disciplinary proceedings, or both.” The waiver states, "I understand the Warnings and Assurances stated above and I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. No promises or threats have been made to me, and no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me.” Please read the form, and if you understand -- MS. : Okay. MR. : -- can you please sign where it says employee name, signature? MR. : Need a pen? MS. : Thank you. MR. : Move that out of the way. EFTA00126958 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126959 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126960 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126961 EFTA00126962 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126963 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126964 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 12 I came to work, I spoke to the staff team, as well as his cellmate, to try to get both of their sides of the story. MS. : I spoke to Epstein in the R&D area. He was a little hesitant, at first, about speaking to me. He kept asking me who was I? You know, what was I interviewing him for? And I explained to him my position as the SIS Lieutenant, to ensure his safety needs are met, and, you know, I questioned him about whose the alleged suicide attempt, and he said, I don’t remember what happened. I remember him telling me he went to get a drink of water, and all he remembered is he was on the floor. And the staff will come in and he wouldn’t provide much of anything else. I did question him about Mr. Tartaglione. You know, did you guys have any words with each other? You know, we were just cellmates at the time. You know, when you went to get the drink of water, and he would -. Either he say he was laying on the floor, or sitting on the bed. EFTA00126965 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 13 You know? I asked him, you know, are you telling me the truth? Is there anything that you would like to volunteer? You know, did you intentionally try to harm yourself? And at times, like, I didn't try to harm myself. I don't know what happened. I just got a drink of water, and next thing you know, I was on the floor. EFTA00126966 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 14 EFTA00126967 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 15 EFTA00126968 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 16 MS. : I don’t know if it was, you know, looking back, I kind of felt, like, okay, was this, like, did he intentionally try to do something to get our attention? You know, then I leaned to, maybe he didn't. You know? You have two inmates in the cell. And I'm, you know, I'm also looking at did, you know, did Tartaglione is telling me the truth. You know, I really can't say what happened because you have, you know, Mr. Epstein saying, you know, no, he didn't try to do anything to me, and I asked about them interacting. Do they talk? And he’s, like, yes, we talk. You know, we’re cellmates. We talk. We read books. He, you know? So, it wasn’t no reason for me to believe that Mr. Tartaglione, you know, tried to harm him because Epstein didn't give me that impression. MR. : And was he placed on EFTA00126969 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126970 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126971 EFTA00126972 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126973 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 21 EFTA00126974 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126975 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 23 EFTA00126976 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126977 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126978 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126979 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 27 EFTA00126980 EFTA00126981 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126982 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126983 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126984 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 32 EFTA00126985 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126986 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126987 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 35 EFTA00126988 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 36 EFTA00126989 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 37 EFTA00126990 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 38 EFTA00126991 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126992 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126993 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126994 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126995 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126996 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00126997 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 45 EFTA00126998 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 46 EFTA00126999 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127000 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 48 | EFTA00127001 | | :--- | :--- | This is a simple Markdown document with no headings or paragraphs. It contains just one line of text. LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 49 EFTA00127002 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127003 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 51 EFTA00127004 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 52 EFTA00127005 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 53 EFTA00127006 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 54 EFTA00127007 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 55 EFTA00127008 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127009 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 57 EFTA00127010 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 58 EFTA00127011 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127012 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127013 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127014 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 62 EFTA00127015 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 63 EFTA00127016 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127017 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 65 MR. : But this time, our understanding is the round sheets were actually kept on the officer’s desks. On the desk out . So, not on the range. They all did it right from where the desk was. Do you know if that’s the case? MR. : Okay. Do you know if there is maybe MCC didn't have this practice, but do you know, as the BOP, as a lieutenant round that's conducted in the SHU, and that the lieutenant that actually signs the round sheet, saying that they conducted the round in the SHU, do you know if BOP policy says that they're supposed to go from cell, door to door, and that's the reason why they put these sheets at the end of the ranges? EFTA00127018 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 66 EFTA00127019 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 67 EFTA00127020 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 68 MS. : I actually was reviewing the cameras from the SIS office, with one of the associate wardens. We were looking for an inmate, to see what time he was released, a cadre (Phonetic Sp. *00:50:30) inmate. We were looking to see what time he was released because I was trying to backtrack, because I was going to interview the inmate, with an OIG officer, about an incident. And I learned, he’s gone. And I said, gone where? Oh, his release date - which, he was scheduled to be released - so, that made me go back to look to see, well, let me see what time they released him. And we were trying to pinpoint when he got released, so we could get in touch with that halfway house. So, we - myself and the agent - was going to go to the halfway house, to interview him. And upon me going back to the cameras, I said, wait a minute, we don't have no cameras. I can't go back. So, of course, I clicked on EFTA00127021 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 69 several cameras, just to see if I could play it back on the cameras, and I noticed the cameras are down. I can't go back and rewind anything. At that time, I called the communications shop, and told them, I don't have no cameras up here. You know, I can't go. I can't play it back. A gentleman came upstairs and said, okay, I'm going to come and check the camera system, which he has the keys for, as well. And he did check it out, and he said, okay, the cameras is not working. I'm going to fix them. I'm going to do overtime or something to that effect. To fix the cameras. At that time, I notified the captain. EFTA00127022 EFTA00127023 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 71 EFTA00127024 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 72 EFTA00127025 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 73 EFTA00127026 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 74 EFTA00127027 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127028 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00127029 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 77 EFTA00127030 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 78 MS. : I remember stepping to his office, which was right next door to mine, and notifying him that the cameras was down, that I'm trying to go back and look at the footage, and I can't. Actually, I had one of the associate wardens with me, as well. Who happens to be his supervisor, so. 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1know the 10th was the missing count slip. One of them went missing or something to that effect, that, you know, OIG kept calling me,and I'm, like, I'm looking for them, I'm going through everything, I'm going through, you know, we were trying to find. It was something missing. I can't remember the timeframe, but it definitely was something missing, at the time.
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