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To: "ROBERT C. JOSEFSBERG"

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## Subject: RE: Epstein victims

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:13:16 +0000

## Bob,

As an update, Judge Berman has scheduled a conference regarding the dismissal of the indictment in light of Epstein's death for Tuesday, August 27th at 10:30am in Courtroom 17B of the 500 Pearl Street courthouse. The order scheduling the conference indicated that Judge Berman will allow victims to be heard—either directly or through their counsel during the proceeding. If any of your clients would like to attend the conference but cannot afford the travel costs, our office's victim witness coordinator 11 ) can provide assistance in arranging travel. They are certainly not required to attend, but we wanted to let you know that the option is available. Feel free to give me a call if you have any questions or would like to discuss. Thanks,

## From: ROBERT C. JOSEFSBERG

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Subject: Re: Epstein victims

- Thank you for your informative email/invitation. We will attempt to contact each of our clients re your offer. Thank you for this offer of counseling, and for your dedication to the entire bizarre situation. Bob Robert C. Josefsberg, Esq. Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2019, at 1:18 PM, > wrote:

## Bob,

We've discussed victim resources before, but I wanted to follow up as a reminder to say that if any of your clients would like counseling or other victim services, please let them know that they are encouraged to contact the case agent on this case, who can put them in touch with victim services at FBI. The agent is Special Agent and her phone number is We recognize that this is a complicated and stressful time for victims, so we wanted to remind you that resources are available.

Our team is always available if issues come up, so please feel free to give us a call. Thanks,

Assistant United States Attorney Southern District of New York





### Hi=,

The FBI is aware of 1 or 2 victims who indicated they could not come on short notice, but does not recall which victims they were. There were other victims who decided not to come but cited other reasons, such as scheduling issues or aversion to press exposure. USAO is not aware of victims who raised scheduling issues. Of course, that doesn't mean they didn't have them, just that no one recalls anyone affirmatively raising them beyond the 1 or 2.

I also now know that, including victims whose known counsel we contacted as opposed to directly, the number who were told about the hearing is at least 50, as opposed to 39. I am still working on whether this number of 50 includes all of the identified Florida victims.

17 is the total number of victims who either spoke or provided written submissions.

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Thank you for this information. It is very helpful but we need a little more clarity. Can you confirm with the VW coordinators (USAO and FBI), prosecutors, and agents whether any victims complained about not being able to participate in the SDNY hearing? Can you also confirm whether the 39 contacted victims include all of the identified Florida victims? In addition to the 17 victims that spoke directly or through counsel, did any victims submit letters to the court in their absence?

Petitioner's counsel has alleged that DOJ, specifically SDNY, possesses information that some of the Epstein victims were unable to attend the SDNY hearing because they did not have sufficient notice to travel to NY. They believe this information is material to the subjects currently being litigated in the 11th Circuit. We need to pin this information down so it can be addressed in the government's response which is due on 10/31.

Again, we apologize for the fire drill but this issue was just raised within the last 48 hours. If you can provide this information before noon tomorrow it will be greatly appreciated.

From: (USANYS) Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 4:34 PM To: • (ODAG)ca

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Subject: RE: Epstein Victim Impact Statements

### Hi

We reached out to at least 39 victims, either directly or through attorneys. The number could be higher, but that is the best as I can confirm today.

At least 17 victims attended the hearing because that is the number that spoke, either directly or through counsel. We believe there may have been additional who were present but did not speak, based on what their attorneys said.

We are not aware of victims who complained about not having an opportunity, but I'd be hesitant to make a categorical statement about that, as its possible I am missing something or the Bureau heard any complaints.

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Thanks, . If you know of any victims that complained about not having an opportunity to speak in court or to submit a written letter, that information would be helpful as well.

### Thanks

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Hi - I will try to figure out the rough numbers for you. (1) and (2) should be doable, but I am not sure about (3).

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The Petitioner in the Epstein CVRA case has filed an appeal to the 11th Circuit. One of their issues is the District Court's refusal to hold a hearing allowing the Epstein victims to "have their day in court." The Court's ruling is, in part, on the basis that a hearing held in SDNY satisfied this request. The Petitioner has alleged that not all of the Epstein victims who wanted to speak were able to do so at the New York hearing because they did not have sufficient notice and were unable to travel to NY.

Can your office provide us some details about the following: 1) how many victims were contacted about making a victim impact statement; 2) how many victims were able to travel and make an in-person victim impact statement; and 3) how many victims indicated they wanted to make a victim impact statement but were unable to do so given the notice/timing of the hearing?

Please provide as much of this information as possible today. I'm very sorry for the quick turnaround but the Department's response to the mandamus petition is due tomorrow.

I really appreciate your assistance.

National Coordinator for Child Exploitation Prevention & Interdiction Office of the De tut Attorney General Direct: