EFTA00115849 EFTA00115850 EFTA00115851 EFTA00115852 EFTA00115853 EFTA00115854 EFTA00115855 EFTA00115856 EFTA00115857 EFTA00115858 EFTA00115859 and then, the OIC thing has to have a signature, but because nobody else has the access to it, that portion will fall on me because the paperwork still has to get done anyway. MR. : Right. So, you were the one on your shift that had access to the actual computer systems -- MR. : Right. MR. : -- and the databases. MR. : Mm-hmm. MR. : Okay. MR. : Yeah, because they don’t. So, I’m, like -- MR. : Sure. MR. : -- handle this paperwork. The physical paperwork. I’ll take care of the computerized. MR. : Okay. MR. : “___ informed that, before he left, he conducted a round and spoke to Epstein, and asked, ‘Are you good?’, to which Epstein gave a thumbs up response.” MR. : Yes. MR. : When you say conducted a
MR.: I do remember seeing that.
Where it was actually posted or whatever, I don't know.
MR.: I think it was on one of the computers.
MR.: Yeah. I do remember seeing that. Yeah.
MR.: So, I'm assuming that's also part of the reason why you checked on Epstein. Correct?
MR.: Mm-hmm.
MR.: Because he was the SHU priority?
MR.: Yeah.
MR.: Yeah. And then, you were just reinforcing two of the people when you left, “Make sure you got him”?
MR.: Mm-hmm.
MR.: Okay.
MR.: And then, I looked at the guy, and then, you, you know, he just had a look on his face. I'm, like, and then, that-. And I'm, like, yeah. I stopped.
MR.: So, you actually thought something might be up?
EFTA00115860 EFTA00115861 EFTA00115862 EFTA00115863 EFTA00115864 MR. : Because again -- MR. : But -- MR. : -- we have -. Like, our investigation has showed that that was all pre-filled out. MR. : So, yeah. And that -. Wait a minute. MR. : And I don't know why she would pre-fill out some of them, but not the rest. MR. : I see. I see why. Yeah. MR. : Explain. MR. : Yeah. Because of the times. 01:02, 33:34. 03 to 04. And then, then you flip the page, it's the same thing. It's just a minute difference. I see why. MR. : So, now that you're looking at it, do you believe that those are accurate? MR. : This stuff. It's pre-filled. MR. : It's pre-filled? These are pre-filled? MR. : That - and yeah - it's a good possibility that's pre-filled. MR. : And what do you know MR. : At the time, usually, I stopped messing with this after my first incident, and dealing with this round sheet. So, if I do a round, I fill it out. If I wasn't the one that did it, I don't sign it. MR. : Yeah, yeah. So, what I'm talking about, from August, basically 10th, from the time he was found, previous to that, would you pre-populate round sheets? MR. : No, I didn't pre-populate. MR. : Okay. MR. : Because I learned something before that time, to -- MR. : Oh, what did you learn before? MR. : Because that was a problem, with people doing that before, and nobody wanting to sign round sheets, for what reason or whatever. So, I was, like, okay, if I did it, sign it; if I didn't do it, not sign it. That's how I learned my lesson. That's why my name is not on this. MR. : Okay. So, your name wasn't specifically on that round sheet because you're, like, I'm not signing it, and getting jammed up for it? MR. : If I'm not getting jammed up, if I did it, I sign it; if I didn't do it, and you did it, because I won't sign for anybody else. MR. : I gotcha. So, she was signing for everybody else, but you wouldn't sign for everybody else. MR. : Yeah. I didn't even -. I didn't touch this paper at all that night. MR. : Okay. But previous to that, would you have touched the papers? MR. : Previous to that, I probably would have done rounds. But I wouldn't have pre-populated the whole thing, like that. MR. : Would you ever pre-populate any part of it? MR. : No. I don't think I pre-populate. I don't remember a time that I did pre-populate a thing or whatever. Now, what I will say, because I know it's common or whatever, in the beginning, I probably had something pre-prepped for the count, and that messed up or whatever. MR. : So, you would pre-prep EFTA00115865 EFTA00115866 EFTA00115867 EFTA00115868 EFTA00115869 EFTA00115870 EFTA00115871 EFTA00115872
1was required to have a cell mate?
2MR. Required. I don't know if they knew that he was required to have a cell mate. That, I don't know.
3MR. But everybody that comes off-. He was in suicide watch, previously.
4Correct?
5MR. Right.
6MR. And every inmate that comes off of suicide watch --
7MR. Suicide watch. Should have a cell mate.
8MR. So, based upon that, they knew he was required to have a cell mate.
9Correct?
10MR. Yeah, based off of that, they would know.
11MR. Okay. And was that a discussion that you had with anyone in there, that day, about, hey, where is his cell mate?
12MR. I think we did ask that question amongst ourselves, too, like, this dude is supposed to have a cell mate. I think we did.
13MR. Is this before or after?
MR. : Yeah. So, that's definitely the discussion that-. That would have happened after I took him out of the shower and put him in his cell, and realized there was no cell mate in there. That would have been the discussion afterwards. MR. : And you do remember talking with both and , saying he doesn't have a cell mate? MR. : Yup. Briefly, though. There wasn't, like, a long, drawn-out-. MR. : Sure. Do you remember what their responses were? MR. : I think it was just something, like, yeah, we're just telling each other what's going on. And continue business. MR. : Was there anything talked about, like, where is he? MR. : Yeah, and that's when we found out, like, this guy must be released or whatever. So, there was a conversation about that. But who actually said, oh, this dude got released, or whatever, I don't remember. MR. : Okay. MR. : Everything was moving so fast. After -- MR. : Shower? MR. : -- yeah, after the shower. That this conversation between you, -- MR. : This was after the shower. MR. : -- took place. MR. : Well, after the shower is when you called, but what you're saying is that, at - or are you saying that, after the shower, after the phone call -- MR. : Right. MR. : -- so, not after the shower, but after the phone call in the shower, is that when you had the conversation with and ? MR. : Yeah. MR. : So, you think at that point -- MR. : Because that's when I, like, oh, shit, the dude ain't got no cell mate. MR. : And you would have -- MR. : Sorry. Excuse my language. MR. : -- and you would have conversed, saying, like, hey, he doesn't have a cell mate right now? And it was so long ago now. MR. : Was there any conversation about, like, hey, we need to notify somebody to get him a cell mate? MR. : Probably was, but I know I made a phone call to someone, like, hey, what do you want me to do with this guy? He ain't got no cellee. I know I made a phone call to someone. Who it was, at this point, I don't remember. MR. : And that - MR. : I wish they would have asked me that question earlier because I probably would have remembered then. MR. : Right. So, and that's, like, under oath, this is, like, if you were on the stand, literally in front of a judge -- MR. : Mm-hmm. MR. : -- you swear under oath that you made a phone call and notified someone? MR. : I notified someone. Who it was, I don't know. MR. : Okay. So, if we checked the, like, the lines and the recordings, we'll EFTA00115873 EFTA00115874 EFTA00115875 reason why we’re reading this to you is to, one) make sure that you -- MR. : That it’s accurate. MR. : -- it’s accurate, but also to refresh your memory. This is what you stated to these people, is that accurate, and - again - to fill in some of these blanks. Now, we have a memo that was drafted on August 12th, 2019. Let’s see if it was - it says United States government, Federal Bureau of Prisons memo. And it says, past information from Special Housing Unit. It says, “On Friday, August 9th, 2019, at approximately 1:50 p.m., I, SOS , passed on to oncoming staff member, Officer , and present staff, SOS and Officer , that inmate Reyes was going WAB, and possibly may return, also that inmate Epstein will be needing a cell mate upon arrival from his attorney visit.” Do you know if -? MR. : I don’t remember having that conversation with . MR. : Do you remember that that conversation had, or do you believe that he’s lying to us? If he swore under oath that he EFTA00115876 EFTA00115877 MR. Yes. Because if - like, all right, after all the stuff that we’ve seen here - if I was to, like, let’s just say I was to put somebody in that cell, and something happened. Now I made the wrong decision, and then, the next question is going to be, well, why didn’t you ask questions? MR. Mm-hmm. MR. So, I would not put somebody in there without somebody giving me the green light to do so. MR. Now, if - was the OIC back then? MR. I think so. MR. All right. So -- MR. For the day shift. MR. -- so, is the OIC. If him, the activities lieutenant, and the ops lieutenant, all for that day shift are saying, well, we didn't know if Reyes was going to come back or not, so we thought it was premature to place a new cell mate in there with him. Is that a legit excuse, do you think, or a reason, if the person is listed with WAB next to their name?
1going. And then, you know, you just keep going or whatever. So, like, it should have dawned on me then, but I'm thinking about this guy over here, that may have, you know, that had the noose around him, and he wants to play that game. And then, you got another inmate on another tier, doing some other crazy nonsense. There was just a lot of moving pieces that day. So, even in my movement around or whatever, like, it missed - it escaped it - it missed me.
11MR. Yes. And that was what I was going to go to, after that, is the fact that, would this have been the only - this mandatory rounds must be conducted every 30 minutes on Epstein, as per God - would that have been the only orange card that was up there? Saying to make sure that Epstein is your priority in the SHU right now?
19MR. It shouldn't have been. Like, I don't remember if there was anything on his door, or anything like that, or whatever. But I remember that. That, you know, that was per God, obviously, that's a joke.
4MR. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
5MR. But I do remember, it was
EFTA00115878 EFTA00115879 EFTA00115880 EFTA00115881 EFTA00115882 EFTA00115883 EFTA00115884 for -- MR. : Mm-hmm. MR. : -- how many round sheets have you done? (Indiscernible *01:32:58) that it was pre-filled? MR. : Pre-filled? MR. : Yeah. MR. : I don’t recall doing any pre-filled round sheets on my career. Because it was a situation -. Well, that’s another story, so I’m not even going to get into that. MR. : Okay. MR. : Yeah, but -. MR. : You’ve never, on the round sheets. MR. : Hmm-mm. MR. : How many count sheets have you? MR. : Now, the count sheets, on the other hand, if, you know, you’re in a hurry, you fill it out -- MR. : Mm-hmm. MR. : -- you execute it. And then, you put it out. Because you’re just, like, you don’t want to waste time just doing paperwork. MR. No. But they were all -. I do recall an incident where, I guess there was a bad count. No. There was two good counts. It was two good counts, and then, they figured out it was a bad count the next shift or whatever. So, basically, what people were doing, they would look in on the computer to see what the number was, fill out the paper, and send it down. I remember that happening a while back. MR. They looked on the computer for the number? MR. Yeah. MR. How do you look -- MR. Like -- MR. -- on the computer? MR. -- they, I guess, like, you know, somebody must have had work control, and had E1 access, and just looked up the number -- MR. Mm-hmm. MR. -- of what control would have on the E1, then filled it out, and then said, here you go. And turned it in. And that went on for some time or whatever. So -. MR. When was this? EFTA00115885 EFTA00115886 EFTA00115887 EFTA00115888 EFTA00115889 EFTA00115890 EFTA00115891 EFTA00115892 EFTA00115893 CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General in the matter of: Interview of Brianna Rose Burton, Transcriber EFTA00115894