SWORN STATEMENT DIGITALLY RECORDED OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AUGUST 4, 2021 RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES 28632 Roadside Drive, Suite 285 Agoura Hills, CA 91301 Phone: (818) 431-5800 EFTA00112450 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112451 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112452 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 4 Facilities manager. MCC, New York. BOP. N-O-B-I-L-E. MR. : Thank you, sir. This is an official investigation into the death of inmate Jeffrey Epstein, and the surrounding circumstances, and you are being asked to voluntarily provide answers to our questions. Will you agree to a voluntary interview with the DOJ/OIG? MR. : Thank you, sir. This is the United States Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General, Warnings and Assurances to Employee Requested to Provide Information on a Voluntary Basis. "You are being asked to provide information as part of an investigation being conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978, as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure, or security failure." I'm sorry, "and EFTA00112453 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 5 security failure. This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do not have to answer questions. No disciplinary action will be taken against you if you choose not to answer questions. Any statements you furnish may be used as evidence in any future criminal proceedings, or agency disciplinary proceedings, or both.” Then there’s a waiver section, saying, "I understand the Warnings and Assurances stated above and I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. No promises or threats have been made to me, and no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me.” And there’s an employee signature. If you want to take a look, and you agree, you can sign right there. Then, there’s employee name, where you can just print your name, then I will fill out the rest. Thank you, Mr. , for printing and signing your name. MR. : No problem. The time? MR. : Yeah, I can put that. So, thank you, and also for dating it, 8/4/2021. I will put the time at 2:20 p.m. And the place is MMC New York. And I'm EFTA00112454 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112455 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112456 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112457 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112458 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112459 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112460 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112461 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 13 EFTA00112462 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112463 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112464 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112465 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 17 such a blur right now, with everything. But knowing me, I probably did ask, and that’s because there was a camera project that was in play already. MR. : And when I came here, the big focus was heating and electric, due to everything that happened at another institution. So, when I got here, all my focus was that stuff. And as things started getting better on the stuff that I was looking at, to take care of, which is the heating and the cooling, and the lights for the population, then I would work, too, some other things. And start getting those things working. MR. : So, the cameras was on a list, but just down the list? MR. : Was. It was - I think in 2018, they had a camera project started - and it was in the process of bidding for materials and stuff like that. MR. : So, when you say "the process," you just mean, like, no cameras were being replaced as of yet, you were talking about, like, just getting that process rolling EFTA00112466 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112467 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112468 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112469 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 21 EFTA00112470 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112471 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 23 EFTA00112472 EFTA00112473 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 25 EFTA00112474 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 26 EFTA00112475 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112476 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112477 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 29 EFTA00112478 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112479 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 31 EFTA00112480 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 32 EFTA00112481 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 33 EFTA00112482 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 34 EFTA00112483 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 35 EFTA00112484 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 36 EFTA00112485 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112486 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 38 MR. : So, we had a new system put in, then that got taken. We had a new system put in, and corrective action from that point is, we daily, on the weekdays, the only time when I'm here, or my general foreman, we look at every camera, make sure they're all up and running. I check each recorder and make sure the recorder is actually running. After that, I'll send an email out to the full exec staff, SIS. Full exec staff and SIS, comtechs, that all cameras are working, or whatever camera is not working. EFTA00112487 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 39 EFTA00112488 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112489 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112490 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 42 EFTA00112491 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 43 EFTA00112492 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 44 EFTA00112493 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 45 EFTA00112494 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 46 EFTA00112495 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 47 EFTA00112496 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 48 EFTA00112497 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112498 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112499 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112500 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112501 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 53 EFTA00112502 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 54 know, unless the lieutenant was looking, they could see if it’s a blurry camera, you know, (Indiscernible *00:36:26). MR. : And when I say you need to replace them, I'm talking about specifically not recording. So, my understanding is, also, you could - looking at the screen, everything was live monitoring, but nothing was recording. MR. Correct. So, and I can explain that to you. So, back in the day, some of them still, right now, we’re still in the process of changing everything over. So, a camera would go to a multi-plexer. That’s not a recording device. So, that’s a device that splits multiple cameras into multiple images. Then from there, it would go to - then it would go out, and into the recorder. So, yes, you would never know - sitting in the lieutenant’s office, or in control, because that’s where our multi-monitors are - you would never know that a camera was down. MR. : How would you know that a camera wasn't recording? MR. : You would have to go into NICE - that's the computer system - every day, EFTA00112503 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 55 EFTA00112504 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 56 EFTA00112505 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112506 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 58 EFTA00112507 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112508 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 60 EFTA00112509 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112510 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112511 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 63 house. Part was the contractor was going to come. So, the original thing was, prior to August, was - in the (Indiscernible *00:42:52) - was, we were going to run all the wires to every location, and then, the contractor, SIGNET, was going to come and install the cameras. MR. : Okay. Cool. I guess, can we just add to this, then, any kind of, like, when has solicitation went out, and what, you know, when that was awarded? Because this is something - again - the higher ups are wanting to know, you know, who knows? Was there a system in place to get something? Did senior management know? Who knew and when? These are all those questions that we’re getting, as far as, like -- EFTA00112512 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 64 EFTA00112513 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 65 this, and then you wanted to do this, and the cameras were kind of, like, down the road? MR. : So, prior to August 10th, obviously, it became a priority. Prior to August 10th, what was the plan for getting a new camera system? MR. : At that time, I don’t even think we had all the wires and stuff yet. I don’t know when we got all that, but it did take a while. But once we got it, that’s when we started working on it. MR. : Okay. Now, were new wiring and stuff being - were they started at all, replacing cameras, and things like that, prior to August 10th? EFTA00112514 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112515 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 67 EFTA00112516 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112517 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 69 EFTA00112518 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112519 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112520 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112521 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 73 EFTA00112522 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 74 EFTA00112523 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112524 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 76 MR. : -- and you put a work order, or that person, if it’s your office, you would put the work order in, or your department, you would have someone that put a work order in. What I'm saying is, if a hard drive goes down, nine out of ten, the comtechs, whoever it is, will change it, and a work order is never going to get put in. We would never know. Even though we should because I should be accounting for that item, dollar-wise. So, we know what we’re spending, we know there’s time to the person, and there’s money, cost to that job. MR. : Okay. MR. : To understand where our time is, and money. As much as I enforce it, it does, it gets hectic and people forget, or just don’t do it. And me, as a supervisor, have to stay on top of them, to keep on reminding them to do that. We have gotten much, much, much better on that. But a camera going down, especially now that I do it on emails and everything, it’s easier to track, because every day, I'm watching it. MR. : The last question. As far as EFTA00112525 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 77 EFTA00112526 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 78 EFTA00112527 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112528 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112529 EFTA00112530 EFTA00112531 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE EFTA00112532 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 84 *00:58:30). It took more time than we had anticipated. It’s 3:16 p.m., Wednesday, August 4th, 2021. This is Senior Special Agent , and I'm turning off the recorder. EFTA00112533 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 85 CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings before the Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General in the matter of: Brianna Rose Burton, Transcriber EFTA00112534