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1the rent is going up. Everything is going up.
2So, this job is really just another job. It's not a career anymore. It's a job. You pay -.
3It's a job. So, a lot of the men and women, they come, they see the headaches that we go through. And they look at their paycheck, and then, they look at the headaches that they go through at home. Because when you get your mandated every Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, at first, your wife or your husband believes it's good. The money is coming in. But after a couple of months, your wife or your husband will start believing that you are cheating. Because, like, this, you know, we're law enforcement. All law enforcement cheat, right? What people believe.
17So, a lot of individuals that I talk to, they said they're not losing their wife, so they quit. Or they moved on. Found another job for the headache. So, we always going to lose staff because the headache don't outweigh the reward.
110 to grab the item, I called the door and called for a lieutenant. Once I was able to enter the visiting room, I gave inmate Fernandez a direct order to walk -”. Gave him an out of -. “To walk out of the visiting room, to conduct a visual search. Inmate Fernandez compiled,” Oh, “Complied, and a visual search was conducted. The Operations Lieutenant was contacted, and inmate Fernandez was removed from the unit.” So, with this knowledge, when should have he been keyed out of the SHU? He should have been - right now, since he's in SHU - they probably believed that he was coming back to SHU. Because where is they going to put him at? You know -- Yeah. -- it says, Seven North. So, basically, he's going to go to SHU soon. So, they probably took him downstairs. It says (Indiscernible *01:31:18). It says, the unit says Seven North, and you said he was -- Yeah. -- Nine South visitation room. Oh, okay, okay. Now, I see it. Where is that? Yeah. So, Nine South probably means that he That’s a shame to hear. Well, speaking of, so that we can lock down this Fernandez thing, just to leave, this is - I was just explaining it to you - but this is actually -. So, here, for instance, is the actual report. It’s from . He was the OIC SHU, the SHU OIC at the time. And it says that the incident occurred on 8/9/2019, at 1:40 p.m. “On August 9th, 2019, at approximately 1:40 p.m., I, SOS , while assigned as the Special Housing Unit officer, proceeded to enter the Nine South visiting room, as I walked towards the door, I observed, through the visiting room door, inmate Fernandez attempting to garb an unknown item from his visitor. Once I made Fernandez reach keeps coming back to SHU. Because that's where you place all our inmates that has an incident report. : Yeah. : So, like this, he's coming back to Nine South, (Indiscernible *01:31:40). : Okay. So then, when we see this, inmate Fernandez at 3:15 p.m., that same day, placed on dry cell from ZA. : Yeah. : Is that the time he should have been -? : Yes. : All right. So, at 3:15 is the time that he should have actually been, then, placed - keyed out of the SHU? : Yes. : Okay. : Unless they was putting him on dry cell in SHU. : Well, this one says dry cell from ZA. : Yeah. : So, this is when he was - . So, here. So, I mean -. EFTA00113310 EFTA00113311 EFTA00113312 Because again, in our mind, the count slips are inaccurate. You were going based upon what was said on the, you know, on the E1. And their count slips were matching that E1. So, for me, I'm still very confused on when that 9S+1 on the R&D, and when the plus one on the ZA count slips were actually done. I know you're saying that you believe that they were done at the time of the 10:00 p.m. count, but being that it doesn't look like it was appeared to have been caught until after the - or during - the 12:00 a.m. count, I'm just still not convinced of that. So -- EFTA00113313 EFTA00113314 | 129 | 130 | | :--- | :--- | | whatever it is that needs to be modified, or do a supplemental. All right. Any questions for us? | CERTIFICATE | | :--- | :--- | | : No, sir. | I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General in the matter of: | | : No? All right. Well, we can't thank you enough for your time. | Interview of | | : Mm-hmm. Thank you, too. | Brianna Rose Burton, Transcriber | | : All right. | Appreciate you. God Bless you. I'm going to turn the recorder off now. It is certainly 4:19 p.m. This is Senior Special Agent with DOJ/OIG, and I'm turning off the recorder. | EFTA00113315